/ Sheep on Kinder

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Groundhog - on 09 Jan 2019

There are 30 to 35 sheep on Kinder Low today.

I believe they should not be there. Where do I report this.

Billhook - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

I'm not familiar with Kinder Low, but I assume this is open moorland?  If so farmers with sheep grazing rights on that moor will be able to graze sheep on there.

It is not unusual to put hardy sheep out on the hills in winter where they can be fed hay later when there is snow on't ground or brought off the hill if the snow is likely to stay.

Why do you think they should not be there?  If you think this grazing is 'illegal'  in that the owner of the sheep is causing them to trespass on land not belonging to the owner of the sheep,  it is a civil offence and the police cannot really get involved.  In which case you will have to find the land owner, probably an estate, or simply go to a local farmer and ask him/her who manages or controls the grazing.

It may also be the case that the land is controlled by a court leet - but your farmer will know for sure.

 

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Timmd on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

I could contact a friend who has been involved in what's been happening on top of Kinder in case it's anything to worry about if you want.

Edit: Just have. 

Post edited at 17:59
Shani - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

>  Where do I report this.

Mountain Resc-ewe.

Seriously though, are they bah-ed from Kinder?

Post edited at 18:04
r0b on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Billhook:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-11761236

Sheep have been kept off Kinder to allow regeneration of the moorland which had been overgrazed. That link says it was a 5 year project though so maybe sheep are allowed there again now?

McHeath - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Shani:

> Seriously though, are they bah-ed from Kinder?

They should be, they're ram-pant and are causing shear bedlamb.

 

Darren Jackson - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

Sheep were very nearly the Downfall of Kinder. There's Noe place for them. 

leon 1 on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Darren Jackson:

Please stop lambasting them. It's tough living tup there.

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Tom V - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to leon 1:

Not sure wether any of ewe are taking this post seriously. 

Minneconjou Sioux on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Tom V:

Whoever let them up there should get a good roast...…………………………………...ing

Mark Bannan - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

> There are 30 to 35 sheep on Kinder Low today.

> I believe they should not be there...

Why? Are the sheep being "threatened"(!) in some way?

 

Frank R. on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

They should be eweicted at once! Whoever let them in should be lambasted!

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teh_mark on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

You lot are terrible. With that sort of humour I'd be feeling very sheepish right now.

FactorXXX - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

No sheep til Buxton! 

 

Gordon Stainforth - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

You really mutton get too upset by it.

leon 1 on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to FactorXXX:

That's because they're sheepless in Settle

mrphilipoldham - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to r0b:

There’s a fenced in section which spans most of the northern edges, which is where I believe the ‘ban’ is. There’s signage on the fencing advising of a phone number to call in case of finding damaged fencing or indeed, sheep.

Shani - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

> ...advising of a phone number to call in case of finding damaged fencing or indeed, sheep.

Which network OT-ewe?

Bulls Crack - on 09 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

The fence was completed in 2013 and Kinder Low is certainly within the exclusion area. It may be kosher (lamb certainly can be) but you could check with the National Trust who manage the land. 01433 670368

Groundhog - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

Glad to see that folk on here have not lost their sense of humour!

Seriously the National Trust phone number that is on the fence would not work yesterday. I have just tried it again and now it does. I have spoken to the relevant person who is going to look into it.

 

n-stacey - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

I understand that they are also on Bleatlow!!

wercat on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to leon 1:

> That's because they're sheepless in Settle


Winner

McHeath - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

I was up there this morning and one of the ewes seemed familiar; I think I've seen herbivore.

Bulls Crack - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to McHeath:

That was kinda your downfall wasn't it?

what the hex on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

Misread this as 'Sheep on Tinder' - and laughed

cragtyke on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

Isn't there some info on this in the guidebook for the area, Ovine the Moors?

Billhook - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to r0b:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/hilltalk/sheep_on_kinder-698611?v=1#x8920479

 

Thanks for that Rob - I don't frequent that far south so I wasn't aware of the situation, although I am aware of the erosion problems.   Sheep will add to it.

McHeath - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to Bulls Crack:

> That was kinda your downfall wasn't it?

Yeah I was disappointed, she wasn't in condition

DaveHK - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to Groundhog:

>  I believe they should not be there.

Was it a kinder surprise?

 

leon 1 on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to McHeath:  Didnt you know about the video ? (No not that one, another one about the 'true' story of the over grazing on Kinder - It really is well worth a watch Its definitely into Reservoir Sheep territory ! )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY5MmhLQBng

 

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McHeath - on 10 Jan 2019
In reply to DaveHK:

> >  I believe they should not be there.

> Was it a kinder surprise?

One of them was wearing an expensive running watch, which looked kind of antipodean. The word is that its Gar mint' sauce tralian.


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