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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/someone-camped-edge-massive-drop...

Gauntlet dropped! Narrowed it down to which flank of a certain massif it must be situated (which is pretty much given in the article) and am now scratching my head over an OS map whilst doing Google image searches.

In the spirit of not turning the spot into an honey-pot, it might be an idea not to reveal where it is (if you do happen to know or have worked it out).

In reply to While E. Coyote:

I saw this the other day, and didn't pay much attention. Having now looked again at the photos, its taken me about 30 seconds to find the likely location on google earth. 

I suspect its a slightly tricky spot to get to, but that photo makes it very easy to work out were it is. While I'm not about to tell anyone, simply having these photos in the original article is enough to 'blow its cover'.   

In reply to While E. Coyote: 'In the spirit of not turning the spot into an honey-pot, it might be an idea not to reveal where it is (if you do happen to know or have worked it out).'

So why publicise it further on here ?

In reply to leon 1:

I thinks its an appeal to not publicise it....which ironically we are all doing by responding to this post....

In reply to While E. Coyote:

In the spirit of your OP I am keeping it vague but the buildings visible will be known to any climber who has visited North Wales so they make it pretty easy to identify the vague location.

Google Earth is very good in North Wales.......

In reply to leon 1:

I've worded it so that only those with navigational acumen are going to be able to locate it (which I still can't, incidentally). Short of nuking the crag directory (for example), and considering it's already been published on Wales Online; unless you have a problem with me personally, I'm struggling to see the issue...

In reply to While E. Coyote: No nothing personal whatsoever. I just found it strange that you re-published a fairly minor article from Wales on Line from earlier this week onto a national forum for UK mountaineering  climbing and hill walking and then asked people to keep it a secret .

Phil79 probably has the best take on it 

I thinks its an appeal to not publicise it....which ironically we are all doing by responding to this post....

In reply to While E. Coyote:

What kind of complete is so stupid to find a great spot and try to it up for everyone else by posting some "look at me!!!!! Look at me!!!" Tiktok of how "cool" it is. I just give up trying to understand this. Good on him taking his kids camping, but FFS the Tiktok????

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Edit: not sure if that was automated or done by mods, but the redacting of my original post is probably for the best 

In reply to leon 1:

Was a big photo and article in The Times today about this. 

In reply to CantClimbTom:

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/welsh-mountain-most-insta...

Looks like it is an issue. I concede that I was an <expletive adjective> <expletive noun> to further disseminate the latest viral destination. Even if the "horse" had already bolted #Appologies

In reply to While E. Coyote:

Maybe I'm good at reading maps as an ex-geologist but it took me about 30 seconds to find it...clues are in the shape and orientation of the lakes and the long line of cars going down what is clearly a main road!

Or knowing which the house is the first picture.

In reply to While E. Coyote:

🤬 sake.

"Steve Bowater, an experienced wild camper who has stayed across Europe's mountain ranges..."

Ooh, a wild camper. What a hero. I hear they love them in the park. 

"I went up about five weeks earlier just to find it and to have a look. I had to use a map and a compass to locate it. "

Took me 15 seconds on Google maps. Did he call the MRT to get home?

"I wouldn't want it to become the most sought-after site in Snowdonia." 

I wouldn't worry. Should be fine as long as you don't do an interview about it in the paper or anything f***ing stupid like that.

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In reply to Longsufferingropeholder:

The North Pennines thanks him for drawing attention to somewhere else.

In reply to Olaf Prot:

That they name the road in the article is also a bit of a giveaway.  The lakes, plus kink in the road and finally the "driveway" shape for the building opposite pretty much signpost it.

Wouldnt have been difficult to take the photos to hide those giveaways. One of their photos does manage it but all the rest have a clue or two or big flashing sign in them.

In reply to While E. Coyote:

Internet is full of muppetry. There is some other guy, paul in something, who has taken to filming himself on snowdonia's scrambles. He clearly not a natural climber, struggles, isn't seeing the moves etc.. plus he's got no harness, rope and helmet. Unless it's completely staged he's a future statistic. 

In reply to While E. Coyote:

I know Steve. Having located this very dramatic spot and enjoyed a night with his lads in a stunning location he put some photos on his Facebook. There must be many on here who've shared a memorable experience in a similar fashion. He was then contacted out of the blue by the editor who'd been alerted to the photos. Hence the interview. I really don't think there's much need to worry about the spot being overrun given it requires a lot of effort to get to. This is a lot less accessible than the very tiktokkable "infinity pool" on the opposite side of the Pass. (While you're in the area, do make sure to check out the nearby pagan ritual site.) I think the vituperation is perhaps a teeny bit over the top.

In reply to Andy Clarke:

vituperation is a good word for a Thursday.

In reply to Andy Clarke:

He could have declined the interview. Just because the press come calling doesn't mean you have to talk to them.  (He could perhaps have avoided the issue in the first place by being more careful about who has access to his Facebook posts.)

In reply to Martin W:

Yes he could. But has succumbing to the lure of your fifteen minutes of fame really done harm? I'm surprised anyone who knows where this spot is seriously thinks this little bit of press attention is going to contribute to overcrowding in Eryri.

In reply to ExiledScot:

Maybe I'm reading it wrong by not having seen the videos, but why would you need climbing gear for a scramble?

In reply to FactorXXX:

You don't, but if you're not capable of moving smoothly and steadily, instead looking unsteady, lots of move searching etc.. then maybe a grade 2/3 scramble isn't the place to be with out some level of extra security options. Of course it could be staged to look more challenging and really they are a mid Es leader. Who knows, but it's not ideal to give the impression that it's the kind of terrain to be on without any consideration protection. Even if competently soloing, a helmet alone isn't a bad idea. 

In reply to FactorXXX:

In case you fall off?

In reply to While E. Coyote:

Took me 4 mins to find, and 3 minutes of that was OS Maps app loading. Next...

In reply to ExiledScot:

I’ve scrambled up that spur and recall that most of the way near the top I was in a shallow scree gully just right of the crest. Rather loose and unpleasant, very steep and verging on the dangerous. One of those routes where you think: done that, but I won’t repeat it.

In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

The one I  saw was I think 200m up northwest face route, roughly where you can sneak across to the terrace at the top of the slabs upper tier.

In reply to While E. Coyote:

In other news...

Someone crapped on the edge of this massive drop that only rock climbers know about

Social Media User Takes SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS Dump in EXPOSED Position

Darren Blowhard recently went viral for his post on InstantCrap. Followers were flabbergasted by the photos of Darren and "the lads" wild-drinking tinnies in one of the most popular and accessible parts of the Mount Snowdon national park.

The spot has been catapulted into the limelight after Darren (36) captioned the photos: "got caught short and had to take a dump on the cliff edge... totally wild LOLz". Followers have since been speculating on the possible whereabouts, eager to loosen their bowels at such a breathtaking location.

"I really can't overexaggerate how outrageous that spot is," Darren told us. But, he admits that his voyage into the unchartered wilderness wasn't all plain sailing.

"I must admit," said Darren, "when we arrived the curry we had in Bethesda the night before had begun to take hold."

Hundreds of comments appeared on Darren's InstantCrap account within hours of him posting, catapulting him to international mediocrity within minutes. One user commented: "want to lose lbs fast? we show you how with our free programme." Another speculated: "folloin the croud mkes you a sheepole, Brian Gates just wants to control you mind man."

Darren, an experienced wild-pooper, warned others not to attempt to repeat his experience without the necessary skills and equipment. "I've pooped all over the Alps, to be fair", Darren told us, expressing a desire for his leavings to remain hidden. "Extreme scatology has become really popular these days, but in some places you can't move for strewn bog roll."

In reply to Phil79:

I found the nice E7 below it fairly quickly.. I reckon that should be the entry requirement..