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Anybody been up Tryfan in recent weeks?

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 OPDave 13 Jun 2011
If so when you got to the top, is there still a plaque to a young lad called Ethan Chant up there? And also is the booklet still round Adam and Eve?

Cheers

OP
 Fatboy1000 13 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave: Was up there a few weeks ago on the bank holiday weekend. Plaque is still there, although didnt see anything else.
Dr.Strangeglove 13 Jun 2011
In reply to bencarroll:
where is this plaque?
 Fatboy1000 13 Jun 2011
In reply to Dr.Strangeglove: Just east of the Adam and Eve rocks at the summit.
 EeeByGum 13 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave: Was up there on Saturday and saw neither book nor plaque, but then I wan't really looking.
OP OPDave 13 Jun 2011
In reply to EeeByGum:

Cheers guys!
 Mark Kemball 13 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave: I have to ask, why has a plaque been placed near the summit of Tryfan?
OP OPDave 13 Jun 2011
In reply to Mark Kemball: A good friend of mine on my college course (outdoor education) Died saving his older brother off the coast of spain (hence died a hero, lived a legend) on the plaque. And he had done many mountains in the UK and Tryfan was his favorite although he never actually got the chance to climb it so we did it and took him with us!

OP
In reply to OPDave:

Sorry to hear about your mate, but it's normally thought to be rather poor form to leave this sort of memorial plaque about the hills. We all love the hills, and if we all left plaques in our favourite spots it wouldn't really do. You might want to move it.

jcm
 Trangia 13 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave:

Whilst I am sorry to hear about the loss of your friend who sounds a real hero, I have to agree with John. Leaving memorials, plaques, flowers etc on hills and mountains is not considered good form for the reasons he has stated.

The fact that you thought so much of him to climb it in his memory is the real tribute.
OP OPDave 13 Jun 2011
In reply to johncoxmysteriously: its literally no bigger than a hand then mounted onto wood then glued as to not damage the mountain in any way! Although i do understand your point.

OP
 jimjimjim 13 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave: sorry to hear about you're friend but i can't agree with this. If i see anything like this i remove it. I sure someone will beat me to it though. If your friend loved the hills so much would he like to see them covered in things like this?
 Mark Kemball 13 Jun 2011
 GrahamD 13 Jun 2011
In reply to Mark Kemball:

Well put. Tryfan in particular must be dear to the hearts of many hill lovers. It really would spoil the special feel of the place for everyone if everyone who loved the place had a memorial placed there.
ropedandready 13 Jun 2011
In reply to Mark Kemball: I totally agree, we only have to imagine what the top of Tryfan would look like if everyone who loved the mountian put a memorial plaque near the summit.
 Billhook 13 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave:

I'm sorry but I rather think you should remove it too.

Even on the North York Moors there are a plethora of recent 'memorials'. which look rather odd and out of place in such situations in my opinion.
 AnnaSpanna 14 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave: Was also there on the bank holiday and didn't see anything. There's another plaque just south of the summit by the steep drop on the left as you head south the name on it is Chris burrows, you have to lean over the edge to see it and for some reason I always stop there a moment or two and have a think.

I am sorry for your loss and although I agree that scattering ashes and plaques arnt good, I welcome the 'poke' to take a moment to consider myself and where I am. Perhaps temporary memorials are the compromise?
In reply to AnnaSpanna:
> I am sorry for your loss and although I agree that scattering ashes and plaques arnt good, I welcome the 'poke' to take a moment to consider myself and where I am. Perhaps temporary memorials are the compromise?

I read something a while back - can't remember where - about some people who placed a memorial to their friend on a hill in Glencoe. They were savvy enough to be aware that most other people would frown up this, so they chose to place it in a discreet spot on a random large rock, not one that most people using the paths would find and not visible then unless you knew where it was.

Now whilst I'm wholly in agreement with the sentiment that the hills should not be cluttered with the memorials of those who held them dear, were I the OP I'd take the ideas expressed above and re-position the memorial in accordance with them. I'd also then keep quiet about it.

Just my £0.02...

T.

 Mark Kemball 14 Jun 2011
In reply to AnnaSpanna:
> ...although I agree that scattering ashes and plaques arnt good...
I don't see anything wrong with scattering ashes - they soon disappear. Although I did hear a story about someone's ashes being solomnly scattered near Adam and Eve in a fairly blustery wind and some unrelated people having rather gritty sandwiches!
 AnnaSpanna 14 Jun 2011
In reply to Mark Kemball: Yes but there's some evidence that suggests ashes have a considerable effect on the mountains ecology. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1508784/Cremation-ashes-bring-barren...
 Mark Kemball 14 Jun 2011
In reply to AnnaSpanna: Thanks for that link - I may have to rethink my plans for the future!
OP OPDave 14 Jun 2011
It will be removed in a few weeks time, thanks for the views.
OP OPDave 14 Jun 2011
But may i also ask, that nobody else removes it before we get the chance!
 Trangia 14 Jun 2011
In reply to OPDave:
> But may i also ask, that nobody else removes it before we get the chance!

I think that's very reasonable and I hope everyone will repect that.

 stevev 14 Jun 2011
In reply to Trangia:
> (In reply to OPDave)
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> I think that's very reasonable and I hope everyone will repect that.
assuming the whole world doesn't read this post, it is possible that someone else removes it beforehand


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