14m.

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A fine lead with reasonable but rather fiddly gear. Easy ground up the intial(!) slab leads to bolder moves up and left into a scoop. Follow this with increasing apprehension to the ledge. © Rockfax

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Pekkie 21 Jun, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Given VS 5a in Al Rouse's 1976 guide! A strange route - if you get it right it feels like VS, get it wrong and it's E1 - maybe I'm not very good in fiddling in gear!
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βeta: Given VS 5a in Al Rouse's 1976 guide! A strange route - if you get it right it feels like VS, get it wrong and it's E1 - maybe I'm not very good in fiddling in gear!
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Roger Cruse 22 Aug 2nd O/S
with Mike Nolan
with Mike Nolan
Hidden 22 Aug Lead O/S
secander 16 Jul TR O/S
mshorter 16 Jul Lead O/S
Jackspratt 30 Jun TR O/S So many sequences lines, definitely over complicated this.
So many sequences lines, definitely over complicated this.
mattlyons 21 May Lead O/S
with Adam
with Adam
Lenny 16 Apr Lead β
with Tom
with Tom
Albe 20 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S
with Street
with Street
Street 19 Jun, 2018 2nd
Amy Henchoz 24 May, 2018 Lead
Stuart Russell 24 May, 2018 2nd
benrhyd 24 May, 2018 Lead
with Sam parker
with Sam parker
Sam Parker ?May, 2018 2nd
with Ben Haynes
with Ben Haynes
Tommy_shaw 20 Apr, 2018 Lead
Flavio 22 Aug, 2017 Lead O/S
with Jumar Jenny
with Jumar Jenny
Graeme Hammond 8 May, 2017 Lead O/S Great climbing, slightly lacking direction but very enjoyable and fairly good gear, felt fairly soft at HVS not E1
Great climbing, slightly lacking direction but very enjoyable and fairly good gear, felt fairly soft at HVS not E1
Coel Hellier 30 Apr, 2017 Lead
Matadoors 8 Oct, 2016 TR
Hidden 7 Sep, 2016 TR β
pauldrew 6 Jul, 2016 TR
with Kevin Sales
with Kevin Sales
adam001 6 Jul, 2016 TR dnf
john_mx 28 May, 2016 2nd
JendeHoxar 27 May, 2016 Lead O/S
with john_mx
with john_mx
Sophie Nunn 20 Apr, 2016 2nd O/S
Sophie Nunn 20 Apr, 2016 2nd O/S
Allanfairfechan ??, 2016 Lead
with Simon Leigh Smith
with Simon Leigh Smith
Rob Gillespie 15 Oct, 2015 2nd O/S
whispering nic 13 Oct, 2015 Lead
with Pam
with Pam
Hidden 9 Oct, 2015 Lead RP
Daz Devey 15 Jul, 2015 Lead O/S Got a bit scared on this! I found the climbing ok but really struggled to find and place any gear that i was happy with. A Cam that i placed popped out as i moved up too!
Got a bit scared on this! I found the climbing ok but really struggled to find and place any gear that i was happy with. A Cam that i placed popped out as i moved up too!
Phil Davidson 15 Jul, 2015 TR
cmoxon 12 Jun, 2015 Lead O/S Nice climb
with Alex Pickard
Nice climb
with Alex Pickard
Jmpollard 2 Jun, 2015 Lead O/S Felt good, gear was a bit fiddly but there. Ended up climbing direct over the rounded roof at the very top (not sure if you're meant to) and had bit of a battle with the slopey top out. Great fun on a windy day.
Felt good, gear was a bit fiddly but there. Ended up climbing direct over the rounded roof at the very top (not sure if you're meant to) and had bit of a battle with the slopey top out. Great fun on a windy day.
Dave Almond 9 Apr, 2015 2nd
with frost
with frost
frost 9 Apr, 2015 Lead
sambeaumont 22 Mar, 2015 2nd
Hidden 9 Nov, 2014 TR rpt
Derek Furze 5 Nov, 2014 2nd Really nice climbing
with Dave, Paul Mitchell
Really nice climbing
with Dave, Paul Mitchell
Ally Smith 27 Sep, 2014 2nd
with Gareth
with Gareth
ehole 17 Sep, 2014 Solo O/S
Oliver.Pickup 7 Sep, 2014 2nd β
with David Greenald
with David Greenald
j.buckley87 4 Sep, 2014 Lead O/S
Otis 3 Sep, 2014 TR
Oliver.Pickup 27 Aug, 2014 2nd dnf
with David Greenald
with David Greenald
John sealey 15 Jul, 2014 Lead
with Adam crook, Dave Garry
with Adam crook, Dave Garry
Sam_Marsland 9 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
with Verity Auty, Tom Evans, Nick Bradbury
with Verity Auty, Tom Evans, Nick Bradbury
Hidden 30 Jun, 2014 2nd rpt
Oliver.Pickup 29 Jun, 2014 TR dnf
with David Greenald
with David Greenald
Hidden 14 Jun, 2014 TR rpt
pauldrew 12 Jun, 2014 TR
Jon Read 12 Jun, 2014 Lead
Theo Moore - UKC and UKH 11 Jun, 2014 Lead rpt
Roisin 5 Jun, 2014 Lead O/S
with theomoore
with theomoore
Oliver.Pickup ?Jun, 2014 2nd dnf
with David Greenald
with David Greenald
Hidden 15 May, 2014 2nd rpt
Dom Whillans 15 May, 2014 Lead
with Adam and Neil
with Adam and Neil
NeilGriffiths 15 May, 2014 2nd
with Dom, Adam
with Dom, Adam
jez_palmer 3 Apr, 2014 Lead O/S
Otis 4 Sep, 2013 TR
Dave Turnbull, BMC 24 Jul, 2013 2nd
with Mick Fowler
with Mick Fowler
sev 26 May, 2013 Lead O/S Nice, but nowhere near E1 5B, more like HS 4B and no real line. It gets 2 stars for the view and quality of rock.
Nice, but nowhere near E1 5B, more like HS 4B and no real line. It gets 2 stars for the view and quality of rock.
Jay C 21 Apr, 2013 2nd
J.Atkins 21 Apr, 2013 Lead O/S
Fran Sgr 21 Apr, 2013 2nd rpt
with jack A, Jay C
with jack A, Jay C
Andrew Lodge 17 Aug, 2012 Lead O/S Lovely route with interesting features, just finished before it started raining.
with Tony, steveshaking
Lovely route with interesting features, just finished before it started raining.
with Tony, steveshaking
Tony Ryland 17 Aug, 2012 Lead
steveshaking 17 Aug, 2012 2nd Nice delicate moves.
Nice delicate moves.
snappychick 29 Jul, 2012 TR dnf
M0untainM0nkey 29 Jul, 2012 TR dog
The Bad Cough 22 May, 2012 Lead rpt
John sealey 22 May, 2012 2nd
Dom Whillans 18 May, 2012 Lead
with a.crook
with a.crook
Hidden 17 May, 2012 Lead rpt
AmandaJG 11 Apr, 2012 2nd dog
Jon Read 23 Mar, 2012 Solo rpt First visit of 2012. Usual circuit, pretty clean and very dry.
First visit of 2012. Usual circuit, pretty clean and very dry.
Ally Smith 23 Mar, 2012 Solo rpt
trants1 14 Mar, 2012 2nd O/S
with deklan
with deklan
deklan 14 Mar, 2012 Lead
with trants1
with trants1
PAJames ??, 2012 -
Andy Nicholson 29 Sep, 2011 Lead O/S
with JD
with JD
OliBangbala 29 Sep, 2011 2nd β excellent lead by Ben, really nice route but i climbed it too fast and probably wrong, didn't take the time to appreciate the moves!!
excellent lead by Ben, really nice route but i climbed it too fast and probably wrong, didn't take the time to appreciate the moves!!
Chriswallis2 29 Sep, 2011 Lead β Lead on Ally's gear
Lead on Ally's gear
Ally Smith 29 Sep, 2011 Lead O/S
Chris Manasseh 21 Aug, 2011 TR Self-belay
Self-belay
Hidden 31 Jul, 2011 TR O/S
Rob Davies 20 Jul, 2011 Lead
with Angus McLean
with Angus McLean
frost 14 Jun, 2011 Lead
with D Almond
with D Almond
Hidden 14 Jun, 2011 Lead rpt
Nicole Almond 14 Jun, 2011 2nd was a good climb, adam made it look hard but claimed the gear wouldn't go on anywere... lovely weather, which made the view lovely at the top :)
was a good climb, adam made it look hard but claimed the gear wouldn't go on anywere... lovely weather, which made the view lovely at the top :)
Dave Almond ?Jun, 2011 Lead
with frost
with frost
pauldrew 11 May, 2011 TR
spidey 6 May, 2011 Lead O/S
with adam
with adam
gw3285 4 May, 2011 2nd
bbangbala 28 Mar, 2011 Lead dnf Finished up the vs next door after freaking about the gear and pumping out!
with Oli Bangbala
Finished up the vs next door after freaking about the gear and pumping out!
with Oli Bangbala
Julian Wedd ??, 2011 TR
with A. Brierley
with A. Brierley
Alex Winter 5 Sep, 2010 Lead rpt
with Soap
with Soap
Hidden 3 Sep, 2010 Lead O/S
Rich Guest 15 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S Felt about the easiest E1 I'd ever led. Apparently it's been downgraded now, rightly so! Fine climbing and moves throughout, well protected. Don't know what Rockfax is talking about??
Felt about the easiest E1 I'd ever led. Apparently it's been downgraded now, rightly so! Fine climbing and moves throughout, well protected. Don't know what Rockfax is talking about??
Hidden 15 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 10 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
PeteH 5 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S Great climbing! Didn't find it "spooky" at all as the guidebook said...
with pdufus
Great climbing! Didn't find it "spooky" at all as the guidebook said...
with pdufus
jandyd05 22 Jun, 2010 TR O/S
Hidden 22 Jun, 2010 TR
Hidden 17 Jun, 2010 2nd
NeilGriffiths 17 Jun, 2010 Lead Super. Truely golden in a dying sun.
with Adam
Super. Truely golden in a dying sun.
with Adam
Ralfy 26 May, 2010 Lead rpt Seconded before. E1 for poor/not spaced gear.
Seconded before. E1 for poor/not spaced gear.
Hidden 26 May, 2010 2nd rpt
Hidden 23 May, 2010 TR rpt
Hidden 13 May, 2010 Lead O/S
Ralfy 7 May, 2010 2nd O/S
Jon Read 8 Apr, 2010 Solo
with The jackdaws
with The jackdaws
cosreba 17 Mar, 2010 Lead
with adam06
with adam06
adam06 17 Mar, 2010 2nd
with cosreba
with cosreba
Hidden 5 Oct, 2009 Lead
Rob Davies 19 Sep, 2009 Lead rpt Well protected - HVS
with Al - Warrington
Well protected - HVS
with Al - Warrington
Hidden ?Aug, 2009 Lead O/S
afrouk 24 Jun, 2009 TR RP very nice climbs.. super hot weather at the momoent
very nice climbs.. super hot weather at the momoent
themax16 ?Apr, 2009 Lead O/S
nia ?Apr, 2009 Lead
with Richard
with Richard
Stig 8 Feb, 2009 TR O/S
with Goi
with Goi
mark s 20 Sep, 2008 Lead
with john dunne
with john dunne
stefan7n 18 Sep, 2008 TR
with adam06
with adam06
Jon Read 28 Aug, 2008 Solo rpt
with The peregrin
with The peregrin
andi turner 20 Aug, 2008 Lead Felt HVS.
with Mark Sharratt
Felt HVS.
with Mark Sharratt
Jon Read 7 Aug, 2008 Lead rpt
with Jan ?wak
with Jan ?wak
Rob Davies 1 Aug, 2008 TR
with Phil A
with Phil A
Hidden 30 Jul, 2008 TR
Alex Winter 13 Jul, 2008 Lead O/S
with jiles
with jiles
jiles 13 Jul, 2008 2nd
with Alex Winter
with Alex Winter
Hidden 15 Jun, 2008 Lead β
Hidden 4 Jun, 2008 Solo dnf
The Bad Cough ?May, 2008 2nd O/S
with Lee Bonner
with Lee Bonner
Jon Read 22 Apr, 2008 Solo O/S Lovely problem.
with Martin Boysen
Lovely problem.
with Martin Boysen
Tom Eagle 27 Mar, 2008 Solo rpt
dan1stdan 23 Feb, 2008 Lead O/S This 5B felt like a 5C.Getting good pro wasn't easy with only very shallow crevices to hook a hex in. A side runner placed in The Overhanging Crack was too short Causing the rope to meander with excessive drag
with Mark & Christian
This 5B felt like a 5C.Getting good pro wasn't easy with only very shallow crevices to hook a hex in. A side runner placed in The Overhanging Crack was too short Causing the rope to meander with excessive drag
with Mark & Christian
mark2572 23 Feb, 2008 2nd dog Hated it. Hard climb and well above my skill level. Tried to lead it before I seconded it but backed off it!
with Danny & Christian
Hated it. Hard climb and well above my skill level. Tried to lead it before I seconded it but backed off it!
with Danny & Christian
nige ??, 2008 -
alexharv3y 25 Oct, 2007 Lead dnf
Hidden 12 Sep, 2007 TR rpt
Hidden 12 Sep, 2007 TR
Hidden 12 Sep, 2007 TR dnf
Hidden 4 Sep, 2007 TR
steve mee 4 Sep, 2007 TR
Hidden 22 Aug, 2007 TR O/S
themax16 ?Jul, 2007 2nd O/S
tommakin ?Jul, 2007 Lead O/S
with James Maxwell
with James Maxwell
Tom Eagle ?Jun, 2007 Lead O/S Felt quite bold but enjoyable
with Nick Owen
Felt quite bold but enjoyable
with Nick Owen
John Marsland 2 May, 2007 TR
Steve Pardoe 2 May, 2007 TR Superb route, everything that Helsby has to offer. Excellent moves in an exposed position - would be a bold lead.
Superb route, everything that Helsby has to offer. Excellent moves in an exposed position - would be a bold lead.
Hidden 2 Apr, 2007 Solo RP
Mark Riley 5 Apr, 2006 Lead O/S
with Stuart Greenall
with Stuart Greenall
Hidden ??, 2006 -
Hidden ??, 2006 -
John Marsland 19 May, 2004 TR
pete johnson 20 Sep, 2002 Lead
with Lun
with Lun
pete johnson ??, 2002 Solo
Roget 16 May, 1999 Lead O/S
with jon
with jon
SR1970 ?Apr, 1999 Lead O/S
Hidden 11 May, 1984 TR
Hidden 15 Jun, 1980 TR
Hidden ??, 1980 TR
Rob Davies 4 Aug, 1976 TR
with Jim Kelly
with Jim Kelly
Ian Jones ??, 1975 -
with Billy Jones, Chris Newton, Mike Newton, Dave Greenald, Huw John
with Billy Jones, Chris Newton, Mike Newton, Dave Greenald, Huw John
Ian Jones ??, 1974 TR O/S
with Billy Jones, Chris Newton, Mike Newton, Dave Greenald, Huw John
with Billy Jones, Chris Newton, Mike Newton, Dave Greenald, Huw John
lump'o'lead ??, 1970 -
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