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 climber_Ken 29 Mar 2024

Anyone know of a reliable local weather forecast for the Dolomites? On a trip there last week we couldn't find one. The local ones were all promotional i.e Full Sun today, when it was cloudy am and rain pm (as forecast by yr.no, BBC and Meteoblue.)

Just interested really as you might expect a local one to be more accurate. The three above proved accurate on our week. A combination of yr.no and Meteoblue proving the best forecast info.

A mountain weather forecast as we are able to get here would be useful.

Also avalanche risk info too?

Post edited at 11:41
 BruceM 29 Mar 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

I just use this:

https://wwwold.arpa.veneto.it/previsioni/en/html/meteo_dolomiti.php

Which I think you have seen locally.

Combined with the general Europe picture from France:

https://www.mountain-forecast.com/weather_maps/France?symbols=mountain.fore...

Good luck.

 beardy mike 29 Mar 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

Fat Map has an interesting avalanche feature which gives you a 3d image of slope angle. We were there recently and found the info on there accurate, including forecasts. 

Other than that there's Arpav as mentioned.

 Jenny C 29 Mar 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

https://www.mountain-forecast.com/subranges/dolomites-1/locations

Found this really useful in the past as it gives a local forecast centered on the peaks. 

(Search Alps, then dolomites)

 planetmarshall 30 Mar 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

The official South Tirol Weather app is super geeky and will tell you everything you could possibly want to know.


 AlanLittle 30 Mar 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

I find the DAV report pretty reliable for the Bavarian Alps, and they do also cover the Dolomites: https://services.alpenverein.de/DAV-Services/Bergwetter/Gardasee-Arco-Trent...

In German, google translate might be ok.

 Frank R. 01 Apr 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

Best is to select the most appropriate and specific forecasting model for the specific area, which is usually the model with the highest grid cell resolution and shortest forecast duration (obviously a long‑term model is less precise than a 24h one, as is one with 30km2 cells compared to 2km2 cells) and check that it has the proper elevation for the place (lots of generic services like Yr's historically sucked at that outside of their own countries scope, with e.g. Yr not showing proper wind speed at summit elevations for Alps).

Yr is in Norway, so they might only use a more generic lower resolution ECMWF outside of that. Or they might have licensed ICON2 as well nowadays (no idea), but it's still important to check what the actual model is used for the location in question on the service you use, as the less precise models obviously don't model the local topography as well, due to lower resolution (supercomputer time is expensive).

Meteoblue by default uses a weighted combination of data from all the other models, but that might not be always that useful for mountaineering. Thankfully, Meteoblue also has a nifty customisable "multimodel" forecast graph showing the other models and also showing the elevation the model's forecast is set at for the location, see the link below for e.g. Brenta.

Windy.com also allows you to select different models and compare them, although it might have less of them.

The best ones for mountains might be ICON2 from Deutscher Wetterdienst for the German/Austrian Alps (and some Dolomites), METEO France's AROME2 in French Alps and Pyrenees, UKMO2 in the UK (no idea). Usually the most detailed ones are by the and for each country you are in – although I'd guess that something like Albanian Meteorological Institute might not have the exact same near‑unlimited computing resources as their German equivalent...

And while you could get the same ICON2 forecast data from Deutscher Wetterdienst I guess, Meteoblue might have it available in a more accessible manner for more places.

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/forecast/multimodel/cima-brenta_italy_...

Disclaimer: I am not a meteorologist. Just interested in it.

For avalanches, EAWS's https://www.avalanches.org has links to all the local avalanche risk forecasts and bulletins made by all its members.

Post edited at 17:25
 planetmarshall 02 Apr 2024
In reply to Frank R.:

South Tyrol Weather use the COSMO-1 forecasting model, an ensemble model of 11 forecasts at 1.1km resolution.

OP climber_Ken 04 Apr 2024
In reply to climber_Ken:

Thanks everyone. Lots for me to go at there. Virtually all of which I did not know about.

A great help.


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