Rockfax Description
The left-hand crack is short and 'ard. Maybe the same grade as Toy, but sees a lot less attention. Gaining the narrower upper section is especially difficult. If successful it is eyes right! © Rockfax

FA. Joe Brown 1951

Ticklists: Wide Cracks, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Hard Grit history, Ron Fawcetts 100 extremes in a day, Peak Rock/6/ The Emergence of Joe Brown and Don Whillans, Pete's 150 Peak Extremes, WideBoyz Crack School, James' Winter Grit ticklist, UK road to wide crack mastery.

Kirill 24/Sep/17 2nd

Tried to lead but gave up pretty quickly. Clean on second.

with Masaki
James Oakes 23/Sep/17 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Sep/17 Lead β
Hidden 01/Jul/17 Lead
Roland stopps 01/Jul/17 2nd
with Nevil
Stroppy 29/Apr/17 2nd O/S
GeorgeHH 22/Apr/17 2nd
tunnah 22/Apr/17 Lead O/S
CMoore 22/Apr/17 2nd O/S
Tom.Priestley 22/Apr/17 2nd O/S

Nice, in gloves as my hands were shot.

with CMoore, Hinkley Honkley, tunnah
bigdrew 29/Oct/16 Lead rpt
Andy Moles 19/Oct/16 Lead O/S

As a warm-up for Right Eliminate, which did not go well...

with James Oswald
James Oswald 19/Oct/16 2nd O/S

A "warm up" for RE. Hard work but well protected.

with Andy Moles
Neilaw ?/Oct/16 Lead O/S
Sophie Nunn 25/Sep/16 2nd RP

After a failed lead attempt

with Will, Neil W
robblowen 18/Sep/16 2nd dog

Definitely E1 5c, if you are a 1950s plumber!

with Jonny
ashtond6 18/Sep/16 Lead rpt

Felt cruiser today which is good

ferdia 13/Aug/16 Lead O/S
Teappleby 24/May/16 2nd
benkelsey 24/May/16 Lead O/S

Didn't offwidth it. Hot and strange. Didn't climb very well

Flavio 15/May/16 Lead O/S
MichaelGallimore 09/Apr/16 Lead O/S

Felt really difficult, and I was put off by the creaky flake.

with Andy Cmc
WB 25/Mar/16 Lead O/S
markalmack 25/Mar/16 2nd


Rachel Slater 25/Oct/15 Lead G/U

Lost the plot the first time!

Hidden 25/Oct/15 Lead
tim newton 25/Oct/15 2nd rpt
John Higgs 08/Sep/15 Lead dnf
Dan Mckinlay ?/Sep/15 Lead

Nowhere near as hard as Hercules!

islandlynx 30/Aug/15 Lead O/S

Found this tough, but pushed on, maybe the swarm of midges gave me the reason to push on to the top quickly. Gear wise it would have been a lot safer with a bigger cam or two, my grade depends on gear available. i actually moved my one decent size cam mid climb. Technique-wise i didn't jam my legs well. Given it's called 'eliminate' does that mean i shouldn't be using the holds on the face? i did use them for feet in a few places. One of the most 'enjoyable' routes i've done. First offwidth

TomRiddelsdell 30/Aug/15 2nd dog

Tough and exhausting. I really need to learn how to jam efficiently

DavidR 16/Aug/15 Lead dog

One slip at what I think is the crux. Did it afterwards though.

Hidden 29/Jul/15 2nd O/S
TP 18/Jul/15 TR dog
with tim
morganator 17/Jul/15 Lead rpt
with James Hall
soph 28/May/15 Lead rpt
with Maria Pilarski
Fragmod 15/May/15 Lead
Alex@home 11/May/15 2nd rpt
with The Doctor
bigdrew 19/Apr/15 2nd O/S

Climbed surprisingly gracefully, fair few useful face holds..

with Dunc Frish, Ian Milward
philhilo 13/Apr/15 Lead dog

Whoa, totally shut down. New boots, freezing cold, howling gale, and first hard route on grit for donkeys years....those are my excuses!

with Helen E
tradisrad ??/2015 Lead dnf
Andy Peak 1 05/Oct/14 Lead O/S

Nice and not to hard:.)

with Rob stokes, Andrew Deckon
deacondeacon 05/Oct/14 Lead RP

Ground up. Found this well hard. I defo need to get on some more minging offwidths.

soph 05/Oct/14 2nd rpt
with Tony Stone
soph 09/Sep/14 Lead O/S
Wil Treasure 09/Sep/14 2nd
alp79 27/Jul/14 2nd dog

Haha this is hard! I have skinny arms and legs, what am I supposed to jam?! Pulled on gear.

ashtond6 27/Jul/14 Lead rpt

got stuck first time, clean second. A fight!!

Hidden 05/Jun/14 Lead
Matt Cooke 26/May/14 Lead O/S
with Rosh
duncan 18/May/14 Lead rpt
Andy Fielding 18/May/14 2nd
with James Kauntze
Hidden 18/May/14 2nd dog
Alex Hallam 16/May/14 2nd β

After a number of unsuccessful attempts Jonny shot up in one, followed no worries.

with Jonny P
funsized 16/May/14 Lead O/S
with Alex Halllam, Danny Boy
Lenny ?/Apr/14 Lead
with Steve
gazfellows 30/Mar/14 Lead
with Billy
madasten 29/Mar/14 2nd

Brilliant, classic offwidthing. Great fun and highly nackering!

with Gaz
tim newton 09/Mar/14 Lead O/S
phildawson 09/Mar/14 2nd dog
Alex Hallam 16/Feb/14 Lead dnf

Tried to not use the face holds and just swim up the crack with varying degrees of unsuccessfulness. Will be back with less ethics and more experience... Probably.

nimajneb ?/Feb/14 Lead
Hidden ??/2014 -
crossleysm ??/2014 Lead O/S
admackie 04/Dec/13 Lead dog

oh my god

Jonathan Hall 23/Nov/13 2nd

Hardish and wet, my thanks go to Mark for ruining the 2nd by jamming one of his cams in.

disturbed_one51 23/Nov/13 Lead

Great fun as the crack was sopping wet and green. The face holds help greatly. I was stupid enough to try to put a size 6 in the upper crack and got it thoroughly stuck on the lip and it made it a bugger to get over as it was right where my knee needed to be. It is a good leveller.

with Wee man
robgixer 29/Sep/13 2nd
masa-alpin 29/Sep/13 Lead dog

3-4 falls. Failed to spot any face hold in my first go... Hard nonetheless!

with Rob G
fabricio 22/Aug/13 2nd
with Shaun
Graeme Hammond 28/Apr/13 Lead O/S
with Jim
dannyboy83 14/Oct/12 Lead O/S
with Floris
manwithacam 22/Sep/12 Lead

Delighted to get up this. I'll give myself a proper gritstone E1 tick. Committing and scary but not massively hard I guess. At least it is over quickly.

with Mark
Jim Slater 26/Aug/12 Lead dog
tgeh 03/Aug/12 2nd O/S
with dan geh
Dan Geh 03/Aug/12 Lead O/S

Had to fight to get this bugger! Way harder than Elder crack and Hercules. The whole thing was rather green and dirty which added to the fun/struggle. Right eliminate next time?

Hidden 18/Jun/12 2nd
Ricky Rocks 06/May/12 2nd O/S
Brown 03/May/12 Lead
with Ryan
monsteratt 10/Mar/12 Lead dnf

Tricky couldn't commit to moving leg out of crack to get over bulge.

with Nick Whimster
nickwhimster 10/Mar/12 Lead dnf
Tony Kartawick ??/2012 -
Martin Haworth 19/Nov/11 Lead dnf

Couldn,t suss out how to do this, must go back sometime.

with Andy
mark20 23/Oct/11 Lead O/S
llamaglama 09/Jul/11 2nd
with Jam
Hidden 09/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Glenn Sutcliffe 03/Jul/11 -
with Pete Cresswell
Hidden 14/Jun/11 Lead rpt
belay bunny turned bad 14/Jun/11 2nd rpt
with loundsy
Hidden 12/Jun/11 2nd O/S
belay bunny turned bad 12/Jun/11 Lead dog
with loundsy
Hidden 12/Jun/11 Lead rpt
Mr. K 19/May/11 Lead dnf

Fell off moving to the crimp out of the upper offwidth.

Mr. K 19/May/11 2nd dog
highlux 08/Mar/11 Lead O/S

Quality route. Lots of fun.

with Pete Hart
PeteH 08/Mar/11 2nd O/S

Fantastic moves, bomber gear.

with Mark Watson, Alex, Chris Fox
bigie bob 01/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 22/Jan/11 2nd
Kevster 10/Oct/10 2nd
FlorianCastagne 26/Sep/10 Lead β
with Nathan Rosenfeld
Pown 22/Sep/10 2nd O/S
Jim Slater 17/Sep/10 2nd O/S
tom.ireson 06/Sep/10 Lead dnf

Wore shorts, bad idea! got totally spanked on the section above the chockstone as well and didnt really have enough big gear. Definitely a struggle but will go back for it!

Dave Musgrove Jnr 27/Mar/10 2nd
with Rich Cross
Hidden 01/Jan/10 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
TonyF ??/2010 -
Seymore Butt ??/2010 -
belay bunny turned bad 29/Oct/09 2nd
with Debbie, loundsy
Hidden 28/Oct/09 Lead O/S
Rich Guest 28/Oct/09 Lead O/S

Surprisingly secure actually. Lots of outer holds and fair security of in crack thrutching. Bit pumpy though

dan gibson 18/Oct/09 Lead O/S
with michael porter
Tony Little 26/Sep/09 Lead rpt
with Ed Brown
Dave Turnbull, BMC 19/Sep/09 2nd

Led 1990s

with Richard Bissel
Boy ?/Sep/09 -
with Ben Heason
Hidden 10/Jun/09 2nd
Rob Davies 27/Apr/09 2nd dog

Determination from Angus, but it wasn't stylish

with Angus McLean
Hidden 12/Oct/08 Lead O/S
Mr Wild 28/Sep/08 Lead dnf
with Greg
gregoritos 28/Sep/08 Lead O/S
with Mr Wild
Toby Dunn ?/Aug/08 Solo
Nicos 09/Apr/08 Lead O/S
SteveM 10/Feb/08 Lead dog

Rested at the crux getting into the "narrow" section

with Kat
kitkat78 10/Feb/08 2nd dog
with SteveM
joe larner 17/Nov/07 2nd
Andrew Sloan 23/Sep/07 TR dog
with Richard
DavidEvans 21/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with R Smitton
beardy mike ??/2007 -
John Marsland 07/Oct/06 TR dog
goi.ashmore 07/Oct/06 Lead RP

Total Horrorshow!

with John Marsland
SR1970 ?/Aug/06 Lead O/S
Stig 03/Mar/06 TR dog
with Chris
chrishedgehog 01/Mar/06 TR

Viciously cold day - Yosemite training

with James
Martin Cooper ??/2006 Lead O/S
shoulders 18/Sep/05 Lead
UndercoverElephant ??/2005 Lead O/S

'Orrible wrong sized cruel grippathon. If that's the bag you're into, come and tuck in. Caused me to get a bigger cam soon as I was down.

ukb & bmc shark 30/Aug/04 Lead O/S
with Gav Pike
ali_robb ?/Jun/04 Sent O/S
Hidden ?/Sep/03 Lead
tuftynick ??/2003 -
duncan 28/Sep/02 Lead O/S

1st Extreme for some time

with Hugo Glover
charlesmfrench 07/Jul/02 Solo O/S
Hidden 17/Aug/01 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2000 -
walts4 ??/2000 -
Hidden 17/Oct/99 Lead
RobSimmo 23/Jun/99 Lead dog

one fall at the crux! :(

with Steve Goodens, Jon Berry
kato'sdad 23/Jun/99 2nd
sadams ?/Oct/98 Lead
with John Boyle
Hidden 01/Nov/97 Lead
craig d ??/1997 -
Hidden 13/Oct/96 TR
nokishatov 16/May/96 Lead
ste_d 16/May/96 2nd O/S
with mik
Hidden 24/Jun/93 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/1992 Lead
keefe 15/Jul/90 AltLd
Glenn Sutcliffe 15/Jul/90 AltLd
with keefe
Hidden ??/1990 -
Nick Rundall ??/1990 2nd
Hidden 05/Nov/88 Lead
Neil McA 13/Sep/86 2nd O/S
with Martin Wilson, Roy Ruddle
stp 17/Aug/86 Lead O/S
Andy Nicholson ?/Apr/83 Lead O/S
with Spike
uphillnow ??/1981 Lead

Probably the same day I seconded Right Eliminate.

Dave Musgrove 22/Jun/80 Lead
with Kim Greenald
Mark Kemball 17/Apr/77 Lead dnf
mikej 28/Jun/69 Lead dnf
with Mike Browne
Hidden 30/Apr/67 TR
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