UKC

any one done both?
is london wall much harder/easier than the mau mau

In reply to mark s: This is one for Geraldine, she has done both of them more times than anyone else in the country.

In reply to Al Evans: we did mau mau yesterday thought it was one of the best routes we had ever done,not too hard either.we fancy a crack at london wall soon but wondered how they compare

In reply to mark s:
London Wall is two full grades harder - and I know what grade they both get!

Chris

In reply to mark s: given up on the white stuff then?

In reply to mark s:

I agree with Chris. London Wall two grades harder

In reply to mark s: What did you reckon to Ride the Wild surf ?
Poetry Pink was a corker, glad I was only seconding.

In reply to Chris Craggs: I suspect with no authority, that London Wall is a lot harder than the Mau Mau. I'll try and get Geraldine to answer this.

In reply to Mark Lloyd: Get back to work Lloydy, layabout git

In reply to Mark Lloyd: brill,going back in a few more weeks after a bit more of the white stuff.

thanks chris will give it a go then.

In reply to Herman Gelmet: I suppose this is research for your dissertation ? Bloody students.
Or is it jizzy rascal himself, Dan the acapuncture man.

In reply to Al Evans: Yer London Wall is much harder than the Mau Mau. Gear is excellent in both. Two of my favourite routes which I have done several times.London Wall has a powerful start and a thin finish where it is normally hard to stop and put gear in.

In reply to mark s:

I think the grades indicate the difference? MM v low end E4 LW high E5.

In reply to Yorkspud: Where is MM?

In reply to richard bradley @ work:

Llanberis slate

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In reply to richard bradley @ work:

Sorry, that should have read TMM

In reply to Yorkspud: I wasn't being facetious!

In reply to richard bradley @ work:

Sorry - where is The Mau Mau in the quarries you mean? Umm 2 levels up from Rainbow just round the corner from German Schoolgirl I seem to remember. Finger jamming on glass but loads of gear and not that long.

In reply to Geraldine Taylor:

I've twice held the ropes on LW for friends who were halfway decent sport climbers (both had done a few 8a's). One failed on the start and the other decided he wanted more gear about two moves from the top and pumped out putting it in.

On the other hand, if your fingers fit, you make good use of the rest and you are happy to push for the top above bomber gear, then you have every chance of success.

Judging from his profile, Mark S has ability to spare and it's high time he rounded out his climbing CV with classic testpieces like this.

In reply to darkinbad: 'if your fingers fit'

Someone recently told me that both Ron Fawcett and Ben Moon had never managed a clean lead because their fingers were too large.