74m, 3 pitches.

Rockfax Description
The long rising-diagonal, and highest of the three girdles, is one of the major lines on the cliff and offers a superb outing with some astounding positions at the grade. Harder for the tall and potentially a bit of a gripper to second.
1) 4b, 35m. Start by the tree on the path, 10m right of a small cave and follow the cleaned path of West Wall Climb for two pitches to the sheltered stance at the start of the break.
2) 5a, 22m. Traverse down and right across the wall following the line of good holds (don't forget the second man) to reach the groove of The Thorn then climb this to the holly tree belay.
3) 5a, 26m. Climb back down rightwards again and get past the horrible spiky bush then cross the fingery wall to regain the break. Follow this (threads) in a wild position, to a grassy rake (thread belays up and left) and an easy escape to the ridge. © Rockfax

FA. G Smith, T Burnell 1966

Ticklists: 100 best limestone climbs in Britain, High Quality Adventure routes.

Gary Gibson 01/Jan -

Huge thorn bush on the top pitch removed. Top pitch cleaned up.

djones66 16/Aug/17 Lead rpt

Did the top pitch, only, as a continuation of The Thorn, after belaying in the Thorn groove at same height as the infamous thorn bush on the Eliminate. From that belay, the traverse across and past/through the bush is quite a testing sequence, at the grade- harder than The Thorn (and spicier) but quality clmbing on a superb position. The rest of the pitch is great fun, and the gear's good. Makes a fantastic expedition up and across the crag.

with Stve mc D
mike fenwick 30/Jun/16 AltLd
with Chris Coapes, Ben Pearce
Hidden 30/Jun/16 AltLd O/S
Hidden 29/May/16 AltLd
dr_botnik 20/Apr/16 AltLd O/S

Loose and vegetated, but a real mountaineering experience! Led pitches 1 and 3 but thought second pitch was crux

the power 20/Apr/16 AltLd

Fuck me what a route, pulled on a quick draw I was that scared it's a peak limestone dream of white horses haha

with rob
Allanfairfechan ??/2016 Lead
with Mike McGill, Graham Lee
admackie 08/Aug/15 AltLd O/S

wow this is everything i look for in a climb, can see it not being everyones cup of tea though, last pitch is the best

sopaz 08/Aug/15 AltLd

P2. Mega.

with Mackie
Hidden 19/Apr/15 2nd O/S
jon_gill1 18/Apr/15 AltLd O/S

Me p1 (p2) and Ripper p2 (p3) in combination with first two pitches of Patience

ripper 18/Apr/15 AltLd
GouldHarry ??/2015 Lead O/S
Neil McA 27/Oct/14 AltLd O/S
with Gabriel
Duncan Campbell 24/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Pretty rubbish. Didn't do last pitch as we had to get back to Sheff. Not worth 3 stars IMO.

with Stadders
philhilo 08/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

What an excellent climb. First 1/2 pitches to the headwall better than expected. 1st traverse great position. 2nd traverse quite tricky at the start + negotiate the rose bush. At the end go up the grassy gully, don't go up the small butress above the belay....partner pulled off a big chunk and took a factor two fall back down the crag as well as a breeze block sized lump of limestone. Ouch!

with Phil simister
Hidden 07/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
Jim Slater 07/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with Maia
jwhereat 31/May/14 AltLd

Got some serious heeby jeebies on the traverse

mike mo ??/2014 -
peterwisaac ??/2014 -
tmawer 06/Oct/13 AltLd O/S

Only first 2 pithces. Finished up Thorn; too hot, too overgrown and too scared!

with Bram
BTphonehome 06/Oct/13 AltLd O/S
with Tony
Hardcore Pat 02/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

First and third - got a little bit lost on the second pitch. Could have done with some secateurs!

with Chris Vanderz
Hidden 08/May/13 Lead dnf
Pete Ogden ?/Jul/12 AltLd

The last pitch currently involves climbing through horrendous thorn bushes so beware!

with Pete Brown
marcoleptic 28/Mar/12 AltLd O/S

Split 1st pitch into 2. I led P2 & P4, Awesome route, each pitch gets harder & more exposed.

with Alan
Tony Kartawick ??/2012 -
Graeme Hammond 21/May/11 AltLd O/S

excellent, John led the first pitch, i led the 2nd, but then we abseiled off, John the led both pitches of The Thorn and I then led the last pitch to finish the route which made an excellent combination.

GF 02/Apr/11 AltLd
saul cashmore ??/2011 -
Hidden 08/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
Phill Mitch 18/Apr/10 Lead O/S

Lead both 5a pitches as John got cut to peices on the overgrown thorn bushes at the start of the last pitch,which are not as overgrown now!The last pitch is what the climb is all about, don't miss it.But do everyone a favour and take your pruning shears just for that one bush.Fantastic route.

with john d
Hidden ??/2010 Lead
Sankey 23/Aug/09 -

Lead P2, exited up the thorn, P3 looked to be partially blocked by tree growth.

with Andy and Paul
andyebbens 23/Aug/09 AltLd

finished up Thorn.

with steve and paul
will6459 02/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
with Andy Hext
Hidden 02/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
gazfellows 18/Apr/09 AltLd
gazfellows 18/Apr/09 AltLd
with shaun d
juza 05/Apr/09 Lead

best HVS I have done yet

with Dan Brown
Hidden 20/Sep/08 AltLd
Hidden 09/Sep/07 2nd
pauldrew 02/Jun/07 Lead
with Kevin Sales
Chesh ?/Sep/05 AltLd O/S
with Paul Lestor
Stig 23/Jul/05 AltLd O/S
with Jonathan Teale
runestone 14/May/05 AltLd
with J
DubyaJamesDubya ?/Aug/01 -
with Martin Flint
tuftynick ??/2000 Lead
Chris Murray ?/Jun/98 AltLd


with Richard Bower
Marti999 ?/Jun/97 Lead O/S
with larry
roncaves 27/Apr/96 AltLd
with Ian Wadsworth
Hidden ??/1996 AltLd O/S
AlanLittle ??/1996 Lead
with Robert Clark
NeilGriffiths ??/1995 -
Hidden ??/1994 Lead O/S
roncaves 15/May/93 AltLd
with John Foster, Steve Leather
Mick King 13/Mar/93 AltLd

Lead P 1 & 3

with Steve Hill
nai ??/1993 Lead
tlr 13/Sep/91 AltLd
with Pom
Ena ?/Apr/91 Lead O/S

Finished up Thorn

with Martin Trouse
mark-abz 02/Sep/90 Lead
with Simon K
Steve Lenartowicz ??/1990 Lead
Hidden 17/Jul/86 AltLd
andybirtwistle 12/May/84 -
malc 28/Apr/84 AltLd
with T Grey
Hidden ?/Apr/84 -
Mark Kemball 09/Feb/84 AltLd
with Hugh Stuart
Hidden 10/Mar/83 AltLd
charlesmfrench 23/Jan/83 Lead


with Nick
Gezzer ??/1983 -
with Derek Shaw
Martin Bennett 12/Oct/81 -
with JD
uphillnow ??/1981 AltLd
with Dave Booth
robinsi197 ??/1980 -
with Barbara
Andy Edgar ??/1980 AltLd
with Mick Hardwick
Sean Kelly ??/1980 -
duncan ?/Jun/79 Lead O/S
Hidden 13/May/79 AltLd
neilh ??/1979 2nd
Hidden 19/Sep/76 Lead
Hidden ?/Nov/75 AltLd
mikej 12/Mar/72 Lead
with E
Dave Musgrove 06/Nov/71 AltLd
with Bob Knapton
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