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springfall2008 - on 09 Apr 2018

I saw a TV show a while back where they were saying people who suffer from poor blood flow in their hands or feet (e.g. going numb) can benefit from Viagra (which also improves blood flow). This got me wondering, would the drug help the average climber to be able to grip for longer and not get pumped so soon?

Serious question....

Pursued by a bear - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

Is your average climber male or female? It seems important, given your question.

T.

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d_b on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

Less than serious answer: I have long argued it would be useful to have an extra point of contact for certain jamming cracks...

Now that's out of the way...  A mate of mine with poor circulation always used nifedipine in winter, but had to be careful due to reduced blood pressure.  I don't know whether that would be an issue with the blue pills or not but it's worth checking.

springfall2008 - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to Pursued by a bear:

Not really, it enhances blood flow for both genders, sorry this isn't a joke thread

springfall2008 - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

> Now that's out of the way...  A mate of mine with poor circulation always used nifedipine in winter, but had to be careful due to reduced blood pressure.  I don't know whether that would be an issue with the blue pills or not but it's worth checking.

I'm suspecting as they are about to sell it over the counter it may not be such an issue, assuming we are not talking about high altitude.

d_b on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

He wasn't using it for altitude, just general cold weather.  My understanding is that it increases blood flow, which helps with cold hands and a side effect of that is the pressure reduction which helps with edema at altitude.  I'm no doctor so I can't evaluate it, but that was his justification at the time.

He had a much more relaxed attitude to medication than I do.

robert-hutton on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

> I'm suspecting as they are about to sell it over the counter it may not be such an issue, assuming we are not talking about high altitude.

Big poster in Boots shop window yesterday saying no prescription required.

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john arran - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

I think you may be confusing "get up it" with "get it up".

Easy mistake to make.

buzby - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

Could Viagra enhance climbing performance.

well it certainly enhances my performance, but then im getting on in years. :>))

thebigfriendlymoose - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to buzby:

> Could Viagra enhance climbing performance.

> well it certainly enhances my performance, but then im getting on in years. :>))


It diminishes mine, I can't get my hips close enough to the rock (although, maintaining a third point of contact is easier). 

Seriously though, Viagra was developed as an anti-angina drug so it isn't implausible that it might affect circulation in a beneficial way.  I have met climbers chugging beetroot juice before RPs as it supposedly also affects vasodilation (albeit supposedly through a different, nitrate based mechanism ).

springfall2008 - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to thebigfriendlymoose:

> Seriously though, Viagra was developed as an anti-angina drug so it isn't implausible that it might affect circulation in a beneficial way.  I have met climbers chugging beetroot juice before RPs as it supposedly also affects vasodilation (albeit supposedly through a different, nitrate based mechanism ).

There's articles out there about using it to help with altitude and cold weather, but it would be interesting to know if it gives any performance advantage in normal climbing too.

bouldery bits - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to thebigfriendlymoose:

I drink beetroot juice before long runs. It does seem to make running feel a little easier. May well be a placebo though as I'll believe any old rubbish.

 

Haven't tried Viagra before a long run though...

alx on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

It’s probably one step ahead of beetroot...

Side effects include sudden-onset hearing loss!

 

take! I said take!!!

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Dell on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

Why make climbing harder than it is already? 

stp - on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

Apparently it's possible to cure oneself of Reynauds using the cold exposure techniques of Wim Hof. I met someone who had done just that a few weeks ago. Start with 45s of exposure in a cold lake 3x per week and build up over time to 2.5 mins. The important thing to breathe normally - no sharp intakes of breath.

In terms of not getting pumped cocaine is probably better than Viagra, plus you'll feel more confident, aggressive and less scared. The old fashioned 'hippy' way can work wonders too. Just go climbing and get pumped lots about 3 to 5 times per week.

Stuart en Écosse - on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

Every undercling becomes a hands-off rest.

planetmarshall on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

I'm amazed you got this thread through the spam filter.

Chris Harris - on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:

> Every undercling becomes a hands-off rest.

Possibly lasting several hours. 

Chris Harris - on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

"What's this white stuff all over the crag? Doesn't look like chalk. Feels more like resin, have the French been here?"

Hat Dude on 10 Apr 2018
In reply to springfall2008:

You'd be able to hit any crags where the grading's a bit stiff


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