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18m.

Rockfax Description
Excellent and reachy. Follow Legacy (or better Big Brother) to the middle of its traverse then cruise up the centre of the wall to finish up a short crack. The Direct Start is a stretchy E1 6a protected by small opposition wires. Remember, where there's a will, there's a way. © Rockfax

FA. Paul Nunn (1 sling) 1967.

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ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List, World Graded List, Moorland Grit - The Essential Selection (Over The Moors), Over the Moors 3 Star Magical Mystery Tour, Definitive *** Peak Grit

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User Date Notes
Jon Stewart 12 Aug, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Starting from Big Brother and traversing the break left makes a better start with a fair bit of independent climbing which is steep and pumpy, and leads straight into the crux of Legacy. A fully fledged E1*** that way.
βeta?
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βeta: Starting from Big Brother and traversing the break left makes a better start with a fair bit of independent climbing which is steep and pumpy, and leads straight into the crux of Legacy. A fully fledged E1*** that way.
Ropeboy 9 Aug, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: The direct start is extremely height dependant, when done normally a very delightfull route. Probably low in the grade.
βeta?
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βeta: The direct start is extremely height dependant, when done normally a very delightfull route. Probably low in the grade.
Mark Davies PK 9 Jun, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: not really sure this is E1. felt right at HVS
βeta?
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βeta: not really sure this is E1. felt right at HVS
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Logged Ascents

User Date Style Notes & Partners
Hidden 14 Jun Lead O/S
Dan Arkle u 2 Jun Lead O/S
with Jo
with Jo
deacondeacon u 30 May Lead O/S
John Jefferies 30 May 2nd O/S
Andy Stewart2 30 May Lead
RachaelH 20 May 2nd
with JMarkW
with JMarkW
Hidden 20 May Lead O/S
Si dH 26 Aug, 2019 Lead O/S
with Markus Wright, Olly
with Markus Wright, Olly
Markus Wright 26 Aug, 2019 TR dnf Tried the direct start after Si had lead the normal start. It felt desperate and a big reach!!
with Si dH
Tried the direct start after Si had lead the normal start. It felt desperate and a big reach!!
with Si dH
phil64 20 Apr, 2019 Lead O/S Quality.....really satisfyingly good grit.
with matt dean
Quality.....really satisfyingly good grit.
with matt dean
Hidden 5 Aug, 2018 TR
mrphilipoldham 1 Aug, 2018 Lead O/S Felt tired before getting on this, and very nearly didn’t. But I’m so glad that I did! Brilliant, good balanced climbing all the way up. Didn’t find it thuggish as per OtM in the slightest. Oh, and you know when you're not the biggest fan of spiders, and there's a big bodied long legged thing seemingly following you up it..?
Felt tired before getting on this, and very nearly didn’t. But I’m so glad that I did! Brilliant, good balanced climbing all the way up. Didn’t find it thuggish as per OtM in the slightest. Oh, and you know when you're not the biggest fan of spiders, and there's a big bodied long legged thing seemingly following you up it..?
Bradbury 7 Jul, 2018 2nd O/S Via legacy
with Phil Baxter
Via legacy
with Phil Baxter
julesmckim 1 Jul, 2018 2nd O/S varied and surprising
with paul jenkinson
varied and surprising
with paul jenkinson
jimbonfire 29 Jun, 2018 Lead O/S More delicate than thuggery as the description suggests. Vertical crack is flared so lay backed. Good & worth 3 stars
with TT
More delicate than thuggery as the description suggests. Vertical crack is flared so lay backed. Good & worth 3 stars
with TT
Stoney Boy u 28 Jun, 2018 2nd O/S
with Clare Reading, Rick Scott
with Clare Reading, Rick Scott
steve_gibbs 19 May, 2018 TR O/S
George Frisby 19 May, 2018 TR dog Great moves leaving legacy, but found the very top slopers terrible. Hopefully cleaned it up slightly too.
Great moves leaving legacy, but found the very top slopers terrible. Hopefully cleaned it up slightly too.
Owen Johnson 19 May, 2018 TR O/S
john lynch 7 Jul, 2017 Lead O/S Classic grit in the middle of a nice walk with the folks.
Classic grit in the middle of a nice walk with the folks.
Bethan May Davies 7 Jul, 2017 2nd
No? Yes! 20 Jun, 2017 Lead Found rounded top moves definitely 5B - a pre brushing might have helped
Found rounded top moves definitely 5B - a pre brushing might have helped
Hidden 20 Jun, 2017 2nd
LBrown 17 Aug, 2016 Lead O/S
Graeme Hammond 23 Jul, 2016 2nd rpt + 2nd 01/08/18 with Phil, 27/5/2020 with Neil C
+ 2nd 01/08/18 with Phil, 27/5/2020 with Neil C
Jim Slater 23 Jul, 2016 Lead rpt
Ahab 7 Jun, 2016 Lead O/S
danm 7 May, 2016 2nd Nails for HVS - especially when green and scrittly early in the season. Great moves past the unfriendly vertical crack section.
with Tidy John
Nails for HVS - especially when green and scrittly early in the season. Great moves past the unfriendly vertical crack section.
with Tidy John
R0bbie 8 Aug, 2015 2nd
with Taba
with Taba
Hidden 8 Aug, 2015 Lead dnf
mrteale 13 Jul, 2014 Lead O/S
with MrBIond
with MrBIond
MrBIond 13 Jul, 2014 2nd O/S
with mrteale
with mrteale
Hidden 13 Jun, 2014 Lead
nimajneb 14 Jul, 2013 Lead O/S
Albachoss 14 Jul, 2013 2nd
kermit_uk 9 Jun, 2013 2nd O/S
with Neil
with Neil
mark20 9 Jun, 2013 Lead O/S
Frank the Husky ??, 2013 -
Boy 22 Jul, 2012 Lead Top break covered in 5mm of green jelly!
with Nathan Lee
Top break covered in 5mm of green jelly!
with Nathan Lee
SteveHi 22 Jul, 2012 2nd O/S
with Mark Challoner
with Mark Challoner
jamesgodwin64 27 May, 2012 Lead dnf nails dan went up came down left gear in, i went up clipping gear and got to the vertical crack and then bam no go couldnt reach the move from safe footing and didnt trust the higher foot so down climbed.
nails dan went up came down left gear in, i went up clipping gear and got to the vertical crack and then bam no go couldnt reach the move from safe footing and didnt trust the higher foot so down climbed.
Dan Lane 27 May, 2012 Lead dnf Would someone care to enlighten me on how to get up the thing?
Would someone care to enlighten me on how to get up the thing?
burto 3 Jul, 2011 Lead O/S
with alan, malc
with alan, malc
Hidden 5 May, 2011 Lead O/S
Rich Guest 5 May, 2011 Lead O/S Started up Big Brother and therefore found it hard switching as I was ever so slightly knackered from trying to reach THAT hold, umpteen times
Started up Big Brother and therefore found it hard switching as I was ever so slightly knackered from trying to reach THAT hold, umpteen times
philboy 31 Aug, 2010 Lead β First E1 - get in
with bisanth
First E1 - get in
with bisanth
Alaina 11 Aug, 2010 2nd O/S
Hidden 11 Aug, 2010 Lead O/S
Graeme Hammond 24 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
Jim Slater 24 Jul, 2010 2nd dog
chrisbussell 6 Jul, 2010 2nd
with Tim O'Neill
with Tim O'Neill
mjeffery 3 Jul, 2010 Lead O/S
Hidden 4 Jun, 2010 AltLd
stuckonarock 25 Jul, 2009 2nd dog Found the first move nails! Came off three times before using a handily positioned shoulder to stand on. Rest of the route was fine.
with Matthew
Found the first move nails! Came off three times before using a handily positioned shoulder to stand on. Rest of the route was fine.
with Matthew
coombsy 5 Jul, 2009 Lead O/S
with Rich G Neil D
with Rich G Neil D
mic_b u 30 Jun, 2009 Lead O/S
with Michelle
with Michelle
Dan Arkle u ??, 2009 Lead
Pete Graham 4 Jul, 2008 Lead
with James Fleming
with James Fleming
daveagriff ??, 2008 Lead
Hidden 12 Sep, 2007 Solo O/S
HimTiggins 11 Aug, 2007 2nd O/S
with John, Paul
with John, Paul
Coel Hellier u 3 Jul, 2006 Lead
Jon Read 2 Jul, 2006 Lead O/S
with Debs
with Debs
ArnaudG ??, 2006 -
UKB Shark 4 Sep, 2005 2nd O/S
with John Codling
with John Codling
cem 6 Jun, 2004 Lead O/S
with Liam Mark, Rod Strachan
with Liam Mark, Rod Strachan
Jonathan Lagoe - UKC ? Jun, 2004 Lead O/S
with Andy Hyslop
with Andy Hyslop
Hidden 3 Aug, 2003 2nd
Hidden ? Aug, 2003 Lead O/S
Phill Mitch ??, 2002 Lead O/S
with john d
with john d
phardman 21 Jul, 2001 Lead O/S
Mark Davies PK ??, 2001 Lead O/S
Gordon Stainforth 10 Jul, 1999 TR 5B crux is hard.
5B crux is hard.
Martin Bennett 26 Jun, 1999 -
with Phil
with Phil
Hidden 9 Aug, 1998 2nd
nige ? Aug, 1997 Lead
with john buckley
with john buckley
chris sm ? Jun, 1997 Lead O/S
with Jon Stevens
with Jon Stevens
tlr 17 Jul, 1996 2nd
with Sarah Harrison
with Sarah Harrison
Martin Bennett 2 Jul, 1995 -
with Cec
with Cec
Hidden 6 May, 1995 Lead
Neil McA u 27 Jun, 1994 Lead O/S midged off, ran away
with Nick Marriot
midged off, ran away
with Nick Marriot
roncaves 4 Jul, 1993 2nd
with Ian Wadsworth
with Ian Wadsworth
Hidden ? Jun, 1992 Lead O/S
Roget 4 Aug, 1991 Lead O/S
with chris jones, Jonathan T
with chris jones, Jonathan T
CLH387 25 Apr, 1987 -
Michael Hood u 10 Jun, 1984 Lead O/S
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Style of Ascent
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Route of Interest

Sunset Creek

Grade: E1 5b ***
(Wildcat)