Rockfax Description
A stopper move guards the main groove. Gain the groove with difficulty, head up it to bulges then escape right. © Rockfax

Ticklists: Connoisseur's Classic Rock, North Wales Rock Graded List, Snowdonia in Chains.

royle883 26/Sep Lead O/S
Hidden 27/Aug 2nd
barneytrubble 24/Aug 2nd
Hidden 20/Aug 2nd
jameslomax 13/Aug Lead O/S

Hard polished start for the grade

with Holly
suds_01 13/Aug Lead O/S
with Billy
mattdennies 13/Aug Lead O/S

First move was not as hard as I was expecting, nice holds throughout, shame it was so short.

with Anniken
John Bunney 13/Aug Lead
with Butel
Butel 13/Aug 2nd O/S
WillDoole 04/Aug Lead O/S

Felt tougher than piton route we had just come up, but easy ground after the first few moves.

with Kelly, Rachel Armstrong
Deezel65 25/Jul Lead O/S

Tricky move to start, then a little balancy, good gear and quickly eases to pleasent easy climbing. Over too soon

LJJ77 25/Jul Lead rpt
with Reg
Hidden 25/Jul 2nd
jing 25/Jul 2nd β

Guess I could only log as second with beta. Tricky start. Great lead from Catherine (3 years later).

with Catherine W
Matt Smith 24/Jul Lead O/S

Really tough start.

with Susanna Jamieson, Zoe Taylor
Hidden 24/Jul 2nd O/S
Samantha Dickson 24/Jul Lead O/S
with Ali Baxter
Hidden 24/Jul 2nd O/S
tiga271 24/Jul 2nd
with Dave
Maddie 23/Jul Lead O/S
with Alun
Becky 15/Jul 2nd
with Matt
babymoac 09/Jul 2nd
with nclarey, gavin buttimore
Hidden 09/Jul Lead
nclarey 09/Jul 2nd O/S

After a nervous start, completely nailed by Gavin. A bit of moisture in the late afternoon air made the polish on the lower section and the entry in particular a challenging prospect. Ultimately short and sweet and a lovely end to my first day at Idwal.

with Andy, Gavin Buttimore
Hidden 09/Jul Lead
Steve Dunton 08/Jul -
with Gordon Wilkie
Hidden 05/Jul Lead
ben1987 02/Jul 2nd

Tough start but great fun, especially with a bag!

Hidden 02/Jul AltLd rpt
Luke90 24/Jun 2nd O/S
with Dan W
Mark Reeves 20/Jun 2nd

Working coaching a client as they led it.

John Foster 20/Jun Lead
LJJ77 19/Jun Lead O/S

Took a little time to work out the start but ok once I figured it out nice route

Thomas Healing 19/Jun Lead G/U
with Adam Scott, Adam King
Hidden 18/Jun 2nd
hairy51 09/Jun Lead O/S
jules1990 04/Jun Lead O/S
Wojtek Haase 28/May Lead O/S

Scary start

with Steve
Penny32 26/May Lead O/S
with Mike D
Hidden 26/May 2nd
gethin_allen 26/May Lead O/S
Ron Rees Davies 23/May 2nd
penyolewen 23/May Lead
with Ron
Hidden 09/May Lead
hlegge 07/May 2nd O/S

Johnathan Goves second ever outdoor lead. Stopper move at the beginning certainly livened it up!

Johnathan 07/May Lead O/S
MarkFoster 04/May 2nd rpt
with Greg
C Witter 04/May Lead O/S

The fourth route of a Cwm Idwal enchainment: Sub-Cneifion Rib, Tennis Shoe, Lazarus, Groove Above, Central Arete - before a route up Milestone Buttress. Enjoyable first couple of moves - and interesting with a big rucksack on. Then a pleasant amble to the top.

with Francis
Ewa Koc 09/Apr -
Garnham 09/Apr Lead

awful climb,

with jcdavy
jcdavy 09/Apr 2nd O/S

Shiny shiny rock

with Nathan
Katie2401Tron 09/Apr 2nd O/S
with Ben
Tom.Sedgwick 06/Apr Lead
Gerben Neven 06/Apr 2nd O/S
Cbulman 06/Apr Lead
morgan91 26/Mar Lead rpt
Hidden 09/Mar Lead
cwildblood 30/Dec/16 Lead O/S
sambeaumont 30/Oct/16 2nd
with James Brake
Hidden 30/Oct/16 2nd
Hidden 30/Oct/16 Lead rpt
tomdawson4 25/Oct/16 2nd
pftom 23/Oct/16 Solo
Hidden 10/Oct/16 2nd
Hidden 10/Oct/16 Lead O/S
musgravet 10/Oct/16 2nd

led by Olly

spacecadet10 06/Oct/16 AltLd

In boots

with Antony
bclifton 17/Sep/16 Lead
Ben Wadsworth 17/Sep/16 2nd O/S

Simul climbed

with Ben Clifton
Hidden 17/Sep/16 2nd O/S
cdpuk 10/Sep/16 Lead O/S
patrickhoey32 30/Aug/16 Lead
Mouse5 25/Aug/16 2nd O/S
Andypeak 24/Aug/16 2nd
gaz3212 24/Aug/16 Lead O/S
jaycloth16 23/Aug/16 Lead O/S

Linked with Lazarus and tennis shoe great day out and loved every minute.

with Kevin webster
Hidden 16/Aug/16 Lead O/S
Jmpollard 16/Aug/16 2nd β

Stiff pull in, and then a lovely little route after that

Rob Royle 14/Aug/16 Lead
with Gav
gavster 14/Aug/16 2nd
with rob
charlie.wilkinson 13/Aug/16 2nd
with Lotte
Hidden 13/Aug/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 13/Aug/16 2nd
Lotte Stuer 13/Aug/16 Lead 07/Aug/16 AltLd O/S
with Danny (Craigs mate)
Dannygw 07/Aug/16 Lead O/S
with Ben
FlavioL1989 06/Aug/16 Solo O/S
Mike Bayley 05/Aug/16 2nd
with Mervyn Lamacraft
Niall13 31/Jul/16 AltLd O/S
Hidden 31/Jul/16 AltLd O/S
neal 31/Jul/16 2nd O/S
with Sophie W-J
MD 30/Jul/16 2nd
with Jo
Happy Wanderer 30/Jul/16 Lead O/S
with Mike D
Hidden 21/Jul/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 21/Jul/16 2nd
zimpara 19/Jul/16 2nd O/S

Tough stuff for a severe.

with rob
Hidden 19/Jul/16 Lead G/U
megamonkeyman 19/Jul/16 Lead O/S

Backflip dyno start

with jason
bob johnson 17/Jul/16 Lead O/S
with Bram, Des Barnett
gpcomps 17/Jul/16 Lead O/S

A bit tricky for a severe, the first half felt quite precarious

with miketong, Mike Preece
Hidden 02/Jul/16 AltLd O/S
Hidden 22/Jun/16 Lead O/S
kierankeavy 22/Jun/16 2nd O/S
with Matt Lawrence
Elastic Jones 21/Jun/16 Lead O/S
with Spanny
xusa 21/Jun/16 2nd
Hidden 21/Jun/16 Lead O/S
cjohn62 18/Jun/16 AltLd
with keith
iwanap 05/Jun/16 AltLd
with Euryn
Hidden 05/Jun/16 Lead
Hidden 04/Jun/16 Solo rpt
TGreen 04/Jun/16 2nd O/S
Rosie Henstock 04/Jun/16 Lead O/S
j.anstee 03/Jun/16 2nd O/S
Hidden 29/May/16 Lead
birks3746 29/May/16 2nd

Sam led, nice pitch

with Sam Davies
Col Kingshott 15/May/16 Lead
GeorgiePorgie1 15/May/16 2nd O/S

Col leading and Karen following (she struggled a lot). Continuation from Lazarus.

Hidden 15/May/16 2nd O/S
Pero 15/May/16 Lead
Nigel Bond 14/May/16 Lead
peachos 14/May/16 Lead O/S

Great route

with Jon
Jon Chilton 14/May/16 2nd
with peachos
Hidden 13/May/16 Lead O/S
Withey3 13/May/16 AltLd O/S
shed_hed 13/May/16 Solo O/S
Albanian 06/May/16 AltLd O/S
with Si Higham
bryce.dorin 24/Apr/16 2nd O/S
Hidden 24/Apr/16 Lead G/U
Dazluke2000 20/Apr/16 Lead
davebrox ??/2016 -
Tim Sparrow ??/2016 -
Mike Roger ??/2016 -
Hidden ?/Dec/15 Lead O/S
foobar123 ?/Dec/15 2nd
dansimkin 11/Oct/15 AltLd O/S
with Matt Malkin
Matt Harmon 04/Oct/15 Lead O/S
Anna duckett 04/Oct/15 2nd

Difficult move at the start

with Matt H
Alan James - UKC and UKH 27/Sep/15 2nd
kingborris 27/Sep/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 19/Sep/15 2nd dog
Hidden 17/Sep/15 2nd
JohnBotham 11/Sep/15 2nd
with Jeremy Windsor, Glynn Carter
Hidden 11/Sep/15 2nd
David_Gledson 09/Sep/15 Lead O/S
John Nuttall 08/Sep/15 Solo
andycash 18/Aug/15 Lead O/S
with Luca Celano
LJC 18/Aug/15 Lead O/S

On MIA training.

JonnyJT 15/Aug/15 2nd O/S

Nice route but incredibly awkward to start.

with John Crook
Hidden 12/Aug/15 Lead
BPaske 12/Aug/15 2nd
davenev 10/Aug/15 2nd O/S
with Graham
GrahamUney 10/Aug/15 Lead O/S
with davenev
gazj1986 09/Aug/15 AltLd
JDSwain 07/Aug/15 Lead O/S
with Rich Cannel
ads 09/Jul/15 AltLd
robhunt 03/Jul/15 Lead O/S
with Ellie
Marcin78 ?/Jul/15 AltLd
with Tomek
Ellie Hunt ?/Jul/15 2nd O/S
chris fox 28/Jun/15 Lead
kelliroberts3 27/Jun/15 Lead
Paul Baxter 27/Jun/15 2nd O/S
with Dave
matt1024 23/Jun/15 2nd
with Timmy C
odari 21/Jun/15 -
Neil Watson 20/Jun/15 Lead O/S

Nice little climb. Yes, start is a bit boulder but fun.

with Aidan
buxtoncoffeelover 16/Jun/15 2nd

Tom led this to finish off a great climb

tom_lewis89 16/Jun/15 Lead

Tough first move then good gear and progress!

Hidden 12/Jun/15 Solo O/S
JRJones 09/Jun/15 2nd rpt
Tom McCabe 09/Jun/15 Lead O/S
with Sam
rushy11111918 30/May/15 Lead
with Bud Roger Didby Tilton
Dave192939 23/May/15 2nd O/S
with Simon Allan
stratandrew 23/May/15 Lead rpt
with Bron Edwards
Bertbee 15/May/15 Lead
MichaelGallimore 26/Apr/15 2nd O/S
Goodstuff 26/Apr/15 Lead

Good route, very polished entry.

with Mike Gallimore
Hidden 22/Apr/15 AltLd O/S
Hidden 20/Apr/15 Lead O/S
GrahamUney 20/Apr/15 Lead O/S
with Emily Stachowiak
Tom Keaveny 18/Apr/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 18/Apr/15 Lead O/S
kivell 18/Apr/15 -
with P BAKER
Trev speariett 16/Apr/15 Lead
JendeHoxar 09/Apr/15 2nd

10th and final pitch of day 4 of PYB "Moving Out" course. brilliant day.

Charleston ?/Apr/15 2nd
Hidden ?/Apr/15 2nd O/S
Hidden ??/2015 -
scottywakefield 28/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
with Jeremy
JezzaCat 28/Sep/14 Lead O/S

Tricky start, gets easier after that

with Scott
Mike_Hayes 14/Sep/14 2nd
Hidden 13/Sep/14 Lead
Hidden 13/Sep/14 2nd dnf
SAF 13/Sep/14 Lead O/S
with Phil
Hidden 10/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
JamesLloyd 10/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
dashby 03/Sep/14 2nd
with Dave Prime
Tomasz Smith 02/Sep/14 2nd
Francis Hardy 02/Sep/14 Lead
robgixer 27/Aug/14 Lead O/S
Jack Manfredi 25/Aug/14 -
with Dad
Hidden 09/Aug/14 2nd rpt
Hamish777 07/Aug/14 2nd O/S

More like a HS route.

with Andrea
andrea83 07/Aug/14 Lead O/S


with Hamish
Hidden 05/Aug/14 2nd O/S
lithos 30/Jul/14 Lead

Steve had a go, then i took over, tricky start and few moves then good.

with steve j
StevieJ 30/Jul/14 2nd

Fell/decked at first lead attempt. Continued as second

with lithos
Hidden 28/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 28/Jul/14 2nd
ben.richards 26/Jul/14 2nd O/S
with Little Ben
Hidden 26/Jul/14 Lead O/S
crag_monster 23/Jul/14 Lead
Dan Kennedy 22/Jul/14 2nd O/S
fizzychewitt 20/Jul/14 Lead
with Martin
embob 18/Jul/14 Lead

Took me a while to commit to the first move, then felt like a good distance before the next piece of gear on slightly polished feet. Better to look at than climb :-)

with Alex
Hidden 18/Jul/14 2nd
Mark Kemball 15/Jul/14 Lead
with Bill Kemball
Motown 13/Jul/14 Solo O/S
lcullum7 11/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Jul/14 2nd O/S
origamib 08/Jul/14 2nd O/S
The Potato 07/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Pero 07/Jul/14 Lead
climbwhenready 05/Jul/14 2nd

One tricky protected move to get off the ground

with Ryan
jwhereat 01/Jul/14 -
LDJ 30/Jun/14 Lead
with Alfie
Hidden 29/Jun/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 29/Jun/14 2nd O/S
bantamdave 28/Jun/14 2nd O/S
with Rob Hunt, Nigel
Dave Musgrove 24/Jun/14 2nd
with Bob Larkin
timmyhobby 22/Jun/14 Lead O/S
hannahbannana 22/Jun/14 2nd
sgl 21/Jun/14 Lead
with Susie
Hidden 21/Jun/14 Lead O/S
londonoring 17/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Led this one, Rhys second. Good route, hard for a Severe and short. Saw the rescue helicopter fly below us and really close a couple of times. Good view from there.

weekendwarrior92 17/Jun/14 2nd
Hidden 16/Jun/14 2nd
nickdonohue 14/Jun/14 2nd
Hidden 14/Jun/14 2nd
Hidden 14/Jun/14 Lead
MBano 14/Jun/14 AltLd
Hidden 14/Jun/14 2nd
noemie5438 14/Jun/14 Lead O/S
with Marieke
landy813 31/May/14 2nd O/S
Adam Hill 21/May/14 2nd

After a polished start, a very nice pitch.

Wayne S 18/May/14 2nd
with Dale
D Berry 18/May/14 Lead O/S

Very tricky starting section.

with Wayne S
edmitchell 18/May/14 2nd O/S
with pyb course
Hidden 14/May/14 Lead
Rob Evans ?/May/14 Lead
Kazza91 ?/May/14 -
JackM92 24/Apr/14 Lead O/S
eburki1 20/Apr/14 Lead rpt
tlmarjot 19/Apr/14 AltLd O/S
with Ben Anderson
RachelP 18/Apr/14 2nd
Hidden 18/Apr/14 Lead
Cwallace 18/Apr/14 Lead
Jelly Mould Surfer 16/Apr/14 Lead O/S

Entry into groove is hard but protected. Buffed to a high sheen.

Joe Rudman 16/Apr/14 2nd O/S
Alex Riley 15/Apr/14 2nd O/S
with Matthew Williams
JRJones 14/Apr/14 2nd
with Rob Law
arandall 12/Apr/14 Lead O/S

Felt quite tricky getting into the groove

Wendy Watthews 11/Apr/14 2nd O/S
omaskrey 08/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Jodiaway 19/Mar/14 2nd
with Al
Hidden 10/Mar/14 2nd O/S
Si ??/2014 -
Hidden ??/2014 -
Allanfairfechan ??/2014 2nd
with Brian Molyneux, Jack Graham
SamHallam ??/2014 Lead
mike mo ??/2014 -
Snorfalorpagus 09/Nov/13 2nd dog

The first move is seriously desperate.

elyben 09/Nov/13 AltLd
Hidden 24/Oct/13 2nd
freemanTom 05/Oct/13 Lead O/S
with Mark Coupland
chris nutman ?/Oct/13 Lead O/S
Lumbering Oaf 30/Sep/13 Lead O/S

Slings for harness. Italian hitch for belaying. High pitched voice throughout.

tcrocker 30/Sep/13 2nd O/S
ianstevens 29/Sep/13 Lead O/S

Nice route, shame you can see your face in the start!

with Sam Wainwright
Hidden 29/Sep/13 2nd O/S
JamesWilliams 22/Sep/13 Solo rpt
eburki1 14/Sep/13 AltLd O/S
colin177 14/Sep/13 2nd
Hidden 26/Aug/13 Solo rpt
Albanian 26/Aug/13 AltLd O/S
with Lee
Hidden 25/Aug/13 Lead O/S
luke glaister 25/Aug/13 Lead rpt

Did this almost 2 years ago to the day. Found it really easy this time round. A fun route woth doing for the start alone.

Malt_Loaf 10/Aug/13 Lead O/S

Very slippy move to get into the groove (4b imo). Once in though it's never more than 4a after that. Nice route.

thomaspomfrett 10/Aug/13 2nd O/S
with Stu Mcinnes
app 09/Aug/13 2nd
colinthomson5 09/Aug/13 Lead O/S
Andysomething 07/Aug/13 2nd O/S
with Bruce Perry
tonto169 28/Jul/13 Lead
Roget 21/Jul/13 2nd O/S
with jim
Josiemc 19/Jul/13 2nd O/S

awesome wee move at the start of the climb.

MoWalker3 13/Jul/13 AltLd
with Rick
Jonners 13/Jul/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 06/Jul/13 Lead O/S
robbraby ?/Jul/13 Lead

Move to get into the grove is actually pretty nice. Slipped about 2 thirds of the way up the groove and nearly buggered off not paying attention.

with Steveo
Grassrob ?/Jul/13 Lead
CurlyStevo ?/Jul/13 2nd

I thought the move in to the crack was nice, not an desperate struggle as per the guide book. Part of a larger enchainment of tennis shoe, Javelin Buttress, Groove Above and Central Arete.

with Rob
Hidden 19/Jun/13 2nd
Hidden 10/Jun/13 2nd O/S
Ray Sparks 10/Jun/13 Lead

idwal integrale with 2 friends

with adam, mike b
joemallia 07/Jun/13 2nd O/S
Huffers69 02/Jun/13 2nd
Hidden 02/Jun/13 Lead O/S
Chris Murray ?/Jun/13 2nd
kitkat78 25/May/13 Lead O/S
with SteveM
Hidden 25/May/13 2nd O/S
SteveM 25/May/13 2nd
with Kat
Duncan Campbell 25/May/13 Lead O/S


with Jess
Steve Woollard 25/May/13 Lead
Jules 210681 17/May/13 AltLd
with Chris Forrest
Hidden 05/May/13 2nd
stratandrew 04/May/13 2nd

A one move wonder, but it's a pretty hard one especially with the polish. Easier with a longer reach.

with Colin Maddison
bsamo ?/May/13 -
Metalbear 05/Apr/13 2nd
with Matthew Brown, John James McEvoy
tim exley 18/Feb/13 Lead O/S

gnarly first moves

Tom Seccombe 18/Feb/13 2nd O/S
Andrew will wilson ??/2013 2nd
Sam Melville ??/2013 -
morgan91 01/Oct/12 -
Barrez 01/Oct/12 AltLd
jason reeve 01/Oct/12 Lead O/S

cool first move

Julesthe1st 29/Sep/12 AltLd O/S

As part of a big 'mountain day' link up

with Mike
bonelessivar 17/Sep/12 Lead O/S
with Andy
Hidden 15/Sep/12 Lead O/S
james.f.williamson 15/Sep/12 2nd
Hidden 15/Sep/12 Lead O/S
Hardonicus 15/Sep/12 2nd O/S

Alex lead after backing off the HVS crack line to the right.

with James W, Alex Thompson
Hidden 15/Sep/12 Lead O/S
SteveM 08/Sep/12 Solo
nick ferro 08/Sep/12 Lead O/S
with Oli Birkill
Hidden 01/Sep/12 2nd
Hidden 24/Aug/12 Lead
John Nuttall 11/Aug/12 Lead
with Kirsten
Pete Randall 11/Aug/12 AltLd O/S
with Ian Shaw
Hidden 11/Aug/12 2nd
Mr. K 11/Aug/12 Lead O/S

Clearly a VS 5a start and some!

with Steven Mount
kirsten 11/Aug/12 2nd

Can't say I loved the start!

with JohnN
Katherine Ross 11/Aug/12 2nd O/S

Backed off leading the start and it was pretty scary on second - very slippery! My first real route using back-and-footing.

cbeard 11/Aug/12 Lead O/S

First move very polished! I slipped off on first try

Hidden 11/Aug/12 2nd
Hidden 11/Aug/12 Lead O/S
RM199 22/Jul/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 21/Jul/12 2nd β
pdamann 21/Jul/12 Lead O/S

Fun start with full pack!

with N Leathers
David Kay 11/Jul/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 11/Jul/12 2nd O/S
Moritz L 11/Jul/12 2nd
with David Kirsfelds, pete
lost.arrow 07/Jul/12 AltLd
with Stu Sherwood
nik king 07/Jul/12 AltLd
with Richard
George_Surf 20/Jun/12 2nd O/S

Really polished start! Well protected though and the difficult decrease with height. Good fun climb, we both enjoyed this one. Must be death in the wet...

with Mike Roberts
runestone 19/Jun/12 2nd
Hidden 19/Jun/12 Lead
Tarquin 19/Jun/12 2nd
Hidden 28/May/12 Lead
Ray Sparks 28/May/12 2nd
with mike L
kristinawe 28/May/12 2nd
MikeLell 27/May/12 Lead O/S

Led in approach shoes. Stiff start.

with Lee Harrison
JamesWilliams 27/May/12 Lead O/S

dont get sucked into the crack stay wide

Big Lee 27/May/12 2nd O/S

Horrific polish at the start of the route. Could have easily slipped off this despite climbing a number of grades below my normal. Surely HS??

Hidden 27/May/12 2nd
Peter Lovell 26/May/12 2nd
Tony Holdsworth 25/May/12 2nd rpt
with Dave Law
Hidden 25/May/12 Lead O/S
Danjones 12/May/12 Lead O/S

Tricky entry into groove, straight forwards afterwards.

with Steve Keys
Hidden 12/May/12 Lead
j.hubbard 12/May/12 2nd O/S
john_ni 12/May/12 2nd
with Dave Wheeler
Hidden 05/May/12 Lead O/S
Amazoniangirl 05/May/12 2nd
climbing son 05/May/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 27/Apr/12 2nd O/S
gd303uk 28/Mar/12 2nd O/S

yep a tuff start and for the value of a S good tho.

nick_curtis01 27/Mar/12 Lead dog

Very hard start to this Severe, but once past the start I became more confident on my way up finishing with a very long run out at top!

with James Mackey
Jones_88 25/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Alex Munnery 25/Mar/12 2nd O/S
with Emily Bridger, Toby Farnworth
williamsd79 24/Mar/12 Lead O/S
robinmuzette 18/Mar/12 2nd O/S
with Phil Wilkinson
GermanAlex 25/Feb/12 Lead O/S

"gain the groove with difficulty" yeah no kidding

with Dan
Hidden ??/2012 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2012 -
james chesmer ??/2012 Lead O/S
Sam Melville ??/2012 -
Lucylou19 ??/2012 2nd
alan moore ??/2012 -
Andy_B39 06/Nov/11 Lead rpt
with Phil Wilkinson
Andy_B39 05/Nov/11 2nd O/S
with Phil Wilkinson
onlyfoddington 05/Nov/11 Lead β

Was shown how to do the first move, which was useful, though was more sustained than I expected - perhaps just down to cold hands though

luke glaister 16/Oct/11 Lead O/S

They need a swear box at the start! Such a laugh.. Take a big hex with u.

with pete blackbern, casey johns
casey johns 16/Oct/11 2nd dog

great move at the start, took me 1 fall and a couple of restarts to get it,great fun tho

Nick Rundall 01/Oct/11 Lead O/S
with Nick Pass, Jon Taylor
Ann S 01/Oct/11 2nd
Hidden 01/Oct/11 2nd O/S
Microwired22 01/Oct/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 13/Sep/11 Lead O/S
hawkins321 23/Aug/11 2nd
lizzyb 15/Aug/11 2nd β

Would hate to be a severe leader doing this route. The desperate start rates more like a vs for first few moves, then polish in the crack means next metre or two feel hs but after that its nice and easy. Can fly up it after the initial struggle.

Hidden 15/Aug/11 Lead
Gerallt Owain 13/Aug/11 Lead O/S
with Mick
Ewan Russell 29/Jul/11 2nd O/S
with rostam
scotty h 27/Jul/11 2nd β

Desperate start alright, and polished.

with Steve Hammond
uremac83 24/Jul/11 2nd
with Gavin Clifford
mikespooner 23/Jul/11 2nd O/S

Seconded joe's fabulous barefoot performance!

Hidden 23/Jul/11 Lead O/S
strudles 15/Jul/11 Lead O/S

I think this would have been a good climb if it's wasn't polished and raining hard!

a13x 14/Jul/11 Lead rpt
Hidden 14/Jul/11 Lead
Hidden 11/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Dibdawg 11/Jul/11 2nd O/S
with Mark Sheridan
Hidden 11/Jul/11 2nd
Hidden 03/Jul/11 Lead
brenzy83 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S

tricky corner but fun way to finnish

SamStokes 02/Jul/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 28/Jun/11 AltLd
Jillybean 28/Jun/11 2nd

poorly finger :(

with Martyn
Noodles 28/Jun/11 Lead O/S
bigdan050 27/Jun/11 2nd

emmit got all my gear stuck so had to abb off and get it! with a bergen!!

with emmit
RossT 27/Jun/11 AltLd
Hidden 18/Jun/11 -
TCarrick 11/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S
climbinmunkey 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S

The bottom is so polished it feels like 4c and VS

with Helen
Hidden 04/Jun/11 Lead O/S
prwalker 04/Jun/11 Lead
with Ali Hutton
Hidden 03/Jun/11 Lead O/S
Lev 03/Jun/11 2nd O/S
carlh 31/May/11 Lead O/S

A good day out in slightly damp conditions to start. Rock dried through day. Linked the three routes with Ben Graham.

Tom Livingstone 25/May/11 AltLd rpt
mrchewy 06/May/11 Solo O/S
Hidden 04/May/11 Lead O/S
LukeyG 01/May/11 AltLd
C-nunez 01/May/11 AltLd
ceaddiso 30/Apr/11 2nd
with Conan
Conan 30/Apr/11 Lead
with Clare A
Hidden 24/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Apr/11 2nd
Hidden 23/Apr/11 2nd
carl_123 23/Apr/11 2nd O/S
malc 22/Apr/11 2nd rpt
with Jimmy Mc, Martin Hewes
Hidden 21/Apr/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 21/Apr/11 -
Boe Jailey 20/Apr/11 AltLd
with Tim Bailey
James Worthington 20/Apr/11 Lead
with Joe
The Ivanator 19/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Awkward start for the grade.

with Sean
Pete Nugent 18/Apr/11 2nd rpt
with Matt Gordon
Dan Lane 18/Apr/11 Lead O/S

nowhere near as hard as the guidebook made it sound.

Hidden 16/Apr/11 AltLd
turbojames 12/Apr/11 Lead
with andy gardner
Andy Peak 1 12/Apr/11 2nd
with James Bradley
sambosanquet101 10/Apr/11 2nd
Chris Manasseh 10/Apr/11 Lead
with Andy Gee
Hidden 10/Apr/11 Lead
Hidden 09/Apr/11 2nd O/S
lindsam 08/Apr/11 Lead
joem 06/Apr/11 Lead O/S
rg1976 02/Apr/11 Lead O/S
with squicky
squicky 02/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with rg1976
will moy 22/Mar/11 2nd

tricky for severe however very well protected

AMarchant 19/Mar/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 19/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Chris M Thomas 19/Mar/11 2nd

Maurisio did very well for his first severe lead

with Maurisio
Mancunianimport 17/Mar/11 AltLd
Hidden 14/Mar/11 AltLd O/S
stephenarnold 01/Mar/11 AltLd O/S

I bit tricky to get started but good afterwards.

PAJames ??/2011 -
Jono Graham ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
mattfarr ??/2011 2nd
with Liam
PAJames ??/2011 -
Slarti B 25/Sep/10 -

hard start

with Natalio
gazbonutter 04/Sep/10 Lead O/S


Hidden 04/Sep/10 2nd
Hidden 30/Aug/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 30/Aug/10 Lead
RHarding 21/Aug/10 2nd
with Matt Snell
sgl0jd 21/Aug/10 Solo
j4kub 16/Aug/10 Lead
with claire gibson
mattshort 14/Aug/10 2nd O/S
Andrew will wilson 09/Aug/10 Lead O/S

nice little route,just enough gear placements

Hidden 25/Jul/10 AltLd
mzchambers 06/Jul/10 2nd O/S
with George Porter, Laim Jay
Ashhampson 30/Jun/10 2nd O/S
Ashhampson 30/Jun/10 2nd O/S
Skullfire 28/Jun/10 Lead O/S
with Mat Mitchell
Savlon 27/Jun/10 2nd
with Paul Lee
hellboundblr 26/Jun/10 2nd
with LCCC
Hidden 26/Jun/10 2nd rpt
Hidden 26/Jun/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 20/Jun/10 Lead
gilbert 19/Jun/10 Lead O/S

slightly tense lead but lovely climb

with Andy Holder
stuart34 17/Jun/10 2nd
cayteye 17/Jun/10 2nd
with tradguy
Tim Ducker 17/Jun/10 Lead O/S
tradguy 17/Jun/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Jun/10 Lead O/S
John Roe 14/Jun/10 2nd
with Will Marshall
SteveHi 12/Jun/10 2nd

Very polished. Used some small holds on the left wall. Top half is much easier.

with Gareth Rose, Mark Challoner
Hidden 12/Jun/10 2nd dog
Hidden 12/Jun/10 2nd O/S
cmsg 10/Jun/10 2nd O/S
with Llewelyn Thomas
Hidden 05/Jun/10 Lead O/S
Conan 05/Jun/10 Lead O/S

Great route with obvious moves and good pro. Spot on for the grade.

with Dom Hall
stevethomas 04/Jun/10 Lead
with Kevin
Hidden 04/Jun/10 Lead dog
Hidden 31/May/10 AltLd O/S
Milne 30/May/10 Lead O/S

found this desperate for grade.

with sarah.
Hidden 30/May/10 2nd O/S
Michelle Mitchell 28/May/10 2nd O/S
with Stuart James Honick
prdaum 23/May/10 2nd O/S
with Dave, PYB
edmitchell 16/May/10 Lead β
Hidden 15/May/10 2nd
wirralclimber1984 15/May/10 AltLd O/S
with james
liz j ?/May/10 AltLd O/S
with Shaun Williams
hedgehog77 27/Apr/10 Lead
eastfinchley pete 15/Apr/10 2nd

follow on from Ord Route and Lazarus - magic day out - although freezing in shadow all day

with Phoebe and Chris
Hidden 11/Apr/10 2nd O/S
Paul Boggis ??/2010 Lead
Hidden ??/2010 -
edmitchell ??/2010 Lead O/S
cymjt ??/2010 -
Phil PBC ??/2010 2nd O/S
Munzy 12/Dec/09 Lead O/S
Jimb0 26/Sep/09 2nd
with Ander
Ander 26/Sep/09 Lead
with Jimb0
snakes77 18/Sep/09 2nd O/S

my favorite climb to date this !! this is exactly why i love cragging. we've looked at this before but my leader could swing into the groove, (not the song) not on this occasion! he made it in after a few attempts, then began to make some rather strange noises! ha ha. best 26m ive done, trouble is we needed more ! maybe grey slab??

with Monkey1
birbeck 13/Sep/09 2nd dog
with Richard Heard
Hidden ?/Sep/09 2nd
monkey1 ?/Sep/09 Lead rpt

Despite entrance to the groove taking afew attemps, got there in the end (gave up on this climb 3 months back). Once in the groove there's a crucial gear placement that marks the start much easier things ahead. Pleasant route (after some initial cursing!)

with Snakes77
Lizard 22/Aug/09 2nd
with Tim Roberts
purplemonkey 22/Aug/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 02/Aug/09 Lead O/S
asmith37 02/Aug/09 2nd rpt
masa-alpin 25/Jul/09 2nd O/S

Thought the mid-section also warrants 4b.

Pixie-Andy 25/Jul/09 Lead
with Masa
matt.woodfield 24/Jul/09 Lead
staceyjg 11/Jul/09 Lead O/S

And with Barra, slipped on first move only 3 inches from the ground, started again and completed cleanly in rock shoes. Barra completed cleanly in approach shoes, Chris couldnt make the move due to boots and height (not necessarily in that order) so instead of replacing boots for rock shoes, he replaced his boots for bare feet!! Stubborn or what! Last route of enchainment, before heavens openened and the rain came in! Wet walk back to the car... not barefoot I hasten to add.

Hidden 14/Jun/09 2nd
Mark Reeves 14/Jun/09 Lead
Graeme Hammond 13/Jun/09 Lead O/S

Not nearly as desprate as the guide makes out, just a couple of technical layback moves off the obvious pockets on the left wal to start, nice above

with Pete aka Dad
willson 03/Jun/09 Lead
with chris
Hidden 02/Jun/09 2nd β
sgl0jd 02/Jun/09 Lead
with Luke
Hidden 31/May/09 2nd
alwyn101 28/May/09 2nd O/S
Keith Jones 28/May/09 2nd
with ali
Hidden 28/May/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/May/09 AltLd
Hidden 23/May/09 Lead rpt
donkster 23/May/09 2nd rpt
with DaveNW
asmith37 25/Apr/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Apr/09 Lead
colina 19/Apr/09 2nd dog

very difficult start,managed to lay away and pull onto the start where it wasnt too bad from then on

with martin w
Hidden 19/Apr/09 2nd O/S
fizzychewitt 19/Apr/09 Lead
with Dave
@ndy 11/Apr/09 Lead
with Sheila
Hjort 05/Apr/09 2nd O/S
with Serinde Van Wijk
Sardien 05/Apr/09 Lead O/S
emlynroberts 05/Apr/09 Lead

Struggled getting off ground, SAJ did it so had another go, but did it a different way than he had.

with S A Jones
KarlH 29/Mar/09 Lead O/S

Tough climb, seemed a long way before i could get a 2nd bit of pro in. Had a bit of Elvis leg going on.

with Matt Lunn
MarkFoster ??/2009 -
Hidden 27/Sep/08 2nd
smolders 27/Sep/08 Lead O/S
with Jess
Hidden 30/Aug/08 Lead
Twisty 30/Aug/08 2nd O/S

A right pig! The route- not Jools!

with Rayan & Jools
troym 30/Aug/08 Lead O/S
with Clare Pickup and Rowan Midwood
rich_greeny 28/Aug/08 2nd O/S

Very wet, making the start tricky. Ballsy lead by Toby!

with Toby Pitts-Tucker
@ndy 22/Aug/08 Lead O/S
RCrockford 22/Aug/08 2nd
with Andy C
Hidden 22/Jul/08 Lead O/S
lost.arrow 20/Jul/08 -
with Stu Sherwood
PanzerHanzler 19/Jul/08 Lead O/S
with Matt
kleinej 14/Jun/08 Lead rpt
with Matt
troym 08/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with Sean Redmond
sgl0jd 07/Jun/08 Lead
with Steve Hobbs
The Bad Cough ?/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with Lee Bonner
b.hayley ?/Jun/08 Lead O/S
a_simecek ?/Jun/08 2nd
with Andy Townsend, Alex Dyhouse
Keith Jones 30/May/08 Lead
with ali, David
adam06 24/May/08 Lead

great finish to a great day :) don't see how tennis shoe has 3 stars an this doesn't...

with Seb Tazzyman
hils theaker 24/May/08 Lead
with Sarah
dave4430 13/May/08 Lead O/S
with rob short
Mersea 09/May/08 Lead

Time to work out start, really pleased

with Dangerous
Hidden 08/May/08 2nd
Hidden 03/May/08 2nd O/S
peter myers ?/May/08 Lead O/S
with Simon Bennet
Hidden 10/Jan/08 AltLd O/S
Adam Booth 06/Jan/08 2nd O/S

Alpine Style

Ed Booth 06/Jan/08 Lead
daveagriff ??/2008 Lead
Hidden ??/2008 Lead
Hidden ??/2008 AltLd
Em66 22/Oct/07 Lead O/S
with Mat, Ru
chriswitts1 20/Oct/07 2nd
with Jon Smith
Hidden 07/Oct/07 2nd
Calder 07/Oct/07 2nd
with Mark
mikelaing ?/Oct/07 Lead
with Pete Andrews
Hidden ?/Oct/07 Lead
tom.e 07/Sep/07 Lead O/S
with Claire
mickJ 08/Aug/07 Lead
with paul r
mikehenesy ?/Aug/07 AltLd O/S

Groove a bit tricky for slippery wet fish Tracy. I of course was as secure a sticky bud on a woolie pully.

with Tracy
Ben Sidsaph 09/Jun/07 2nd O/S
with Andy Beverly
Carly 01/Jun/07 AltLd O/S
with sophie
Hidden 01/Jun/07 AltLd O/S
coffeepot 20/May/07 2nd

Tried to led out of the sever, however it was mightly slippery and realy nasty so Paul thankfully took over. No stars for you, groove above.

with jelaby
paddygoodwin 05/May/07 Lead
with Jason
kleinej 05/May/07 2nd
with Patrick
robertporter 28/Apr/07 Lead
Hidden 22/Apr/07 Lead O/S
aturner99 21/Apr/07 2nd
with P Manuel
lighty 21/Apr/07 2nd O/S
with Robby b
five 15/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with TW
Keith Jones 14/Apr/07 Lead
with David
Hidden 02/Apr/07 2nd O/S
JHPritch ?/Apr/07 2nd O/S
with Ifan
Ifan ?/Mar/07 Lead O/S
with John Pritchard
Ifan ?/Mar/07 Lead O/S
with Kate
Hidden 03/Feb/07 2nd O/S
Hidden 03/Feb/07 AltLd O/S
robo84 ??/2007 AltLd
fran04 ??/2007 Lead
chris wyatt ??/2007 -
Hidden ??/2007 -
Anna duckett ??/2007 2nd
with Leo Nathan, Dave King
Nobster ??/2007 Lead
with Glen Bloomer
timmy-ts ??/2007 -
Rjukan ??/2007 -
Diggler ??/2007 Lead O/S
Hidden 05/Nov/06 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Oct/06 2nd
Joe Marsh 17/Sep/06 Lead O/S
with Charlie
tom_1985 ?/Sep/06 Lead

Hard start!

with Krystina Common
lithos 28/Jul/06 2nd

nice, swkard layback start then easy

Hidden 28/Jul/06 2nd O/S
Matthew Higginson 20/Jul/06 Lead

Superb little route lovely continuation of Original Route, tricky start

with Mark Chaplin
IOAN D 18/Jul/06 Solo O/S
with me my self and I
Harry Ellis ?/Jul/06 -
with Trefor Hughes
Chriswallis2 17/Jun/06 Lead O/S
with Jim
gripped01 ?/Jun/06 Lead O/S
with RAFMA
SteveJ30 ?/Jun/06 -
featuresforfeet 29/Apr/06 AltLd rpt
with Simon & Dave
stuart100 28/Apr/06 2nd O/S
with Gary Stoker
rockmadlad ??/2006 Lead O/S
dan gibson ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 AltLd
Ian McNeill ??/2006 -
beardy mike ??/2006 Lead O/S
with Miles Grout
Hidden ??/2006 AltLd
KeithW 04/Sep/05 Lead O/S
with Mike Nuttall
Different Steve ?/Jul/05 2nd O/S
with Simon Curtis
sixties 18/Jun/05 Lead
with hrd
duncana 08/Jun/05 Lead
with Sara, Mindy
Rampikino 14/May/05 Lead
with Liz, Clare & Tom
Hidden ?/Apr/05 Lead
Luke Brooks ?/Apr/05 Lead
dan_o_b ??/2005 Lead O/S
John Kettle ??/2005 Lead
featuresforfeet ?/May/04 Lead rpt
with Monty
ChrisBrooke 24/Apr/04 2nd
with John Inkpen
malc 13/Apr/04 Lead O/S
with ??
Rob Davies 01/Aug/03 Lead rpt
with David Kinniburgh
kato'sdad 28/Jun/03 Lead
RobSimmo 28/Jun/03 2nd O/S
Zoomer 21/Jun/03 Lead
with Ian Lyons
timreynolds 13/Jun/03 Lead
Hammy 07/Jun/03 AltLd
with Iain Gallagher
frost ?/May/03 Solo
Hidden ?/Jan/03 -
Hidden ??/2003 -
Derek Ryden 20/Aug/02 Solo
karly54 06/Aug/02 -
with Peter Goodwin
PeakOutdoor 03/Aug/02 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/02 Lead
Mike Parker ?/Aug/02 AltLd O/S
Phil West 23/Jun/02 2nd O/S
with Shaun Walby
shaun walby 23/Jun/02 Lead O/S
with Phil West
caradoc 22/Jun/02 Lead rpt
with MikeW
shaun walby ?/Jun/02 Lead O/S
with Phil West
Hidden 06/May/02 2nd
Hidden ??/2002 Lead
unfit ??/2002 -
with dave k
caradoc 27/Oct/01 Lead O/S
with MikeW
Alaric 12/Oct/01 2nd
with Syd F
Jacob Ram 05/Aug/01 -
akhughes ?/Jun/01 Lead
Rog Wilko ?/May/01 Lead
with Debbie Wilkinson
Rob Oram 04/Aug/00 Lead O/S
with Tom Asbridge
csalvage 10/May/00 Lead rpt
with Brian Molyneux
oscaig ??/2000 Lead O/S

Nice climbing and easy enough if you can get off the ground to start!

with Steve Reeves
zero six ??/2000 Lead O/S
Ed Booth ??/2000 Lead O/S
Stone Muppet ??/2000 -
Hidden 19/Jun/99 Lead O/S
Simon Caldwell ??/1999 AltLd O/S
with Mike
nigehughes ?/Feb/98 2nd
with Ed (wee Ed) Jones
chrisrogers ?/Sep/97 Lead O/S
with Steve J
Hidden 06/Aug/97 2nd
stokienomad 24/Jul/97 Lead
Chris Murray 05/Jul/97 Lead
with Richard Bower
Hidden 18/Aug/96 2nd
Bob M 04/Jul/96 AltLd
with Chris Bristow
iskra2000 14/Jun/96 Lead
with Duncan Hornby
Paul Boardman ??/1996 AltLd O/S
with Iain Boardman
liabilityliz 02/Aug/95 2nd
with Dave Instructor, Martin
brady 02/Jul/95 2nd
with with John, Eve and Chris
Hidden 10/May/95 Lead
Maarten2 13/Apr/95 Lead

continuing above Original Route on Holy Tree Wall

with Kitti
Hidden ??/1995 Lead O/S
Bullybones ??/1995 -
Ian Robertson ??/1995 -
Ched ??/1995 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
Hidden 17/Jul/94 Lead
kennylind ??/1994 2nd O/S
jlury ??/1994 Lead
with Jim Auger
Hidden ??/1994 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Aug/93 Lead
charlesmfrench 27/Jun/93 Solo O/S
with Stan
DavPk ??/1993 Lead
with Gareth Wood
Rob Davies 03/May/92 Lead
with Mick Moss
goi.ashmore 26/Oct/91 Lead O/S
with Ian Hosley
Hidden ??/1991 Lead O/S
Ian Archer 12/May/90 Lead
with Robert Mirfin
Hidden ??/1990 Lead
AlanLittle ?/Sep/89 Lead
with Tom Dillon
Hidden 27/Mar/89 Lead
Iain Thow 13/May/88 2nd
with Steve Ball
Iain Thow 14/Apr/88 Lead rpt
with Steve Ball
biggianthead 19/Jun/87 -
with M
babymoac ??/1987 -
nigehughes ?/Aug/84 Solo
Hidden 12/Jul/80 AltLd
Robmwatt ??/1980 -
Hammy 26/Aug/78 AltLd
with Jonathon Stacey
telemark ??/1978 -
with Jim Sutherland
Bolt Phobia 30/May/77 Lead
mikej 21/Aug/76 Lead
with Brian Norris
Mark Kemball ?/Aug/75 Lead
with Dave "Hamish" Wilkinson
jon 21/Jun/75 Lead
with Elaine
Simon cook ??/1975 -
Hidden 22/Aug/73 AltLd
RichardMc 19/May/73 AltLd
with Betty Seifert
Bolt Phobia 29/Apr/73 Lead
John Stenhouse ?/Sep/72 AltLd
with John Offord
kjacks ??/1964 2nd
with Dave Peers
uphillnow ?/Jul/61 Lead

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