UKC

I know some of people write down long detailed beta narratives for routes and even for boulder problems. I don't routinely but have on a couple of occasions in response to messages asking for beta. A few people have archives of crazily detailed descriptions for many routes.

I ask people for beta if they are at the crag when I'm trying to climb something. I also like looking at the videos linked to routes and boulder problems on UKC logbooks.

I was thinking it might be handy if text files with written beta descriptions were also linked to routes on UKC. Would anyone else find those of interest?

I guess a lot of people use the UKC Logbooks for this but they’d need to have their logbook set to public which some might not want.

Maybe in addition to “Feedback” there could be a “Beta” section for each route?

You can link videos to the route on logbooks even if you don't have an (active) logbook. I've linked videos but have never made an actual logbook entry. 

I was imagining something where, just like how you click on the video and see a video, you would click on a text file and see a page (or more!) of text.

If pdf files were supported, I guess people could even include diagrams, topos etc.

I do this for routes I can't get in a session. Take a photo or two as I leave and draw it that evening. Only problem I can see is one of notation. I have little symbols for say a side pull. You looking at it might not help you! I have sometimes thought of printing the photo and annotating that. Anyone do this?

Someone should re-invent peakbouldering.info ?!

If I've got any specific details I want to remember for a future go, I note it on a bit of paper and put it in the relevant page in the guidebook. Can doodle gear placements etc.

I do it a lot and find it really helpful, even for some long, indoor routes. The one below is for one of my long-standing, outdoor projects but they do usually have some annotation if the relevant information isn't obvious from the graphics alone.

Th8nk thats just an age thing chris ! I recommend a trail of breadcrumbs to get back to the car as well 😀 

Have I understood correctly that you use red for the right hand and green for the left hand? That's appalling!!

Err....yes, that's correct.

Don't tell me you use red for left and green for right?!

Yeah but I also have to put a sign in the car saying Chris so I get the right one😂.

Like it. I've found that looking at it the night before I go back seems to help imprint the sequences. I don't have to waste energy relearning. Each to their own I guess.

I do find it very useful, particularly if it's a route that you don't get on regularly. Having said that, I was on this route the other day for the first time in several weeks and figured out some quite different beta after move #14. So I'll need to update the diagram and ingrain it in my mind for next time!