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1. Jake Kasdan's 1998 film "Zero Effect". Absolutely superb.
In reply to Col: great movie, but it wasnt straight to video - I saw it at our local cinema.
Leningrad Cowboys Go America is my entry - very surreal and silly, reduces me to giggles every time.
Leningrad Cowboys Go America is my entry - very surreal and silly, reduces me to giggles every time.
In reply to Psychopathic_Barbie:
I didn't, as for some reason they chose to show it only in the 6pm-ish slot, so I can't get back from work in time
> great movie, but it wasnt straight to video - I saw it at our local cinema.
I didn't, as for some reason they chose to show it only in the 6pm-ish slot, so I can't get back from work in time
Nick Tarmey's Living For The Weekend.
In reply to Simon Caldwell: On Channel 4 next sunday night
In reply to CENSORED:
You could have told me that before I bought the DVD. Mind you it was only £3.99
> (In reply to Simon Caldwell) On Channel 4 next sunday night
You could have told me that before I bought the DVD. Mind you it was only £3.99
In reply to Simon Caldwell: well worth getting the video. I loved the original version, and worried what hollywood would do to it, but its really good. And George Clooney is always worth an ogle.
In reply to Simon Caldwell: well worth getting the video. I loved the original version, and worried what hollywood would do to it, but its really good. And George Clooney is always worth an ogle.
In reply to gourd:
Mike Judge, the creator of Beavis and Butthead and King of the HIll, made Office Space. I think it's popular enough, tbh. It was only ever destined for "cult status" which it's got. I think Ricky Gervais must have been inspired a little bit by it. It is an absolute gem.
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> Office Space. Don't know who made it but it's an underrated classic.
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> Office Space. Don't know who made it but it's an underrated classic.
Mike Judge, the creator of Beavis and Butthead and King of the HIll, made Office Space. I think it's popular enough, tbh. It was only ever destined for "cult status" which it's got. I think Ricky Gervais must have been inspired a little bit by it. It is an absolute gem.
In reply to Kenny: I loved the original 'The Vanishing'. However, whenever I mention it, people tend to say 'I've seen that' (on probing, you realise they've seen the dreadful Hollywood re-make).
Same actor (Jeff Bridges) but much better films: Are Fearless and Arlington Road under-seen films?
Same actor (Jeff Bridges) but much better films: Are Fearless and Arlington Road under-seen films?
In reply to Ian Hill: oh aye. pre-dates the whole Mad Max post-apocalypse thing by about 4 years. "She had great taste"
In reply to Kenny: Jim Jaramush (sp) Down by Law
In reply to Kenny:
Interesting that we share common views here but the opposite for Alien. I have to say that this has to be one of the most influential films in modern sci-fi culture. If you look at games and films in the last 20 years you can see it's influences everywhere.
However, how original it is, is debatable.
> It is an absolute gem.
Interesting that we share common views here but the opposite for Alien. I have to say that this has to be one of the most influential films in modern sci-fi culture. If you look at games and films in the last 20 years you can see it's influences everywhere.
However, how original it is, is debatable.
In reply to Kenny: All the Japanese horror that has been remade in the US, such as Ring, Dark Water, The Grudge, fairly widely watched but deserve to be more popular than the US remakes. Add to that a couple that have not been remade such as Audition and Battle Royale.
In reply to Kenny:
PS My favoutire bit is where the bloke is asked by Jenn Aniston about his job and replies "I decided I don't want to do that anymore"
Said with such wonderful conviction that it makes you want to chuck your own job in!
PS My favoutire bit is where the bloke is asked by Jenn Aniston about his job and replies "I decided I don't want to do that anymore"
Said with such wonderful conviction that it makes you want to chuck your own job in!
In reply to Kenny: Aeonflux - lasted a week in Livingston!
In reply to Kenny: Tarrantinos "True Romance"
In reply to Dave Richards: that'd be Tony Scott's "True Romance", written by Tarantino. Hardly underseen, it's a popular cult classic. I imagine more people have seen this than have seen any of Tarantino's other work, bar Pulp Fiction. And I bet more people have had more REPEAT viewings of True Romance than of PUlp Fiction too.
In reply to Bob Hughes:
also Round the Bend which I was raving about on here the other day.
(Anyone else see too many prepositions in that sentence?)
also Round the Bend which I was raving about on here the other day.
(Anyone else see too many prepositions in that sentence?)
In reply to Kenny:
I knew he it wasn't technically his film.... couldn't think of who directed it.. anyway you knew what I meant Noone I have spoken to about it knew what it was and they all know Tarantino's other films, so going on my experiance It is under seen.
I knew he it wasn't technically his film.... couldn't think of who directed it.. anyway you knew what I meant Noone I have spoken to about it knew what it was and they all know Tarantino's other films, so going on my experiance It is under seen.
In reply to Kenny:
Suicide Kings. Christopher Walken has some truly amazing lines in that film!
Suicide Kings. Christopher Walken has some truly amazing lines in that film!
In reply to Dave Richards: fair enough. sorry didn't mean to be pedantic (can't help it sometimes )
your friends are odd
your friends are odd
In reply to Kenny:
Can't argue with you there! But then they may say the same about me too
Can't argue with you there! But then they may say the same about me too
In reply to Kenny: Dennis Quaid's "Saviour" is worth seeing, if only for what I think would be an entirely honest and understandable reaction to what happened to his family at the start...
In reply to Rhoddy Stewart:
Hurrah. I've been looking forward to "savouring" the moment where someone other than me mentions 'Savior'. It is certainly one of the most underseen films I know, cos I believe that EVERYONE should see it. It's one of the greatest and most affecting films ever. Some very bold story concepts right from the start, and it doesn't let up.
The lakeshore scene (you know the one, I'll say no more) is pure cinema
> (In reply to Kenny) Dennis Quaid's "Saviour" is worth seeing, if only for what I think would be an entirely honest and understandable reaction to what happened to his family at the start...
Hurrah. I've been looking forward to "savouring" the moment where someone other than me mentions 'Savior'. It is certainly one of the most underseen films I know, cos I believe that EVERYONE should see it. It's one of the greatest and most affecting films ever. Some very bold story concepts right from the start, and it doesn't let up.
The lakeshore scene (you know the one, I'll say no more) is pure cinema
In reply to Kenny: Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Not a classic, but many beautiful and unique visuals, and hardly anyone saw it.
In reply to Kenny: It's a harrowing film. Took me ages to find on DVD. The scene on the shore is awful. I don't think I could ever go to Bosnia/Serbia knowing those people are still in charge...
In reply to Rhoddy Stewart: where did you find it on DVD? I know it was released a few years back but seems deleted now, so it might be an fleabay or amazon marketplace jobby for me. my VHS has gone for a long walk and probably won't come back. Incidentally 'Savior' was the only VHS tape that I bought full price on the day of release (had seen it in the cinema believe it or not! )
In reply to Marc C:
Agree. The original French version is brilliant. Same with the original 'Breathless' - but I don't think that's 'under-seen'...
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> (In reply to Kenny) I loved the original 'The Vanishing'. However, whenever I mention it, people tend to say 'I've seen that' (on probing, you realise they've seen the dreadful Hollywood re-make).
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Agree. The original French version is brilliant. Same with the original 'Breathless' - but I don't think that's 'under-seen'...
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In reply to Hannah m:
Surely 'Spoorloos', the original of The Vanishing, was Dutch. It takes place in France a lot though I guess.
Surely 'Spoorloos', the original of The Vanishing, was Dutch. It takes place in France a lot though I guess.
In reply to Kenny:
Hmmm - I saw it a long time ago and had the distinct (pssibly false) memory that it was French....anyway, still a good film.
Thinking of other possibly under-seen movies, but there must be loads of great arthouse movies that are 'underseen' simply because they are not mainstream...
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Hmmm - I saw it a long time ago and had the distinct (pssibly false) memory that it was French....anyway, still a good film.
Thinking of other possibly under-seen movies, but there must be loads of great arthouse movies that are 'underseen' simply because they are not mainstream...
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In reply to Hannah m: thought it was a joint Dutch-French production.
In reply to Kenny:
Out of my own personal favourite movies:
Play it Again Sam - One of Woody Allen's lesser known films but in my opinion his second best.
Take the Money and Run - Another of Woody Allen's lesser known films but in my opinion his third best.
Romper Stomper - A very involving film if somewhat violent for many people's tastes.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch - Transexual German Rock. Need I say more?
Naked - British, Classic and Dark.
The Wiz - Superb kistch Motown influenced Wizard of Oz epic.
The Hudsucker Proxy - The Cohen Bros do it again.
Ands
Out of my own personal favourite movies:
Play it Again Sam - One of Woody Allen's lesser known films but in my opinion his second best.
Take the Money and Run - Another of Woody Allen's lesser known films but in my opinion his third best.
Romper Stomper - A very involving film if somewhat violent for many people's tastes.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch - Transexual German Rock. Need I say more?
Naked - British, Classic and Dark.
The Wiz - Superb kistch Motown influenced Wizard of Oz epic.
The Hudsucker Proxy - The Cohen Bros do it again.
Ands
In reply to Hannah m:
Aye a tricky quandary, "do they belong on such a list"? I'd say, in general, no - many of them find the audience that they were intended for, if that makes sense. There's been a few that I thought maybe would have had more crossover appeal (e.g. I think 'A Very Long Engagement' suffered at the box office for not being 'Amelie Pt. 2')
But I was thinking more in terms of films that seem to have mass appeal but were ignored.
e.g. the 1995 remake of Kiss of Death, OK it's as bleak as anything, but it's a great story, well acted with an interesting cast.
> there must be loads of great arthouse movies that are 'underseen' simply because they are not mainstream...
Aye a tricky quandary, "do they belong on such a list"? I'd say, in general, no - many of them find the audience that they were intended for, if that makes sense. There's been a few that I thought maybe would have had more crossover appeal (e.g. I think 'A Very Long Engagement' suffered at the box office for not being 'Amelie Pt. 2')
But I was thinking more in terms of films that seem to have mass appeal but were ignored.
e.g. the 1995 remake of Kiss of Death, OK it's as bleak as anything, but it's a great story, well acted with an interesting cast.
In reply to Kenny:
I think Mike Judge and Office Space owe as much to Christopher Guest/Rob Reiner/This Is Spinal Tap as Ricky Gervais owes to Mike Judge and Office Space.
Ands
> I think Ricky Gervais must have been inspired a little bit by it. It is an absolute gem.
I think Mike Judge and Office Space owe as much to Christopher Guest/Rob Reiner/This Is Spinal Tap as Ricky Gervais owes to Mike Judge and Office Space.
Ands
In reply to Kenny:
Sounds corney but Stone Monkey pressed all my buttons nearly a couple of decades ago. Would have kicked any blockbuster into a cocked hat. A definite "MUST SEE".
Sounds corney but Stone Monkey pressed all my buttons nearly a couple of decades ago. Would have kicked any blockbuster into a cocked hat. A definite "MUST SEE".
In reply to Kenny:
Elem Klimov's "Come And See", shocking film about eh war atrocities in Belarrusi, WW2. Saw it on channel 4 years ago, still have a battererd old VHS copy.
Well worth a look.
"A crowning achievement of 1980's Soviet cinema, Elem Klimov's Come and See is perhaps the ultimate WWII film. This savage and lyrical fever dream of death, rage and terror experienced through young eyes is a virtual primer for the subsequent, similarly psychedelic intensity of Terrence Malick's "The thin Red Line" and Spielberg's "Saving Private Ryan," Klimov's elegant, harrowing union of unflinching ferocity and dreamlike clarity moved "Empire of the Sun" author J.G. Ballard to declare Come And See the greatest war film ever made. Time Out New York agreed, saying "Come And See's nimble balance of the sordid with the elegiac makes Peckinpah's 'Cross of Iron' seem like 'Newsies.'
When young Florya willingly joins a group of Partisans fighting the Nazis in Byelorussia, USSR, he little suspects that he is plunging through the looking glass. Separated from his comrades during a paratroop attack and struck deaf by German artillery, Florya - in the company of Glascha, a beguiling peasant girl - wanders a battle-scorched Russian purgatory of prehistoric forests and man-made slaughter. Florya's journey takes him and us through a gallery of exquisitely poetic imagery and brutal human atrocity. Unlike traditional war films, Come And See never stoops to convenient heroic catharsis or genre movie narrative symmetry. Images of a beautiful girl's impromptu dance in the rain and an SS unit's spontaneous, self-congratulatory applause at their own butchery haunt with equal power. More than any other war film, Come And See unites the powerful truths and inescapable dilemmas that lurk behind both the raptures of youth and the horrors of war."
Elem Klimov's "Come And See", shocking film about eh war atrocities in Belarrusi, WW2. Saw it on channel 4 years ago, still have a battererd old VHS copy.
Well worth a look.
"A crowning achievement of 1980's Soviet cinema, Elem Klimov's Come and See is perhaps the ultimate WWII film. This savage and lyrical fever dream of death, rage and terror experienced through young eyes is a virtual primer for the subsequent, similarly psychedelic intensity of Terrence Malick's "The thin Red Line" and Spielberg's "Saving Private Ryan," Klimov's elegant, harrowing union of unflinching ferocity and dreamlike clarity moved "Empire of the Sun" author J.G. Ballard to declare Come And See the greatest war film ever made. Time Out New York agreed, saying "Come And See's nimble balance of the sordid with the elegiac makes Peckinpah's 'Cross of Iron' seem like 'Newsies.'
When young Florya willingly joins a group of Partisans fighting the Nazis in Byelorussia, USSR, he little suspects that he is plunging through the looking glass. Separated from his comrades during a paratroop attack and struck deaf by German artillery, Florya - in the company of Glascha, a beguiling peasant girl - wanders a battle-scorched Russian purgatory of prehistoric forests and man-made slaughter. Florya's journey takes him and us through a gallery of exquisitely poetic imagery and brutal human atrocity. Unlike traditional war films, Come And See never stoops to convenient heroic catharsis or genre movie narrative symmetry. Images of a beautiful girl's impromptu dance in the rain and an SS unit's spontaneous, self-congratulatory applause at their own butchery haunt with equal power. More than any other war film, Come And See unites the powerful truths and inescapable dilemmas that lurk behind both the raptures of youth and the horrors of war."
In reply to Ands: well yes you can trace all culture back to whatever reference points you choose, I suppose. I wasn't saying Gervais nicked anything - my comment was one of praise.
In reply to Kenny:
Sound man I am no Gervais "fanboy" and wasn't trying to make any other point than the fact that Office Space derived from This is Spinal Tap.
Cheers,
Ands
Sound man I am no Gervais "fanboy" and wasn't trying to make any other point than the fact that Office Space derived from This is Spinal Tap.
Cheers,
Ands
In reply to Kenny:
Having thought about this just a little bit more... then The Animals Film. That really struck a cord with me.... especially the bit where the veal farmer says that the worst aspect of his job is the confinement. When his questioner asks "Do you mean the calves?", he replies " No, it's the seven day week".
Having thought about this just a little bit more... then The Animals Film. That really struck a cord with me.... especially the bit where the veal farmer says that the worst aspect of his job is the confinement. When his questioner asks "Do you mean the calves?", he replies " No, it's the seven day week".
In reply to Ands:
I was just readiong over some of the memorable quotes from "Play it Again Sam" on imdb.com and had to post this one. It is such an intelligently funny movie it actually brings me out is goosebumps to read over some of these lines. Woody Allen's books are also well worth a read. Especially "Side Affects" which is hilarious.
Scene: Woody Allen walks up to a pale skinned and very serious looking woman who is dressed all in black in a New York art museum. His characters name is "Allan".
Allan: That's quite a lovely Jackson Pollack, isn't it?
Museum Girl: Yes, it is.
Allan: What does it say to you?
Museum Girl: It restates the negativeness of the universe. The hideous lonely emptiness of existence. Nothingness. The predicament of Man forced to live in a barren, Godless eternity like a tiny flame flickering in an immense void with nothing but waste, horror and degradation, forming a useless bleak straitjacket in a black absurd cosmos.
Allan: What are you doing Saturday night?
Museum Girl: Committing suicide.
Allan: What about Friday night?
I was just readiong over some of the memorable quotes from "Play it Again Sam" on imdb.com and had to post this one. It is such an intelligently funny movie it actually brings me out is goosebumps to read over some of these lines. Woody Allen's books are also well worth a read. Especially "Side Affects" which is hilarious.
Scene: Woody Allen walks up to a pale skinned and very serious looking woman who is dressed all in black in a New York art museum. His characters name is "Allan".
Allan: That's quite a lovely Jackson Pollack, isn't it?
Museum Girl: Yes, it is.
Allan: What does it say to you?
Museum Girl: It restates the negativeness of the universe. The hideous lonely emptiness of existence. Nothingness. The predicament of Man forced to live in a barren, Godless eternity like a tiny flame flickering in an immense void with nothing but waste, horror and degradation, forming a useless bleak straitjacket in a black absurd cosmos.
Allan: What are you doing Saturday night?
Museum Girl: Committing suicide.
Allan: What about Friday night?
In reply to brothersoulshine:
Yes! - I've been wondering why Tampopo isn't available, considering the crap that is around.
Yes! - I've been wondering why Tampopo isn't available, considering the crap that is around.
In reply to Hannah m:
Original is Dutch, but whatever it's a very fine thing.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/
Original is Dutch, but whatever it's a very fine thing.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096163/
In reply to johnpaulshirreffs: I was sort of hoping for no replies as that could put it in position for THE most underseen,
but as it only seems to be the too of us it is still in the running.
but as it only seems to be the too of us it is still in the running.
In reply to cragspud:
errr. yes, let's keep it underground.
I first saw this in New York, may years ago... the night before we went to New Orleans!
errr. yes, let's keep it underground.
I first saw this in New York, may years ago... the night before we went to New Orleans!
In reply to johnpaulshirreffs: Were you a bit nervous getting on the flight south then?
In reply to Kenny:
"Aram" - it's a French/Armenian political thriller/personal drama. Outstandingly made and very moving. After seeing at the EIFF I don't think it ever got a DVD erlease here, but look out for it on Channel 4 or BBC 4 at some point hopefully.
"Aram" - it's a French/Armenian political thriller/personal drama. Outstandingly made and very moving. After seeing at the EIFF I don't think it ever got a DVD erlease here, but look out for it on Channel 4 or BBC 4 at some point hopefully.
In reply to Kenny: Hi- got it about 8 months ago in HMV in Edinburgh, just in the normal section. Had a look this AM tho- none left-sorry
In reply to johnpaulshirreffs: Think it's a Dutch/French co-production. Most of the language is French, for obvious reasons.
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