In reply to Olli-C:
> (In reply to Björn Pohl - UKC)
> Point 1: Its strange to here a route being preclaimed as 100% natural when it has bolts in it.
He means natural holds. It's a given that bolts are drilled and are quite acceptable by most.
> Point 2: If the route gets extra quality points for not having chipped or modified holds (which is what i assume he means by 100% natural) then it make me wonder how many US routes are manufactured.
> Confusing
Many hard routes of that grade all over the world, Europe, USA etc have artificial or modified holds. This happens less these days. Jonathan was making the distinction that this particular route has had no hold modification, contrasting to the hard routes at the nearby Hood at Mt. Charleston that is a chipped/drilled fest. I've been to both areas, in fact both, Arrow Canyon and The Hood are covered in the Rockfax guidebook Islands in the Sky (
http://www.rockfax.com/climbing-guides/all/las-vegas-limestone-islands-in-t... )