UKC

In reply to Hugeos and others:

I can understand people liking his music, or even really liking it.. and I can understand people disliking it to. But there seems to be a certain percentage of people (predominantly male I think?) who seem to make out that not only is his music the WORST ever, but he is a shitty person too? They hate HIM as well as his sound.

Musically he IS talented, to produce an album i think you have to be, certainly more talented than the average person. He writes original stuff. I can understand how/why people dont like it (as a preference) but why so strongly?

However bad a certain track is, surely it can only be bad enough for you to dislike it? As you could never grow to hate it because you purposely wouldnt listen to it enough to! Its not like hes even being played on the radio all the time.

So Im thinking it must have more to do other factors than the music.

A. Him singing about pretty emotional stuff?
B. The women like him!?
C. Somthing else?

So If you hate him, why? What has this bloke done to you? I bet you might dislike sugarbabes and/or 50cent, but you dont hate them? So why James Blunt?

(im not criticising your hatred! Im questioning it as its puzzling!)


Personally, Im quite indifferent. I have his album, listen to it maybe once a fortnight (but I do listen to 5 albums a day!). Please dont use this as a platform to big him up or smite him down! 'Hes a tw*t' doesnt explain why you dislike him so much!

He obviously pulls the right strings?

Mat

Becasue he is boring.

and my gran like him.

shame he didn't stay in the army.

In reply to matnoo:

because people hate it if something they dislike is deemed popoular and liked - so this increases the level of their annoyance/dislike. etc

In reply to matnoo:


I think for most people, it's the apparent insincerity of his faux earnestness. Sugababes and 50 Cent don't pretend to be anything more than hit-generating cash cows, and I salute them for this. Blunt comes across as a lot more contrived. It may be his PR people who are to blame, perhaps. I don't being constantly reminded of the "sensitive squaddie" past etc.
Does that help to rationalise it? I think the ubiquity of Blunt is getting to people too.

By way of comparison, musically I hate David Gray just as much, but I don't have an equivalently irrational hatred of the man himself. I am not entirely sure why, but perhaps it's because I don't get the feeling that his singing voice is an affectation.

In reply to matnoo: He is musical taupe!

In reply to matnoo:

Because his music is something to slit your wrists to, not to listen to for pleasure. And he left a perfectly honourable career to inflict this warbling on the world.
Plus if he's as wet and wimpy as his singing, he should never have got into the Army in the first place. If he's NOT that wet and wimpy, why pretend in the songs. Aarrghh!

In reply to Caralynr:

But that also describes lots of superb and respected artists. Joy Division etc.

In reply to Kenny:

David Gray is a harder target to hit because he keeps bobbing his head about when he sings. You'd have to be a good aim. Some of his songs are ok though. I like Babylon.

I dislike Blunt's over-egging of his lyrics and they seem very, very directed at a boring coffee table market, and single women (ref. his references to liking giving oral sex in his lyrics). 'Pleasant' music you don't actually need to listen hard to. It all seems very cynical. Musically I don't like his tunes much either. Apart from that he's great.

Davie

In reply to Kenny:

The difference is good music actually evokes emotion in you. Joy, sadness whatever. Blunt doesn't.

Davie

In reply to matnoo: I saw him doing Beatuiful live on some telly thing and I'm ashamed to admit it was actually quite good, a lot better than the horrible production of the record.

I've just put on a Japanese hardcore noise cd as punishment for that thought. Feeling better already...

In reply to matnoo:


For a good character reference for James Blunt, read this from someone who knows and worked with him before he became famous...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4818362.stm

Writing on an internet site, Mr Burton said he met Blunt in 2001 and his music was "crude, occasionally laughably direct, and betrayed his relative lack of musicianship or discernible influence".

But Mr Burton could see the commercial potential and Blunt flew to Los Angeles so the pair could work together, he wrote. "A couple of people told me I shouldn't be working with him without a contract in place.

"But to be honest the love couldn't have been thicker in the air - lots of talk about how great the record was going to be and how cool the whole situation was."

But the relationship soured when Blunt was approached by a manager, Mr Burton wrote.

Blunt was told to "sever all ties" with the producer, according to Mr Burton.


Plus he has a whiny, irritating voice. He needs to listen to some thrash metal, in my opinion...

Perhaps ypu should go to gigwise.co.uk

In reply to Kenny:

You might be referring to Pete W here, rather than James "My-Name-Makes-Incredibly-Apt-Rhyming-Slang" Blunt?

In reply to matnoo: he sounds like a deaf person in acute pain. its the warbling squeal that turns me off.

In reply to Dominion:

To be (uncharacteristically) fair to Blunt, this sort of things happens all the time in the entertainment industry - someone always gets their fingers burnt when an associate moves on to bigger things.

In reply to Dominion:

I just remember having read somewhere (the Indie I think) that he had a life size Princess Leia cardboard model in his bedroom "to protect him". Very interesting character, indeed...

In reply to matnoo: Maybe it's his annoying voice and predictable tunes?

In reply to Kenny:

Yes... absolutely. The entertainment business is full of people who have no morals, will cut your throat, and drop you if they can (ie as sonn as they start making money, and have to pay someone a percentage as a result)...

Although, it does look as though the "new" manager was the baddie in this deal, Blunt still had to agree to do it. He could have been "honourable", but - apparently* - chose not to be so...

*obviously, that story is only one side... (to be fair)

In reply to violentViolet:


Hmmm... Whereas I'd feel safer with Han Solo, but he isn't - from my male perspective - quite as "photogenic" (if you know what I mean)

In reply to matnoo: I have to admit I find his lyrics soul-destroyingly depressing, all this "love" bollocks, what a drag :O)

In reply to matnoo:

I wrote this on the "No Bravery" thread...

"You guys are so up your own Macho a---s. What´s the matter with you all, does he sing about stuff real men like you guys shouldn´t talk about?

I think his music and lyrics are the best thing to happen to music in a while.

Just wondered. Honi Soit Qui Mal Asbestos (F--k you Jack I´m fire proof/flame me) Pete

In reply to matnoo:

What amuses me about him is his vocal ability, to be that breathy and that whiny at the same time is quite a feat.

In reply to Bokonon: You could almost believe that he must be able to breathe through his ears to achieve that whine that he does so well :O)

In reply to matnoo:


Actually, musically he IS NOT talented. In addition, to produce an album you do not have to be more talented than anyone whatsoever.

In reply to unclemidge: well said uncle.

i am amazed how any one can find true musical talent in any pop music. it's all very predictable and thats what i hate about it. it's all head music which i don't think works. head music is music written in the head instead of the heart. it might sound like it's from the heart but it's not. plus i hate the buisness side of it too. it's a real joke.

In reply to matnoo: Well, he sings a heck of a lot better than me...

I think it's the ubiquity: it's difficult to go in to a shop and not hear "Beautiful". The same has happened previously to Moby (Play) or David Gray (White Ladder) - especially Moby: not a bad album at the time, but done to death. I'm sounding a bit MOTR here aren't I?

IMHO some of the album is good; some indifferent, some bad - much like most albums in fact. I don't rabidly dislike the guy, perhaps because he hasn't been hyped up so much over here.

From the above posts it would appear compulsary to say at this point I need to listen to some <insert obscure music subtype here> as a pennance. So it'll be Fat Freddy or some tootling viennese dub for me now...

Cheerio

Ben B

In reply to DEvans:


What definition of 'pop music' would you be using there?

I would say that 'Even as we speak' or 'Kid 606' where incredibly talented and very much 'pop(ular) music'.


Music is rarefactions in air, where they come from is merely speculation on your part.

Q. Does James Blunts music come from his heard or his heart?

A. Actually it doesn't matter, what matters is where it affects *you* and how. Don't mistake your critical reaction to a work as the artists actual intention, that would be churlish.


ALL music available on a commercially available CD's has as much 'business side' to it as James Blunt, from Rune Grammafon to Warp, Sony BMG to Shifty Disco.

In reply to matnoo: A lot of people are obscurist snobs!

In reply to matnoo:

I think some people genuinely dislike that type of music and then again there are people who dislike something and some people because they are popular or become popular.

As someone mentioned above - look what happened previously with Coldplay, David Gray etc - reasonable music, reasonable people - nothing really to dislike - its like your uncle bob having a sing song.

But suddenly a track will become astronomically popular (Yellow...friday night I'm going nowhere song...beautiful) and then bang, because its popular, some 'cool' person will announce they are 'yesterday', 'contrived' etc and suddenly its 'uncool' to like/listen to them.

'Cool' people listen to obscure bands and go to obscure gigs and talk about obscure records from mini labels because its cool to be different and some even go out of their way to find the obscurist band in the whole wide world in the vain hope that no-one else wil have heard of them and ultimately raising themselves above other 'cool' people to an elite population who have heard of this mysterious band who play sheep testicles only on Mondays while wearing nappies and wellington boots...

I like Sugarbabes, Girls Aloud, David Gray, James Blunt and I f*cking love Coldplay. I also like medieval music, opera, classical, death and thrash metal of the 80's and 90's, Zep and the odd bit of Kebnekasje :-P

In reply to JoH:

I nearly watched songs from the shows tonight, then,

BLEEDING RONAN KEATING

FFS he sounds like sheep being slaughtered.

Please can someone ban him from the airwaves.

In reply to sutty:


Ban him yourself. That's what mute buttons, and volume controls are for, not just adverts...

In reply to matnoo:

The sentiments he expresses in his songs are shallow, trite and tedious.

The fact that a lot of people mistake them for genuine sentiment only highlights what a shallow, trite society we have to exist in.

I'd say some of his songs are quite strong but there were a lot of fillers on his album. I think Damien Rice is a lot more talented and seems a bit more authentic. i dont think its about D B being emotional or whatever, I think sometimes its that it doesnt sound convincing? hope that helps?

In reply to matnoo:

OK, trying to take your question in the spirit it was intended, I listened to the album yesterday.

I dislike it - mostly because I prefer a deeper richer singing voive. Also the melodies are the musical equivalent of rhyming couplets - you just get a bit fed up with knowing what's coming. All comes across a bit wishy washy for me - and he *is* over-played.

As for the PR side, haven't really followed/heard it much so can't comment.

Interesting comparison with David Gray - whom I quite liked until someone mimicked a sheep in time with BaBaBabylon and now makes me cringe.

John

John

Many fanatics in the world, political one, religious ones and of course the musical ones.

James Blunt seems to evoke a disproportionate reaction from some people, they need to take a deep breath and step back.

Think about it, the mention of a subject sends a person raving on... would you like to be stood talking to that person at a party?

Cheers

Toby

In reply to Dominion:

I did ban him, wit the off switch.

In reply to matnoo:

Maybe because his name rhymes with c*** ?

http://www.despised.co.uk/archives/9

In reply to matnoo: because he is a complete spoon

In reply to matnoo:

they are deeply in love with him and try to hide it by claiming to hate him.

In reply to matnoo: because he goes out with somebody like tara parker

In reply to matnoo:

He is dreary and shite but very popular, reflecting the fact that society is, on the whole, dreary and shite. People subconciously get angry at this fact. Hence the hatred.

In reply to Wibble Wibble:
so its actualy not hatred towards him but life they are showing?

In reply to matnoo:

"I know you well
I know your smell"

How can you not hate someone who pens such drivel? And I haven't even got onto the annoying whiney voice yet. But overall, he just seems to think of himself as an artist, when he's clearly (at best) a poor pop singer.

My mate hates him because he thinks he should make more effort with his singing. He thinks he sings like he's having a dump(!) - you're b-uuuuuuuuuu-tif-uuuul etc.

I don't hate him, no point, but the premise of that beautiful song is bs imho.

In reply to rock waif: So you won't want the cd for your birthday then?


<<grabs coat and starts walking back to Woolworths>>

In reply to Glyn Jones: No thanks

My friend did a great James Blunt impression which I have attempted to emulate above. A "you had to be there" moment I think...

<gets coat and leaves quickly>

In reply to matnoo:

Those Katie Melua lyrics are world beating though,
'There are half a million bicycles in Beijing
That's a lot
And it makes me feel quite small.'
Faced with the hideous shiteness of these, I would actually declare Blunt the next genius to rival Hendrix.
AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrghh.

Davie

In reply to rock waif:

humph!

so much for forward thinking!

bugger, where's the receipt

In reply to matnoo:

I have nothing against him personally. I've never met him, and for all I know I might quite like him if I did. But I dislike his music intensely, and the image of himself that he portrays though it.
I find his voice whiney and irritating, but most of all, I dislike his lyrics. He portays women as some sort of unnatainable ideal and himself as a wet drip who allows himself to be walked all over by the cynical and stronger females he so idealises. Clingy pathetic blokes who see the world through self-indulgent rose-tinted spectacles are incredibly unnatractive. I wouldn't touch a bloke that that with a bargepole because the temptation to be cruel would be almost overwhelming. When I hear his music I get an instant craving for a large dose of Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

In reply to Alison Stockwell:

relax dont doe it

In reply to mik: when you wanna go to it

In reply to Alison Stockwell:

>Clingy pathetic blokes who see the world through self-indulgent rose-tinted spectacles are incredibly unnatractive. I wouldn't touch a bloke that that with a bargepole because the temptation to be cruel would be almost overwhelming.

Thank you Madam Pain.

Davie

In reply to I am the God of Strathyre:


Melua, Blunt, Dido, Cullum; there are many others ... all anodyne aural wallpaper for Starbucks branches. The fact that lots of people find "meaning" in their songs is pretty sad.

As Paul Weller said, on being asked if he'd do a duet with Blunt:

"I'd rather eat my own sh1t."

In reply to matnoo:

Because if you're having a whiney nervous breakdown, you should have the decency to do it quietly, alone, in the dark, with a gun in your mouth, instead of setting yourself up as the Brother Theresa of cunnilingus and unrequited lerv.

In reply to Steve Parker:

PMSL. Best giggle I've had all day.

In reply to matnoo:
Reasons I hate James Blunt:

Because he is absolutely everywhere. He brings a whole new level of ubiquitousness (should that be ubiquity?) to pop music. His music is totally and utterly bland and unremarkable yet it is popular beyond any comprehensible level. His "deep and meaningful" lyrics are just insipid sub-sixth form anguished rubbish. I have no problem whatsoever with singer-songwriters or men singing about emotional issues, my problem is when they do so in such a thoroughly bland, dull, uninspiring way and then this is somehow adopted by popular culture as "exciting" or "different". There have been hundreds of singer songwriters with vastly more talent than James Blunt who have failed to get anywhere in the music industry. I just cannot see what distinguishes him form any of these (except possibly he has been managed better/more cynically).

Oh, and he has a really, really annoying voice. It's not that he can't sing, his voice just makes me want to hit him. Hard. In the face. With an anvil.

In reply to matnoo:

I feel rather remiss for not including the words "pretentious" and "tw*t" in my post above. Many apologies.

In reply to JoH:


I've climbed that! (Well, snow-plodded up it) Is there really a band called it?

In reply to Alison Stockwell:

Now, I've a sense of deja vu there - who is it? Who does that remind me of?

Someone on here? No, it's gone.

Oh well.

; )

John

In reply to KeithW:

Fantastic line.

In reply to TRNovice:

Don't let it happen again

In reply to matnoo:

Only just seen this one!

I'll admit that I don't know James Blunt. I've never met him. So, I can't say I hate him as a personal, or dislike his personal habits.

However, when an artist puts themselves up for public exmaination - i.e. when they release an album, put on an exhibition etc - they become personified with their art. So, saying that you 'hate' James Blunt, or Tracey Emin, or whoever, is really a verbal shorthand for 'I hate their art'. Everyone does it, and I think it is perfectly valid use of language.

Right, that bit over - why do I hate James Blunt (yes, and I do mean his music). It is beause his music encapsulates everything I hate about bland, inoffensive, safe, unoriginal singer-songwriter tunes. His voice is in tune, but that is just about all that it has going for it. It is whining, screetchy and irritating. His mid-tempo dad-rock reminds me of musical luminaries such as the Lighthouse Family and M People. It is safe, unchallenging candy floss music which acts a bit like Five News - it has all the issues in there, but it doesn't have anything meaningful to say about them. Musicially, his writing is a dark empty dead pit of nothingness, riddled with cliches.

As for your suggestions as to why I hate him:

>A. Him singing about pretty emotional stuff?
>B. The women like him!?
>C. Somthing else?

That's right. I am a man, therefore I can't stand other men singing about feelings. That's why I love artists like Nick Darke and Jeff Buckley so much. Also, I am insanely jealous of the fact that some women fancy him. In the same way, I hate every eligible male that any woman is attracted to. Jeez.

And for the record, I also hate the Sugarbabes and 50 Cent. All of them are talentless leeches, only in it for the money.

In reply to Hugeos:

My knee-jerk reaction to his music is similar to yours, but I did hear him doing an acoustic version of "No Bravery" on the radio and - not realising who it was - thought it quite moving.

In reply to Dux:

Mine's not a knee-jerk reaction!

Fair enough if you enjoyed it though.

In reply to matnoo:

He's not a tw@t, he's a c##t.

Oh, and I like my music with some soul. Unfortunately his lifeless, painful, colourless drivel has none.

In reply to matnoo:

Must be lucky, do not remember ever hearing him. I thought this was obvious, he was a spy, then found this was the spy;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/blunt_anthony.shtml

In reply to Wibble Wibble:

It was a momentary aberration and I am confident that it will not be repeated!

In reply to balti boy: Thankfully his grasp of the English language is a lot better than yours!

In reply to matnoo:

I count 7 references to whine (or derivatives thereof) in this thread and 4 to annoy (or derivatives) - probably answers the question pretty well.

In reply to matnoo:

Interesting how you want to seperate musical talent and image in an industry where the thing you are sold is based on image...

The thing that puts me off personally is that I despair at the decline of masculinity in favour of the "sensitive" man who is likely to be afraid of spiders, can't service your car for you and wouldn't punch a burglar if he raped his wife.

<This moment's thought was brought to you by the P.C. school of Bambi>

In reply to matnoo: Who gives a monkeys' about him - he's earning money, probably having sex with no-brain women - Do you think he's giving a feck what you all think?

In reply to all the "real" men on here:

What is a real man; I´m f---d if I know? Is a real man someone that doesn´t have emotions; or he does but doesn´t show them? If so, how does that make him a man?

Surely a bloke who has been in the combat or policing roles in the Balkons that Blunt has and seen the things he has, need to examines what he has seen and the feelings he has and probably still lives through. Okay. Most blokes keep it in. That´s good is it? Surely blokes who have been in life-threatening situations need professional help to come to terms with what they have seen? In the British Army you don´t get that - costs too much! Maybe with the words of his songs he is encouraging other blokes who have similar experiences to confront their feelings and fears. I have been in very similar situations after over a decade in The Army and his songs twang a chord in my heart. I know what he´s talking about, I know the emotional dessloation that inhabits his lyrics.

For me one thing is certain, it takes many things to be called a man. Looking into the eyes of a dying or dead man, woman or child puts you in touch with manhood and dealing with what you find can turn you into a man.

Quietly. Pete

In reply to Pete W:

nothing wrong with a "real man" showing emotions, but in James B's oevre aren't any emotions it's just a shallow tosh which sometimes rhymes.

In reply to Pete W:

There is a type of emotion that has genuine depth and which comes from experience of life and profound wisdom. People like that are often selfless and don't need to witter on about it; it comes across naturally through their everyday dialogue.
There is another type of emotion that is shallow, simpering, self-indulgent and pretentious. James Blunt strikes me as the latter.

In reply to Alison Stockwell: Do you know, I feel exactly the same about the Eisteddfords that my kids are constantly being forced to compete in. Emoting in public.

In reply to Alison Stockwell:

I don´t know all that much about JB, just snippets off here really. Ihaven´t heard all the hype... and well, whatever! I bought the album when it was first released here on the basis of "You´re beautiful" because I liked what I heard and I felt some connection with the emotions it expressed. The rest of the album hasn´t lessened my feelings towards it. It is impossible to "know" the reasons why a person releases this kind of work and at the end of the day I don´t really give a sh1t. His work strikes a chord with me and my reality. To call him less than a man for singing about emotions despite a very sizeable number of people liking his work for those very reason smacks of jealousy or someone being threatened in their own perception of what it takes to be a man.

That´s me. Pete

In reply to Pete W:
Well, he just seems a bit wet to me. Definitely not my type, but then he might be quite nice in real life. It's just a commercial image after all.
I don't suppose many men would find him threatening. If they did I'd think that was pretty wet too. Fancy feeling threatened by a pop star!
Of course when it comes to peoples different likes and dislikes, as long as it's genuine and not to fit in with their mates, then that's fine by me. It would be boring if everyone was the same.

In reply to Pete W:

So am I not allowed to just think he's whiny, annoying and ubiquitous anymore? Fail to see what that has to do with his masculinity (an out-dated concept if you ask me, it is the noughties after all).

[Rather ironically (or is it?) I typed the above and was about to post it when I noticed that it was under my girlfriend’s ID. Maybe I should write a song about it?]

In reply to TRNovice:

Very true. Whiney women who act like victims and sing about how pathetic they are are just as irritating; not that I can think of any off hand, but then I wouldn't listen to them anyway.

The issue is not that he sings about emotions; but about how cheap those emotions are.

In reply to Alison Stockwell:

Or about how he grinds your face in them, which feels similar to having it ground in dogshit. He's a blunt instrument with no bloody subtlety.

In reply to JoH:


In that case you'd like my olive tapenade and my highly secret tapas selection.

Isn't it Kebnekajse rather than Kebnekasje?

Have not heard this Blunt's singing. I'll check iTunes.

M

In reply to Mick - UKClimbing.com:


and I did.......jeez that stuff is CRAP. Bet he's good live though in a very small venue. It's manufactured 'from the soul' shizen that will pull the heartstrings of many because in a world were truth is lost people are looking for the quasi-authentic to spend their hard-earned pennies on and find meaning in their mundane lives.....save it, if you think you have found it here you are kidding yourself.

Try the pipes of Davey Spillane.

http://www.davyspillane.com/

Mick

In reply to matnoo:

Really the whole thing has nothing to do with the guy as a person, everyone in the public eye is in it for their own ends and portray themselves in a way they believe, in Blunt's case, will sell him most singles.

My issue is that fact that musically, he is at worst talentless, or at best highly over rated, only appealling generally to the tone deaf, and those with little or no musical acumen.

In reply to TRNovice:


Of course you are! There were a few `interesting´ comments above about he being an example of "the modern man". Pete

In reply to Mick - UKClimbing.com:

Whatever the source of people becoming truely enlightened I think they should grasp it. If it comes from a singer, a poster or a surise then so what! Your version of reality is no more real to someone else. Encouragement not discouragement. Pete

In reply to matnoo:

I was working at a concert he played in a small venue (~450 folk) Edinburgh a year or so ago (before he was played incessantly by everyone). His sister was at Edinburgh Uni and had invited all her friends to the gig, and everyone else was more or less pulled in off the street. There was no one in the audience who had come to see him whatsoever - everyone talked through the gig and it was one of the dullest gigs to work. As a performer (live or recorded), he doesn't engage your interest which gives him no credibility as an artist.

In reply to unclemidge and others:


To all those who have this much distain for him, unable to just refrain from listening to his music, but feel the need to not only smite him down but his listners too!!

Id far rather have the worst music taste on earth (and enjoy my choosen music) than be arrgoant or opinionated.


It looks like this has degenerated into 'hes a tw*t' 'no hes not' which is ashame. There have been james blunt threads before, i wanted to possibly provoke a conversation into *why him so specifically*. Its become fassionable to hate him. Everyone has just said 'talentless' and 'trying to make money', one of which is an opinon and the other is what everyone who has ever lived is trying to do.

Im abandoning this thread!!! Ive created just another platform for bitching, instead of a discussion about the OP!!! Go UKC Go!



haha, cya guys!

Mat.

In reply to matnoo:

No im not abandoning it yet...

James blunt may be trying to appeal to the 'whigny vicitmised woman' with cheap tactics.

But what do ALL women in showbiz do? Flash their tits? wiggle their booty? Is that not a cheap ploy? What do a huge amount of women do on a friday night? Cheap ploys to get interest? What do a lot of blokes do, down the gym pumping iron?

Everyone does it. Barry white sings about love, when all he does is shag. Cheap ploy, a tacky use of the word?

My post was not 'WHY DO WE HATE HIM' but 'WHY HIM IN PARTICULAR?'

As far as i can see, him singing with false emotions appealing to the waify woman is no different to dr-dre pretending that hes a drugs dealer and that he shoots people in his spare time appealing to the wannabe gangster who deals pot to his mates.

Id say the agressive music and lyrics some rappers use are far more damaging to society than blunts stuff.

I think i might be fighting a loosing battle here in simply trying to get my point across, but never mind! Everyone seems to want to prove that theyre right instead of discussing things!

Is everyone like this down the pub, cos wed all be very hard to talk to!?!

IT DOENST MATTER!! ITS JUST A THREAD!

;D


Mat

In reply to matnoo:

Coz he looks like you

In reply to matnoo: I totally agree with you. If people could just learn to put "In my opinion" and understand what that means.
OASIS has a similar effect on me but I wouldn't dream of saying some of the things said above about them.

Cheers

Toby

In reply to matnoo: there have been some sensible, well-reasoned responses. look at mine, early on (16:44 Sat). several others too. you seem to be choosing to ignore those.

it's all about the insincerity.

In reply to Toby_W:

No no no. Enough of this post-modern cultural relativism.

If something's crap, then we should say so; and anyone who likes it is either wrong or mad.

:O

In reply to KeithW: Who decides if it's crap... the majority?

Oh god save us, I like the music but I couldn't live on McDonalds and have big brother and eastenders as the only thing on the telly.. aaaaahhhhhh.

Cheers

Toby

In reply to matnoo:

My favourite blunt related quote:

"When i listen to blunt, I understand self harm".

The main reason for the hatred is that this bland, benal sh!te became the biggest selling album in a calender year. Outrageous that this country is so pathetic that we made that our biggest selling album. I hang my head in shame to be associated with so many clueless, band-waggon jumping, fools.

Maybe a superiority thing but I don't care.

In reply to spacey:

After a brief google search I found that Kylie was the biggest selling album in 1988, Shania Twain spent 10 weeks at no. 1 in 1999 and Dido was top in 2003. Not exactly a list of the greatest musicians ever (my opinion). Bland, banal sh!te always does well in the charts as most people are fairly middle of the road - not really a reason to hate someone.

In reply to matnoo:

Matt, I get your point. It's not James Blunt in particular I hate. In fact, I also hate Jamie Cullum, Katie Melua, Sugarbabes, Pussycat Dolls... the list goes on.

The reason is simple: The music is artistically dead. There's no originality, there's no real raw feeling. It is all manufactured pop, inoffensive bland dross that vaguely skates over emotional issues such as love, loss, and hate so that the widest possible market feels like they connect.

And that's all the listener is: a market, a cash cow. I've worked in both film and music industries, and they work in the same way.

Step 1: Find yourself an inoffensive, nice looking artist/actor

Step 2: Target your market - in Blunt's case, primarily 20-35 female, with minor 20-35 male ABC (i.e. not gruff working-class me, to use a marketing cliche)

Step 3: Shape the product around your market. Hit the right magazines, the right TV and you'll have yourself a No.1 and a shed load of money to do it all again.


This is the key to why I hate James Blunt. His music (and everything like it) is the product of a marketing department, the consequence of a bunch of suits sitting round a table discussing 'demographic strategies' and 'brand alignment'. It is NOTHING to do with music for its own end, music just for the joy of music.

In reply to matnoo:


What on Earth did you expect?

In reply to TRNovice:

http://www.stablesound.co.uk

Click the 'James Twunt' option.

In reply to Ridge: Because he talks like Tony Blair.

In reply to Hugeos:

Right! A discussion!

Fab..

But surely youd not listen to anything? Or eat any food? Or buy clothing! What do you listen to?

I have listened to blunts album twice today to make a more definative opinion on his music, and it is starting to grate!

I do agree with you entirely though, my favourite type of music is the bands we have at our local. But i think youve got to have at least some acceptance of the mass marketed stuff.

I do like simple piano, and acoustic guitar, which aside from his lyrics his music i find very good for.


Mat.

In reply to matnoo:

Not quite so much interest as there was in slagging him off is there?

In reply to matnoo: hi,
i can tell you why people dont like james,
its because 99.9% of the population who hate him are men
becasue they are just jealous!

I've seen it my self!

i love james blunt! the fella is PURE talented!

people must be ashamed of there selves if they hate him!

you see the men actually like him, but they wont admitt to it! lol

JAMES BLUNT ROCKS MY SOCKS! woo

In reply to A James blunt fan!:

Glad you've cleared that up. Cheers. Funny how we were all so confused.

In reply to A James blunt fan!:

Yeh so why don't you tell us who you really are or are you not yet ready to tell the world of your love for 'Lame C**t' ?