In reply to Michael Hood:
> By having a look on HeavensAbove (great website - have a play with the ISS), from my location (yours won't be that different) at 5:30, Jupiter was at about 62deg so towards E and Venus was at about 212deg so not far off SE - both very low at that time; Mars not visible until about 8:30.
> It's also got a good visualisation of exactly how much crud a certain Mr Musk has put up there.
I will, thanks. A very early start for me tomorrow, might see a few stars and sunrise.