In reply to Jonno:
> (In reply to Rob Naylor)
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> You could hardly call the daughter of a former Tory Chancellor 'dangerous lefty'.By the same token you could
> hardly describe LS Lowry or Graham Greene as 'celebrities'.
> Just a broad mix of individuals who see these pointless
> lucky bag bits of tat for the tacky chav badges they really are.
Who called *anyone* a "dangerous lefty"? Only you, as far as I can see. You always seem to be the one who tries to polarise all these types of discussion around "ists and isms". Most other people have individual views on individual topics...sometimes left-leaning, sometimes right-leaning, if you must put labels on them.
All I said was that some of them may well have been exhibiting some kind of inverted snobbery by making it public that they'd been approached and said "no". Not a mention of "dangerous lefties" anywhere.
And of course Lowry and Greene were "celebrities" by any reasonable definition of the word.
> I always thought climbers were supposed to be a bit anarchistic and unconventional...except for Chris Bonnington !
And since the "received wisdom" amongst "Guardianistas" seems to be to sneer at such things, why not be a bit unconventional by applauding an award to someone who deserves it, rather than applauding the inverted snobbery of celebs who publicise that they've turned one down
?
Congratulating someone for getting recognition for something they've done doesn't necessarily imply approval of the awards system itself. You can feel happy for someone that they've been recognised while still feeling that the system of recognition is anachronistic, for example, rather than railing against them for not spitting in Queenie's face during an investiture.