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Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
I have been away from climbing for ages! Got so bored of hauling all my gear to the Avon Gorge of a spot of lonely climbing, I thought it couldn't get better!

Jumping out an airplane on my RAPS course at Langar, l realzed that I didn't get the thrill I did on the gorge. So climbing seems better than jumping out planes!

Who agress?

 graeme jackson 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:

> Who agrees?

I don't suppose there's many on here that have done both so I doubt if you'll get enough replies to form a valid survey.

(just watch, There's probably loads of skydiving climbers on here now, just to prove me wrong)

 u1jd 21 Aug 2006
In reply to graeme jackson: Done a tandam jump, was exciting and quite a buzz but i dont know, its so different and its over so quick, the initial jump was great and the free fall was good but gearing up to land was just a bore, and then it was over, there was no looking back and thinking wow, that last move... or the crux was....

I think you are right to come back to climbing, however i think i will do another jump at some point in my life
 Wangy 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:

Sky diving was a big thrill, but its not much of a sport really.

Wangy
 Petzl 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:

I used to skydive at Langar.

Both have their own thrills - I really miss jumping, but still climb.

In the end, I stopped jumping due to cost, location and time - I'd still be skydiving if it wasn't so expensive and I lived near to a drop zone!
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Wangy:

Funny that, Arch thousand, two thousand, reach thousand, pull thousand! Then your 'flying'

In climbing its a bit like 'shit, f*ck, f*ck, bollocks, god that was hard...!'

What a difference!
 Liam M 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens: The first few jumps I did were great, but the arse is trying to progress in skydiving in this country - the weather is too unreliable for novices. Having spent hours staring at a windsock, I decided to try something else, hence started climbing.

At least with climbing you can start easily and relatively cheaply, and can find something related to it to do when the weather turns less favourable. And it's feels a bit more physical and focussed so the sense of achievement is somewhat better. Though I'm not sure it ever really has that same adrenalin rush as the first few seconds before and after you launch yourself through the door.

Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Petzl:

I'd probably follow you! I live in Bristol- 5 hour drive in my Landy. The cost for the gear is the same I paid for the 90 a few years back! And the weather [Grrrrrrr!]
Craig_M 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:

I used to climb with an Australian lad who'd done quite a lot of skydiving. He used to say that you've never truly had an adrenaline rush until you've had to use your reserve 'chute.
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Liam M:

So did you manage to get through the course? Was it AFF or RAPS?
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Craig_M:

I only had that adrenaline rush when the instructor got pissy with me for not following his orders, which made me 'crash' [sorry Tony!]
 Skyfall 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Craig_M:

> He used to say that you've never truly had an adrenaline rush until you've had to use your reserve 'chute.

As my father would probably say if he weren't so annoyingly humble about the whole thing, try jumping without a reserve 'chute into a hail of small arms fire and 88mm flak. I imagine that would be moderately exciting.
Craig_M 21 Aug 2006
In reply to JonC:

Well, yes. Not sure it would ever catch on as a sport though.
 Petzl 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Craig_M:
> I used to climb with an Australian lad who'd done quite a lot of skydiving. He used to say that you've never truly had an adrenaline rush until you've had to use your reserve 'chute.

One of the instructors at Langar used to pack a failure every 13th jump and get his reserve out.

He was also known to jump displays with 3 rigs - 1 packed to fail to worry the crowd, 1 to actually use and 1 reserve just in case.
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Petzl:

One of the instructors at Langar used to pack a failure every 13th jump and get his reserve out.

You joking? I'll have to ask him to pack mine next, whats his name?
Removed User 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Liam M:
> (In reply to Ed Stevens) The first few jumps I did were great, but the arse is trying to progress in skydiving in this country - the weather is too unreliable for novices. Having spent hours staring at a windsock, I decided to try something else, hence started climbing.
>
> At least with climbing you can start easily and relatively cheaply, and can find something related to it to do when the weather turns less favourable. And it's feels a bit more physical and focussed so the sense of achievement is somewhat better. Though I'm not sure it ever really has that same adrenalin rush as the first few seconds before and after you launch yourself through the door.

I agree, i got to 15 sec freefall, 20 jumps, but gave up after spending 6 days in a row at a drop zone without getting a single jump. Just when you thought you would be on the next lift the cloud came in/wind got up/Air traffic control restriction/problem with the plane happened(delete as appropriate)
 Davvers 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:
I've climbed loads this summer and really enjoy it. I haven't jumped at all this year, due to cost and time. climbing and jumping both require good weather and time! I've just got the stage with jumping where I can jump with others and it's an absolute hoot!

Climbing and skydiving give you different thrills. Skydiving takes a longer time to become 'independent' though. If you can keep both up, then eventually you'll be able to big wall climb and then basejump off the top !
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Removed User:

Oh yeah, have you seen the DVDs? They spent f*cking ages watching the formations, in slow action, over and over!

Makes you feel like pissing them off, 'whos that Prick?'
 freerangecat 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:

I did a tandem skydive on my gap year in NZ, and I have to agree with you, it was fun, but it didn't give me the 'buzz' that I was expecting. Given the choice I'd rather go climbing too.

Cat
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Davvers:

That is just what I want, basejumping. I am put off by the cost of the training and the gear
OP Anonymous 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:
i've got a skydiving license but i don't really jump anymore. i prefer climbing overall (it is more varied) but i don't think there is anything that comes close to flying around a blue sky (with a few fluffy cloud) with other jumpers -it's a magical experience.

so climbing overall but skydiving(multiway, not solo) for a one off hit.
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Anonymous:

Hey stranger. What license do you have then? Formations can be good? I'll never get there at this rate [cost, time, location!]
 220bpm 21 Aug 2006
In reply to graeme jackson:

I qualified to solo skydive after three days on an AFF course in the Czech Republic.

Too right its a massive rush at exit time, and relative work with others is a massively fun learning curve, but at no time did I ever feel it gave as much back to me as climbing does.

And that includes being sh!te at climbing and also having to deploy the emergency 'chute on my 27th jump....

 220bpm 21 Aug 2006
In reply to 220bpm:

PS - RAPS is a non-starter. AFF is the way to go.
 Petzl 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:

In terms of thrills, the most memorable skydiving ones for me are:

- first freefall
- qualifying as solo skydiver
- 2-way linked dive exit from a Cessna at 12,000' with solid cloud between 3,000' and 4,000'. Weird feeling sinking into the top of the cloud, watching the raindrops whizzing up my goggles and then the ground emerge out of the gloom below.
- first exit out of a Skyvan - started behind the pilot, waited for everyone else to go and then started running...
- first time I climbed out the door of an Islander and back-flipped off the side.

Climbing has it's highs, but they're different to these!
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to 220bpm:

You got £1500?
Ed Stevens 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Petzl:

Backflip exit? I was on my 2nd jump when one of the nutters did that, put me off my exit - wanted to jump out like that! Wasn't allowed

So is it worth the hassle continuing to solo skydiver [16 jumps]? Got two left out of my 6 jumps course. Continuing jumps are £36, I'll need 10 -£360! Just to get my solo license.
 Liam M 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:
> (In reply to Liam M)
>
> So did you manage to get through the course? Was it AFF or RAPS?

It was a RAPS course, and after spending about every other weekend there for about a year and managing a total of about 6 jumps in that time I gave up bothering, so no I never completed it. Thats what comes of training on a big open windy plain. I've always thought I may go and try and do an AFF course at some point, preferably somewhere with more reliable conditions.
 LMB 21 Aug 2006
In reply to Ed Stevens:
Went skydiving in July and was surprisingly disappointed. Climbing, in my opinion, gives you much more of a buzz. I think if in skydiving, the freefall bit was prolonged then it could be as good as climbing.
Ed Stevens 22 Aug 2006
In reply to LMB:

Might be, it only last s for about 3 minutes [if your at 3500ft] at the cost of £36!
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