In reply to cheek to the rock:
> There is 2 VS routes there that just dont feel like VS,s to me.Ive managed to top rope Crooked crack the 4c,but when i had another go at it weeks later i failed.The other Forked crack 4b ive had 3 go's at and only got on the wall once.Is it me or are they both major sand baggers???
A bit of gusto will see you through the former, and a combination of deft footwork and gusto will see you through the latter (and Flywalk).
And after you've done them you can enjoy pointing any budding VS leader at these routes and tell them, "It's bog standard VS" or the like. :o
FWIW I think Throsher is one of the friendlier VS's, so maybe a good one to start with.