74m, 3 pitches.

Rockfax Description
The long rising-diagonal, and highest of the three girdles, is one of the major lines on the cliff and offers a superb outing with some astounding positions at the grade. Harder for the tall and potentially a bit of a gripper to second.
1) 4b, 35m. Start by the tree on the path, 10m right of a small cave and follow the cleaned path of West Wall Climb for two pitches to the sheltered stance at the start of the break.
2) 5a, 22m. Traverse down and right across the wall following the line of good holds (don't forget the second man) to reach the groove of The Thorn then climb this to the holly tree belay.
3) 5a, 26m. Climb back down rightwards again and get past the horrible spiky bush then cross the fingery wall to regain the break. Follow this (threads) in a wild position, to a grassy rake (thread belays up and left) and an easy escape to the ridge. © Rockfax

FA. G Smith, T Burnell 1966

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The Grist 5 Aug, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: This is pretty tough for the grade and easy to get slightly off route making it significantly harder. Good fun and worth doing though.
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βeta: This is pretty tough for the grade and easy to get slightly off route making it significantly harder. Good fun and worth doing though.
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Dan Vaj 31 Mar AltLd dog Led second pitch but accidentally took final pitch of enough time and fell at crux move
Led second pitch but accidentally took final pitch of enough time and fell at crux move
peterbbrown 31 Mar AltLd dnf Navigation issues on first traverse pitch made for interesting seconding.
with Dan Vaj
Navigation issues on first traverse pitch made for interesting seconding.
with Dan Vaj
Hidden 23 Feb Lead O/S
WilliamRupp 5 Oct, 2018 2nd 2nd pitch is mental, jules took a big lob after pulling off grass on the traverse
2nd pitch is mental, jules took a big lob after pulling off grass on the traverse
Stoney Boy 2 Oct, 2018 - Rose bush pruned back and stump killer applied. Hopefully this time it will not grow back but has multiple roots.
Rose bush pruned back and stump killer applied. Hopefully this time it will not grow back but has multiple roots.
ninjawil 24 Sep, 2018 AltLd dnf Finished up the Thorn. Be to continued.....
Finished up the Thorn. Be to continued.....
Hidden 9 Sep, 2018 AltLd O/S
poeter210 9 Sep, 2018 AltLd O/S P2 That effing thorn bush on P3 is back with a vengeance.
with druss
P2 That effing thorn bush on P3 is back with a vengeance.
with druss
Stoney Boy 31 Aug, 2018 AltLd O/S The thorn bush on the last pitch spoils the route. It needs removing.
with Clare Reading
The thorn bush on the last pitch spoils the route. It needs removing.
with Clare Reading
Gary Gibson 1 Jan, 2018 - Huge thorn bush on the top pitch removed. Top pitch cleaned up.
Huge thorn bush on the top pitch removed. Top pitch cleaned up.
clanger ??, 2018 -
michael.johnson ??, 2018 AltLd
John H Bull (tcfka Bullybones) ??, 2018 -
djones66 16 Aug, 2017 Lead rpt Did the top pitch, only, as a continuation of The Thorn, after belaying in the Thorn groove at same height as the infamous thorn bush on the Eliminate. From that belay, the traverse across and past/through the bush is quite a testing sequence, at the grade- harder than The Thorn (and spicier) but quality clmbing on a superb position. The rest of the pitch is great fun, and the gear's good. Makes a fantastic expedition up and across the crag.
with Stve mc D
Did the top pitch, only, as a continuation of The Thorn, after belaying in the Thorn groove at same height as the infamous thorn bush on the Eliminate. From that belay, the traverse across and past/through the bush is quite a testing sequence, at the grade- harder than The Thorn (and spicier) but quality clmbing on a superb position. The rest of the pitch is great fun, and the gear's good. Makes a fantastic expedition up and across the crag.
with Stve mc D
Small and weak 30 Jun, 2016 AltLd
Hidden 30 Jun, 2016 AltLd O/S
Whorlhill 30 Jun, 2016 AltLd
Hidden 29 May, 2016 AltLd
dr_botnik 20 Apr, 2016 AltLd O/S Loose and vegetated, but a real mountaineering experience! Led pitches 1 and 3 but thought second pitch was crux
Loose and vegetated, but a real mountaineering experience! Led pitches 1 and 3 but thought second pitch was crux
the power 20 Apr, 2016 AltLd Fuck me what a route, pulled on a quick draw I was that scared it's a peak limestone dream of white horses haha
Fuck me what a route, pulled on a quick draw I was that scared it's a peak limestone dream of white horses haha
Allanfairfechan ??, 2016 Lead
with Mike McGill, Graham Lee
with Mike McGill, Graham Lee
admackie 8 Aug, 2015 AltLd O/S wow this is everything i look for in a climb, can see it not being everyones cup of tea though, last pitch is the best
with sopaz
wow this is everything i look for in a climb, can see it not being everyones cup of tea though, last pitch is the best
with sopaz
sopaz 8 Aug, 2015 AltLd P2. Mega.
P2. Mega.
Hidden 19 Apr, 2015 2nd O/S
jon_gill1 18 Apr, 2015 AltLd O/S Me p1 (p2) and Ripper p2 (p3) in combination with first two pitches of Patience
with ripper
Me p1 (p2) and Ripper p2 (p3) in combination with first two pitches of Patience
with ripper
ripper 18 Apr, 2015 AltLd
GouldHarry ??, 2015 Lead O/S
Neil McA 27 Oct, 2014 AltLd O/S
with Gabriel
with Gabriel
Duncan Campbell 24 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S Pretty rubbish. Didn't do last pitch as we had to get back to Sheff. Not worth 3 stars IMO.
with Stadders
Pretty rubbish. Didn't do last pitch as we had to get back to Sheff. Not worth 3 stars IMO.
with Stadders
philhilo 8 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S What an excellent climb. First 1/2 pitches to the headwall better than expected. 1st traverse great position. 2nd traverse quite tricky at the start + negotiate the rose bush. At the end go up the grassy gully, don't go up the small butress above the belay....partner pulled off a big chunk and took a factor two fall back down the crag as well as a breeze block sized lump of limestone. Ouch!
with Phil simister
What an excellent climb. First 1/2 pitches to the headwall better than expected. 1st traverse great position. 2nd traverse quite tricky at the start + negotiate the rose bush. At the end go up the grassy gully, don't go up the small butress above the belay....partner pulled off a big chunk and took a factor two fall back down the crag as well as a breeze block sized lump of limestone. Ouch!
with Phil simister
Maia 7 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S
Jim Slater 7 Sep, 2014 AltLd O/S
with Maia
with Maia
jwhereat 31 May, 2014 AltLd Got some serious heeby jeebies on the traverse
Got some serious heeby jeebies on the traverse
mike mo ??, 2014 -
peterwisaac ??, 2014 -
tmawer 6 Oct, 2013 AltLd O/S Only first 2 pithces. Finished up Thorn; too hot, too overgrown and too scared!
Only first 2 pithces. Finished up Thorn; too hot, too overgrown and too scared!
BTphonehome 6 Oct, 2013 AltLd O/S
with tmawer
with tmawer
Hardcore Pat 2 Jun, 2013 AltLd O/S First and third - got a little bit lost on the second pitch. Could have done with some secateurs!
with Chris Vanderz
First and third - got a little bit lost on the second pitch. Could have done with some secateurs!
with Chris Vanderz
Hidden 8 May, 2013 Lead dnf
Pete Ogden ?Jul, 2012 AltLd The last pitch currently involves climbing through horrendous thorn bushes so beware!
with Pete Brown
The last pitch currently involves climbing through horrendous thorn bushes so beware!
with Pete Brown
marcoleptic 28 Mar, 2012 AltLd O/S Split 1st pitch into 2. I led P2 & P4, Awesome route, each pitch gets harder & more exposed.
with Alan
Split 1st pitch into 2. I led P2 & P4, Awesome route, each pitch gets harder & more exposed.
with Alan
Tony Kartawick ??, 2012 -
Graeme Hammond 21 May, 2011 AltLd O/S excellent, John led the first pitch, i led the 2nd, but then we abseiled off, John the led both pitches of The Thorn and I then led the last pitch to finish the route which made an excellent combination.
with Ahab
excellent, John led the first pitch, i led the 2nd, but then we abseiled off, John the led both pitches of The Thorn and I then led the last pitch to finish the route which made an excellent combination.
with Ahab
GF 2 Apr, 2011 AltLd
saul cashmore ??, 2011 -
Hidden 8 Aug, 2010 AltLd O/S
Phill Mitch 18 Apr, 2010 Lead O/S Lead both 5a pitches as John got cut to peices on the overgrown thorn bushes at the start of the last pitch,which are not as overgrown now!The last pitch is what the climb is all about, don't miss it.But do everyone a favour and take your pruning shears just for that one bush.Fantastic route.
with john d
Lead both 5a pitches as John got cut to peices on the overgrown thorn bushes at the start of the last pitch,which are not as overgrown now!The last pitch is what the climb is all about, don't miss it.But do everyone a favour and take your pruning shears just for that one bush.Fantastic route.
with john d
Hidden ??, 2010 Lead
Sankey 23 Aug, 2009 - Lead P2, exited up the thorn, P3 looked to be partially blocked by tree growth.
with Andy and Paul
Lead P2, exited up the thorn, P3 looked to be partially blocked by tree growth.
with Andy and Paul
andyebbens 23 Aug, 2009 AltLd finished up Thorn.
with steve and paul
finished up Thorn.
with steve and paul
will6459 2 Jun, 2009 AltLd O/S
with Andy Hext
with Andy Hext
Hidden 2 Jun, 2009 AltLd O/S
gazfellows 18 Apr, 2009 AltLd
gazfellows 18 Apr, 2009 AltLd
with ShaunD
with ShaunD
juza 5 Apr, 2009 Lead best HVS I have done yet
with Dan Brown
best HVS I have done yet
with Dan Brown
Hidden 20 Sep, 2008 AltLd
Hidden 9 Sep, 2007 2nd
pauldrew 2 Jun, 2007 Lead
with Kevin Sales
with Kevin Sales
Chesh ?Sep, 2005 AltLd O/S
with Paul Lestor
with Paul Lestor
Stig 23 Jul, 2005 AltLd O/S
with Jonathan Teale
with Jonathan Teale
runestone 14 May, 2005 AltLd
with J
with J
DubyaJamesDubya ?Aug, 2001 -
with Martin Flint
with Martin Flint
tuftynick ??, 2000 Lead
Chris Murray ?Jun, 1998 AltLd Stunning.
with Richard Bower
Stunning.
with Richard Bower
gritstone7 14 May, 1998 AltLd O/S Led pitch 2
with Phil
Led pitch 2
with Phil
Nettle 15 Jun, 1997 AltLd O/S *** - RNRMMC North Wales Meet!!! Chased away east by the rain and ended up here. This was a long term ambition and fantastic route in wild situations!
with Marti Hallet
*** - RNRMMC North Wales Meet!!! Chased away east by the rain and ended up here. This was a long term ambition and fantastic route in wild situations!
with Marti Hallet
Marti999 ?Jun, 1997 Lead O/S
with larry
with larry
roncaves 27 Apr, 1996 AltLd
with Ian Wadsworth
with Ian Wadsworth
Brian Rodgers ??, 1996 AltLd O/S
with Dave Oldacres
with Dave Oldacres
AlanLittle ??, 1996 Lead
with Robert Clark
with Robert Clark
NeilGriffiths ??, 1995 -
Hidden ??, 1994 Lead O/S
roncaves 15 May, 1993 AltLd
with John Foster, Steve Leather
with John Foster, Steve Leather
Mick King 11 Mar, 1993 AltLd Lead P 1 & 3
with Steve Hill
Lead P 1 & 3
with Steve Hill
nai ??, 1993 Lead
tlr 13 Sep, 1991 AltLd
with nai
with nai
Ena ?Apr, 1991 Lead O/S Finished up Thorn
with Martin Trouse
Finished up Thorn
with Martin Trouse
mark-abz 2 Sep, 1990 Lead
with Simon K
with Simon K
Steve Lenartowicz ??, 1990 Lead
goshawk ??, 1987 AltLd
steveb2006 17 Aug, 1986 AltLd
with Mervyn Dudley
with Mervyn Dudley
andybirtwistle 12 May, 1984 -
malc 28 Apr, 1984 AltLd
with T Grey
with T Grey
Hidden ?Apr, 1984 -
Mark Kemball 9 Feb, 1984 AltLd
with Hugh Stuart
with Hugh Stuart
Hidden 10 Mar, 1983 AltLd
charlesmfrench 23 Jan, 1983 Lead L,L,L.
with Nick
L,L,L.
with Nick
Gezzer ??, 1983 -
with Derek Shaw
with Derek Shaw
Martin Bennett 12 Oct, 1981 -
with JD
with JD
uphillnow ??, 1981 AltLd
with Dave Booth
with Dave Booth
robinsi197 ??, 1980 -
with Barbara
with Barbara
Andy Edgar ??, 1980 AltLd
with Mick Hardwick
with Mick Hardwick
Sean Kelly ??, 1980 -
duncan ?Jun, 1979 Lead O/S
Hidden 13 May, 1979 AltLd
neilh ??, 1979 2nd
Hidden 19 Sep, 1976 Lead
Hidden ?Nov, 1975 AltLd
Rick51 19 Jun, 1974 AltLd
mikej 12 Mar, 1972 Lead
with E C/W
with E C/W
Dave Musgrove 6 Nov, 1971 AltLd
with Bob Knapton
with Bob Knapton
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