2 pitches. No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: Craig Bwlch y Moch Starred VS Challenge.

matildascott111 09/Oct/16 AltLd
James-m-h 22/Sep/16 Lead O/S
with Cosette darby
Ben Wooler 11/Sep/16 2nd
Hidden 11/Sep/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/Aug/16 Lead O/S
ads 13/Aug/16 AltLd
Hidden 12/Aug/16 Lead
dkd ?/Aug/16 AltLd O/S
with Mike Tutt
Katie S 27/Jul/16 AltLd
with Ste
emgroves 22/Jul/16 AltLd
Bob M 14/Jul/16 AltLd

Desperate muddy scramble to reach the start. Excellent main pitch with only one awkward section, but the top pitch is in danger of disappearing under brambles and ivy - take a pair of secateurs next time.

Norman_P_W 14/Jul/16 AltLd
with Bob M
08nbrierley 21/Jun/16 Lead O/S

Just the first Pitch

with Sanna
Katie S 18/Jun/16 Lead
Matt Schwarz 18/Jun/16 2nd

has anyone actually climbed pitch 2 since 1961? massively overgrown!

with katie
Hidden 11/Jun/16 Lead
myrddinmuse 01/Jun/16 Lead O/S

Really special first pitch. Solid for the grade I think, or maybe it was the heat! Anyway, a great climb, diminished by the choss on the second part.

with Timon
georgenvk 29/May/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/May/16 AltLd
Fat Andy Heff 19/May/16 AltLd O/S


Mike Roger ??/2016 -
Twid Turner ??/2016 -
joedean ??/2016 -
Climbingspike ??/2016 -
Mr. K 26/Sep/15 AltLd O/S

I lead pitch two, after taking a small fall pumping out on pitch one - I'd missed a crucial nubbin for bridging on. A disappointing route overall, the first pitch was too short to warrant any starrage and hard for the grade.

AndrewP 14/Sep/15 Lead O/S
Nellewelly 06/Sep/15 AltLd β
martinlevya82 17/Aug/15 AltLd O/S
Hidden 25/Jul/15 Lead O/S
brockers 25/Jul/15 2nd
TGreen 19/Jul/15 AltLd O/S
Rosie Henstock 19/Jul/15 AltLd O/S

Decided to rope up for the approach as it was quite slippy. Lead P1 - Awesome! Nicely sustained bridging and pro wherever you want it!

wi11 03/Jun/15 Lead O/S
with Sabby
Dizz 30/May/15 AltLd O/S

Tremfest clean up of approach ... New routing on top pitch up the arete as crack and chimney overgrown - hvs 4c my way? but very fun! First pitch very good. Approach cleaned as had been a rockfall, but rockfall has made it harder - advise use a rope as actual climbing now and be aware there may still be loose material.

with Ian l
Hidden 30/May/15 AltLd O/S
George Killaspy 25/May/15 AltLd O/S
with Darren
1-2-3-40 15/Apr/15 AltLd

clean, crack getting polished.

Sol Armer 28/Mar/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 23/Mar/15 Lead O/S
JosephTATaylor 21/Mar/15 2nd O/S
jcw ??/2015 -
Darron ??/2015 -
Pete_Frost 30/Nov/14 AltLd rpt

The approach to the foot of the route has suffered a bit of rockfall - it is still safe, but requires a bit more care. Nice first pitch, scrappy top pitch

with Jeannie Sherwood
Hidden 30/Nov/14 AltLd O/S
Lyndsay Superclimber 29/Oct/14 AltLd O/S

Led 1st pitch-was great! Scramble up to it more sketchy-look out for the boulder with the via ferrata step in - go up and left of this then round to a big tree at the start.

with Ryan
Hidden 29/Oct/14 AltLd
luke glaister 20/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Finding it was the hardest part. Big packs on with bulky footwear through mud loose rock and brambles. However. The first pitch is brilliant with great gear all the way. Pitch 2 is some nice move's with more brambles. All in all. 1* and worth a look.

casey johns 20/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

worth the effort just for the first pitch.

Hidden 09/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
rachelpearce01 25/Jun/14 2nd O/S
Hidden 25/Jun/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/May/14 2nd O/S
Hidden 17/May/14 AltLd
iwanap 17/May/14 2nd O/S
with Gerwyn
Hidden 14/May/14 Lead
maria85 03/May/14 Lead O/S

Led as one pitch. The lower crack is amazing, pity about the upper bramble fest.

with Rob Cooper, Jules
Pete Randall 03/May/14 2nd O/S
with Rob H, Pete Neden
caradoc 13/Apr/14 AltLd

Resorted to a rope on approach 'scramble'. Apart from an aggressive bramble second pitch seemed quite clean. Good climb. http://youtu.be/QU6IcAVNXVw

with Matt H.
Hidden 30/Mar/14 AltLd
foostu4 29/Mar/14 AltLd O/S
simeclimb68 29/Mar/14 AltLd rpt
with Ed Mtchell
edmitchell 29/Mar/14 AltLd O/S

Great jamming!

with Simon Palmer, brmc members
td72 15/Mar/14 AltLd O/S
sadams601 ?/Mar/14 AltLd O/S

Lead 2nd pitch.

friendzone1234 ?/Mar/14 AltLd O/S
davebrox ??/2014 -
Ewan Russell 10/Nov/13 AltLd O/S

p2. Very good climb. Scramble approach may need to be roped up for those not confident.

with Halla
scotty h 12/Oct/13 2nd β

We did the original finish, too much ivy otherwise.

with Matt Moore, Andy Finney
Simon Cahill 28/Aug/13 2nd dnf

Logged as DNF but actually Did not start But logged here for future reference. Approach is a long exposed diff solo! Deb backed off the crack after 3m, as it was getting late we abseiled off the same route we climbed up to the start and climbed Christmas Curry. Worth a revisit but looks quite sustained and maybe high in the grade.

Ian JL 27/Aug/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 27/Aug/13 2nd
Hidden 25/Aug/13 Lead O/S
jezb1 24/Aug/13 2nd

Lead before, P1 only.

Steve Lenartowicz 20/Aug/13 Lead
with Clare
alias dave 08/Jun/13 Lead O/S

If you forget the approach awesome route. Well worth the jungle whacking death defying scramble.

with Josh, Dan Allen
Droyd 05/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with Tom Davis
J.Atkins 04/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Lead pitch 1

Hidden 03/Jun/13 AltLd dog
thecurlyone 01/Jun/13 Lead O/S

Great corner crack. Challenging crux both technically and physically, but plenty of bomber gear. The easier climbing above is joyful if you keep away from the brambles.

Jones_88 26/May/13 AltLd
guy757 25/May/13 Lead
Stone Muppet 25/May/13 Lead O/S
with ah
mike lawrence? 24/May/13 Lead

Done in one pitch, top pitch rarely done but has superb rough rock so well worth doing despite the ivy.

with Colin
Hidden 23/May/13 2nd O/S
Tarquin 22/May/13 Lead
Hidden 19/May/13 Lead O/S
alpinismo.uk 04/May/13 AltLd
Simon Caldwell 04/May/13 AltLd O/S

C led p1, I led p2. Excellent route. First pitch easier than it looks, 2nd pitch has been cleaned recently and is a delight, finishing up the rib to the right of the chimney

with Carmen
Hidden 04/May/13 AltLd O/S
Joshthomas 27/Apr/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 18/Apr/13 AltLd
Hidden 13/Apr/13 AltLd
Matt South West 07/Apr/13 2nd
Abi Chard 01/Mar/13 AltLd O/S
with Ian
sparkybatteryboy 17/Feb/13 Lead
Hidden 02/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 02/Feb/13 AltLd O/S
Nick Biven ??/2013 -
Jonesdben ??/2013 -
csalvage 21/Oct/12 AltLd

Fell off but not badly. hard move for the grade, could have been 5a but maybe I just wasnt climbong so well. Chuffed to overcome slightly negative head

with Bryan
Hidden 27/Sep/12 -
mynyddresident 28/Jul/12 2nd

good feature, bit shortlived.

with joe
claregardiner 04/Jun/12 2nd
Hidden 02/Jun/12 AltLd dog
richyg 02/Jun/12 -
Hidden 13/May/12 AltLd O/S
Dale ?/May/12 AltLd O/S

Great route although it is quite hard to find. Dave lead crux pitch top bridging all the way. second pitch jungle adventurneering.

with dave
therat 28/Apr/12 Lead O/S

I lead the second pitch

Hidden 10/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
Dave 88 07/Apr/12 AltLd O/S

First climb at Tremadog. I lead 1st, which was a brilliant bridging corner. The climb is let down by the second pitch which was, to be honest, dump. Also the Diff approach was terrifying in the damp with trainers.

Double Knee Bar 07/Apr/12 AltLd O/S

Lead P2. First pitch was class, second was crap.

with Dave 88
PaulTanton 07/Apr/12 Lead O/S

This is a good route if you can find it. The scramble to the start is as hard as the main pitch. Beware of the brambles.

with Anita Grey
jossjones ?/Mar/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 01/Jan/12 AltLd
Callum Anderson ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
cem 26/Nov/11 AltLd O/S

Led p2

Hidden 26/Nov/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden 13/Nov/11 AltLd
Hidden 13/Nov/11 AltLd
AntWallace 05/Nov/11 Lead O/S
adam06 24/Sep/11 Lead

great first pitch! then gets very overgrown! needs a good clean...

with chris white
Hidden ?/Sep/11 2nd
Katex 05/Aug/11 2nd
with Will, Simon Edwards
Hidden ?/Aug/11 AltLd
outlaw87 20/Jun/11 2nd

most challenging route ive done so far as a climber which hasn't really been very long. The second pitch was fine and i got through it easy but i must admit i did struggle a bit on the crack.layed back up the middle part then there was a few holds to get up the rest. I did rest down on the rope once or twice but i managed to get through it so overall happy :)

Hidden 20/Jun/11 Lead rpt
Danjones 31/May/11 AltLd O/S

First pitch eases towards top of corner, led second pitch - straight forward - original finish.

with Steve Keys
Hidden 29/May/11 Lead O/S
james.slater 27/May/11 AltLd O/S

Brilliant first pitch, terrible second, dont bother with it!

TomMorgan 27/May/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden 24/May/11 AltLd rpt
jezb1 16/Apr/11 AltLd

P1. Felt stiff to me but stacks of gear.

mike_uk82 16/Apr/11 -
kdalzell 09/Apr/11 2nd
Liam FLeming 09/Apr/11 Lead
with karen dalzell
dan ely 08/Apr/11 AltLd O/S
with tony (army)
HIGHTOWER 02/Apr/11 Lead O/S

The corner is lovely. Led in one big pitch, origional finish.

with Nikki
brockers 02/Apr/11 -

fine first pitch well worth the arduous approach.

Hidden 02/Apr/11 -
wilkie14c 07/Mar/11 AltLd O/S
with Dave Clarke
Hidden ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
chrisallan 31/Oct/10 Lead O/S
Steve Woollard 15/Oct/10 Lead
with Lou Reynolds
sdrawkcabeoj 18/Sep/10 -

Pretty hairy in places but otherwise enjoyable climbing, got a old (rigid) size 3 friend stuck just a few feet from the top, if you can get it out you deserve it

with Ken Priest
dan-8990 12/Sep/10 AltLd O/S
with AO
dominiclincoln 04/Sep/10 -
with attirechimps, griffon
Hidden 26/Aug/10 AltLd
Olli-C 26/Aug/10 AltLd
with Dad
Phil Crudge 26/Aug/10 AltLd
with Olli-C
popov86 ?/May/10 -
popov86 ?/May/10 Lead
Different Steve 25/Apr/10 Lead rpt
with Clare
michael burrows 24/Apr/10 Lead O/S

as part of the tremadog clean up festival

Hidden ??/2010 -
simeclimb68 ??/2010 -
simonp ?/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with Annelies Sarrazyn
Hidden 08/Aug/09 AltLd O/S
aged_ape 03/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with Alex B
Hidden 21/Jun/09 AltLd
Hidden 21/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
dan gibson 22/Apr/09 Solo O/S
climbinmunkey 13/Apr/09 AltLd dog

Way harder than grades given the guidebook. 1st pitch is outstanding; very gymnastic. Second pitch is initially jungle exploration followed by by a desperated climb up a corner 'cause a crucial foothold is very polished. Might be better for the tall!

with Helen
ritchierich 12/Apr/09 AltLd rpt

Top pitch needs a bit of gardening.

with Wyn Price
babymoac 25/Jan/09 Lead

Just beat the dark. P2 still vegetated but worth it for the main crack.

with Gareth
Karlos 27/Sep/08 AltLd O/S

Scramble to the start (up broken chimney left of Kestral Crack) might want to be pitched. 1st pitch looks intinidating, but strenuous moves alls short lived, and load of good gear. Really nice pitch. 2nd pitch still a bit over grown, but good position on exposed slab.

with Ben
victim of mathematics 30/Aug/08 AltLd O/S

Led pitch 2. The approach was rather exciting! Pitch one also had its moments (and was definitely harder than the 4b given in the guide). A nice route all told though. Could do with more traffic on the upper slab!

Hidden 04/Nov/07 Lead O/S
Ian Andrews 04/Nov/07 Lead O/S
Hidden 13/Oct/07 Lead dnf
barni ??/2007 AltLd


with Paul James
Hidden 27/Aug/06 Lead
rc 27/Aug/06 AltLd
sgl0jd ?/Jul/06 AltLd
with Steve Hobbs
ritchierich 15/Apr/06 AltLd O/S

I got first pitch but found getting to the climb more hairier.

with Ritchie Griffiths
NickBrat ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
samwelli 23/Aug/05 AltLd O/S
with Steve Hobbs
GScot38 15/Aug/05 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/05 Lead
Nigel Coe 09/May/04 AltLd
with Amnon, Scott Titt
Hidden 09/May/04 AltLd
masa-alpin 17/Nov/01 2nd β

My first Welsh climbing.

with Rob Whit [ULMC]
chrishedgehog 15/Aug/00 Lead O/S
with Joe Thompson
Marq ?/May/00 AltLd O/S
with Mel Cutler
Marti999 ??/2000 AltLd
Rog Wilko ?/Nov/98 Lead
with Debbie Wilkinson
Paul Boardman 30/Aug/98 AltLd O/S
with Iain Boardman
Ched ??/1997 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
Just Another Dave ??/1997 Lead
five ?/Jun/96 AltLd O/S
with TW
iskra2000 27/May/96 AltLd

Overgrown at top in '96

with Paul Woodcock
Hidden 27/Apr/96 2nd
Budge ??/1995 Lead O/S
with Pete Stockton
Hidden ??/1993 AltLd
Hidden 31/May/92 AltLd
Derek Ryden ?/Jun/91 Lead O/S

Pitch 1 only

with Niel
Hidden 02/Mar/91 2nd
Hidden 21/Jul/90 AltLd
Hidden 25/Feb/90 AltLd
Hidden ??/1990 Lead O/S
Paul Clarke ??/1990 AltLd
with .
tlr 26/Nov/89 AltLd
with Fin
Iain Thow 04/Jun/89 Lead
with Paul Whatley
Chris Ellis 22/Apr/89 2nd
with Ernie Horrocks
nigehughes ?/Apr/89 2nd
with Mark Hall
Martin Bennett 30/Jan/88 -
with MT
Carl Smethurst 24/Sep/87 AltLd dog
with Simon Tovell
Hidden 02/May/87 Lead
ewar woowar ??/1987 -
Rob Davies ?/Aug/85 Lead

How could I have fallen off this?

with David Kinniburgh
Hidden 23/Mar/85 AltLd
Hidden ??/1985 AltLd
sadams 15/Sep/84 AltLd
with Celia Bull
Hidden 07/Apr/84 AltLd O/S
Robmwatt ??/1984 -
nigehughes ?/Sep/83 AltLd
with Jim Rintoul
AlanLittle ?/Feb/83 AltLd
with Simon Catterall
nigehughes ?/Sep/82 AltLd
with Mick Taylor
GordonHart ??/1982 Lead O/S
Tim Sparrow ??/1982 Lead
with Steve Gynes
andy gittins ??/1982 -
mark-abz 27/Sep/81 2nd
with Andy W
Andy Fielding 15/Sep/81 AltLd
with Mike Gilbert
Hidden 04/May/81 Solo
duncan ?/Aug/80 Solo O/S
Chris Terrey ?/Feb/80 AltLd
with Pete Hevezi
Ian Clare ??/1980 -
Ghastly Rubberfeet ??/1980 Lead
rogerskews ??/1980 AltLd
with Richard Walters
TonyF 21/Aug/79 AltLd O/S
with Ian Birkinshaw
tapley 18/Aug/79 Lead
with Alison Tapley
Hidden 05/May/79 AltLd
kjacks ??/1979 AltLd
with Lol Fletcher
telemark ??/1978 -
RichardMc 03/Dec/77 Lead

Wearing mountain boots

with Betty Seifert
Rob Davies 14/Apr/76 Lead dnf

Fell off P1. Lot of room for improvement in climbing cracks

with Nicola Davis (CUMC)
Steve Lewis 25/Feb/76 AltLd O/S
with sharpie
Mark Kemball 20/Dec/75 AltLd
with Roger Leval
Hidden 03/Jul/75 AltLd
Bolt Phobia 28/Feb/75 Lead
petemeads ??/1975 Lead
Ian Jones ??/1975 Solo O/S
granitbahn ??/1975 AltLd
Mike Owen ??/1975 -
with John Roberts
mikej 16/Jul/74 2nd
with Mike Byles
Dave Musgrove 09/Feb/74 AltLd
with Bob Knapton
Gordon Stainforth 17/Oct/71 AltLd

One of John's ropes 'fell off' his harness ...

with John Williams
lump'o'lead ??/1970 -
Seymore Butt ??/1970 -
Dave Musgrove 25/Apr/69 AltLd
with Dennis Gray
mikej 26/Feb/68 AltLd
with Keith Johnson, Geoff Williams
RichardMc 05/Mar/67 2nd
with Ian Stromberg
uphillnow ??/1964 AltLd


with jim williams
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