UKC

Hi.

The title poses the question I have. Looking to take new dog, Kelp, out on short trek. How far, over forest roads, could a pup do? She's 13 weeks old and weighs nearly 8kg (long legs and daft floppy ears).

Ta

In reply to Flinticus:

Iirc you'll still be in the 20 minutes (or at least not much more) walk period - I wouldn't push this too far as it really can stuff up growing joints, as far as I understand.

In reply to Flinticus:

Your post is meaningless without a picture of the aforementioned floppy ears, by the way...

In reply to Flinticus:
Short walks, very short walks for such a cute iccle puppy.

Twenty minutes and maybe a bit longer otherwise you will tire the poor thing out and harm its growth. The thing about puppies is that they will walk, and walk and walk just to be by your side.

And Tall Clare is correct.

PICTURES, please.

In reply to Flinticus:

Might I suggest that defining BC would be of far more use than letting people know it's name!

Black Cat??
Brown Cow??
Boarder Collie??

In reply to Removed User:

Can't think of a photo category the UKC dictators would permit it be posted under?!

In reply to Indy:





Perhaps the word 'dog' in the op was a clue?

In reply to Flinticus:

most puppies will push on and walk much further than is good for their young joints etc.. so don't judge the distance by the dogs (or your) enthusiasm.

In reply to Flinticus:

Yeah I'd certainly not go over the hour..

But I was with a 4 month old last month who did 11 miles in the mountains over a two day hike, he got ill the next week with a bacterial infection in his gut, he probably over did it. His paws also cut up as they were so soft still, but being a collie he didn't give a shit..

In reply to Indy:


youtube.com/watch?v=0leFK8XiWIM&

In reply to BigBrother:

The word "dog" still doesn't tell me what BC is.

Absolutely no blinkin idea at all.....
Mind you, I did like that cute white dog that won Crufts yesterday and was on Breakfast TV this morning

In reply to Babika:
Like Indy you thought that dog may refer to 'brown cow' or 'black cat'?

In reply to BigBrother:

Well, to be honest, I only clicked on the thread because I thought someone was asking about a toddler with startling walking skills and I was vaguely interested. There is no dog in the thread title so how would I know its a dog?

Then I read comments and realised its a dog - but still no idea what.

Just pure snobbishness really - "if you don't know what this code means you can't join in the thread".

In reply to Babika:

Snobbishness? Did I not pick up on the humour you were intending there? Forum postings can be like that.

In reply to Flinticus:

A rough rule of thumb is 5 minutes for every month until a year old when unlimited. The reason is that overexercise damages the growing bones and leads to arthritis in later life

In reply to The Lemming:

Thanks: may have to put the bothy trip off for a few more months!

However, tiring the 'poor thing*' out would be one of the aims. Not harming its growth (just to make that clear...)


*hyperactive squiggle of limbs

In reply to Flinticus:

One thing we should have done much more of when our pointer was a puppy was maximising training as a way of using up (mental) energy - I think there's a theory that something like half an hour of brain-work equals an hour of walking. Might be worth a try (says the woman who's vowed never to have another puppy...)

In reply to Flinticus:

Never had a Border Collie pup. Mine have always been rescue dogs from the Border Collie and Sheep Dog Rescue Society aged 6-9 months. My current one, who is sixteen and half years and still up for a short walk, was like an uncoordinated ball of fluff with very little muscle tone. Took it easy with him and built walk distance up over a six month period. In his prime he’d come out for 3 hour runs with me, have a short rest, and be ready to go again within a couple of hours.

Any photos?

In reply to Removed User:

The issue is that all trainer say to limit your training sessions to a few minutes, otherwise the dog is no longer paying attention and you are simply teaching them to ignore your commands!

In reply to Flinticus:

A good point.

In reply to Flinticus:

JimR is right. and your beautiful pup should be on a lead for the first six months. He'll learn that you are his passport to good times outside. When he's six months old, you could walk him for thirty minutes but far better to break it up into two or three walks. He and his joints will thank you for this when he is ten years old and still running about like a pup, instead of you spending fortunes on metacam or some other medication.

Great dogs but very inquisitive and energetic.

Tom (on our third border collie).

In reply to Babika:


Nonsense. It just weeds out the people who don't have anything useful to contribute. Well, it should...

In reply to BigBrother:


Bearded Collie.

Bluetick Coonhound.

In reply to Chris Harris:

Brilliant Companion?

In reply to Flinticus:

Short walks. Having said that, our Staffy pup did a weekend in the lake district at 3 months with a nice 5/6 mile walk over a small fell and back. He slept well after but hopefully didn't do him too much harm

In reply to the abmmc:

I really would not have a dog on the lead all the time when out. 3-6 months is when you do most of the training, most of the recall work.. by 6 months the dog can be fully trained.

In reply to Removed User:


That's what I said 18 months ago when we acquired the reincarnation of Attila the Hun in malinois form. But now we're about to do it again in a few months time (GSD/husky cross). Which should be fun....

In reply to Removed User:


No dog's floppy ears are going to beat your dog's floppy ears!

In reply to Yanis Nayu:

I've just attempted to upload a picture of her floppyness from the Lake District yesterday - will report back if it's approved...

In reply to Chris Harris:

Boxer/Bloodhound/Bull Mastiff/Bull Terrier/Bulldog/Briard/Bichon Friese/Bernese/Basset Hound/Belgian Malinois/Beagle/Borzoi Cross

or anything beginning with B Cross.

In answer to the OP. I'm sure your LL will have several IBs and PRMs which will be of help.

PS. Envious, sounds like a great dog.

In reply to Removed User:


Cool!

In reply to the abmmc:

Agree with the lead, do not let it free run for first 6 months...you'll never get it back*

*Without hard work

I learnt the hard way!

In reply to Removed User:

Doing my best. I've submitted one as a profile pic but the authorities are scrutinising it to make sure it conforms (I may need to work on it)

In reply to Yanis Nayu:

Indoors, she sleeps under duvets as she's a wimp. On the hill, she keeps warm by running at least three times as far as us...

In reply to Flinticus:

Pleased to see you have taken up another one. As others have said take it easy for the first year.

Have fun.

Steve

In reply to Removed User:



Little Lover?

Irritable Bowels?

Public Relations Manager?

In reply to greylag: I disagree, I think young pups are often less confident and recall well. We started Winston's recall as soon as he could walk. His recall was excellent until he was 9 months old, when he hit his teenage stage and started only recalling if there was nothing more interesting to do and we had to start again from scratch.

In reply to Indy:


Benedict Cumberbatch?

In reply to ceri:

I say six months but only as a rule of thumb and at the very least. I have a spaniel that was lined up to be a working dog, he had free reign as a pup <9 mnths and it wasnt until he was two that I was confident and 'in control' of him.

A trained dog is a happier dog and never ever rush a dogs training.

Oh and if you can avoid springers

In reply to Removed User:

That sounds like a nice/fun life to have. In my next life I want to be a well loved family dog, the same wish as Alison Hargreaves, when asked.

On a walking holiday we were stumped on how to make it happen - only got as far as thinking 'Wanna be a dog, wanna be a dog, wanna be a dog,' when we have our last moments eventually.

In reply to Removed User:
Btw, did you ever find a way of reading that research article about marketing an area? I thought it sounded quite interesting and wouldn't mind a read - if that's doable?

I'm thinking of doing something related to community development somewhere along the line, so it could possibly be relevant, or helpful rather.

Thanks.

In reply to Flinticus:

RoadrunnerS is right, I was talking about the pup being on the lead until the owner is sure that recall is solid and good. Five minutes of training sessions is also right, and this can be done at home, in the garden or out on walks, but best done initially in a quiet place with no distractions. Most collies are desperate to learn and have things to do so most of them should be 95% trained by 6 months or so. Again, please don't overwalk the pup because problems will come later, and earlier than they should. 5 minutes controlled walking for each day, per month of dog's age is a really good thing to stick with.

enjoy your puppy!

Tom

In reply to Flinticus:




You got a collie, that's what you signed up for :p

In reply to Flinticus:

Not answering your OP, but thought I'd just congratulate you on your recent addition to the family. Good news and best of luck with the pup!