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I came to climbing via sailing and I have 'belayed' ropes for years. In climbing I found that 'we' pronounce 'belay', 'bee-lay'.
http://m-w.com/dictionary/belay. Very clearly in the audio example on this page the emphasis is on the 2nd syllable - like 'delay' but not like 'relay' as in a relay race.
Light blue touch paper and retreat...
http://m-w.com/dictionary/belay. Very clearly in the audio example on this page the emphasis is on the 2nd syllable - like 'delay' but not like 'relay' as in a relay race.
Light blue touch paper and retreat...
In reply to Nigel Modern: PS Happy New Year
In reply to Nigel Modern: i wonder if there's a noun / verb thing
to belay
a belay
i have no idea btw
to belay
a belay
i have no idea btw
In reply to Nigel Modern: I've always wondered about this. I say Bee-lay.
In reply to Nigel Modern:
Is it the 5th Nov already?
> I came to climbing via sailing and I have 'belayed' ropes for years. In climbing I found that 'we' pronounce 'belay', 'bee-lay'.
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> http://m-w.com/dictionary/belay. Very clearly in the audio example on this page the emphasis is on the 2nd syllable - like 'delay' but not like 'relay' as in a relay race.
>
> Light blue touch paper and retreat...
>
> http://m-w.com/dictionary/belay. Very clearly in the audio example on this page the emphasis is on the 2nd syllable - like 'delay' but not like 'relay' as in a relay race.
>
> Light blue touch paper and retreat...
Is it the 5th Nov already?
In reply to Nigel Modern: Bee-Lay..... the other way just makes it sound queer!
In reply to Glyn Jones: No but I might be burnt at the stake like Guy Fawkes
In reply to DaveWarb: But to me, having sailed for years and sung sea shanties with belay in them where bee-lay won't scan...can't think of one just now but others may be able to help...'bee-lay' sounds odd.
In reply to DaveWarb: im with you mate, watching "K2" movie the other day, and they say it the other way, it just sounds wrong, and gay, not that the 2 things are necessarily interlinked (for the benefit of those that might flame me)
In reply to Nigel Modern:
It's "Bee-Lay".
Only seppo's pronounce it the way it is here http://m-w.com/dictionary/belay.
Usually when they are sending a "rowt"
The Ent
It's "Bee-Lay".
Only seppo's pronounce it the way it is here http://m-w.com/dictionary/belay.
Usually when they are sending a "rowt"
The Ent
In reply to Nigel Modern:
Bee-lay.
Belay just sounds too nautical, and I'd have an urge to add "Me hearties" or similar...
Bee-lay.
Belay just sounds too nautical, and I'd have an urge to add "Me hearties" or similar...
In reply to Nigel Modern: ...and auto-bee-lay sounds like scanning speech eg robot or someone with speech defect after a stroke.
In reply to Nigel Modern:
After various clicking around on a certain popular internet video website, it seems that those with North American tendencies seem to say "b'lay". Brits, on the other hand, seem to usually say "bee-lay".
After various clicking around on a certain popular internet video website, it seems that those with North American tendencies seem to say "b'lay". Brits, on the other hand, seem to usually say "bee-lay".
In reply to Ridge: Shiver me timbers...and all the better for it
In reply to Nigel Modern: Iy, i've never been involved with Sailing, and as you may have guessed, i don't do much in the way of sing Sea Shanties!! . Hope you didn't think my statement was directed at you, i was simply voicing my opinion.... To me Belaay sounds wierd.... how do you yell 'Belaay' down a crag when your saying "OFF BE-LAY!"
In reply to fxceltic: I realised after i had wrong "Queer" that it might give the wrong idea... i simply meant. Odd.. it just sounds odd to me!
In reply to robotninja: b'lay isn't it either...sounds too like m'lud which is not how you 'belay' a rope in sailing. More like how you 'relay a message' to someone.
In reply to DaveWarb: Good point...language responds to situational need...this may be the reason for the variance...
In reply to Nigel Modern: how do you yell 'Belaay' down a crag when your saying "OFF BE-LAY!"
Good point...language responds to situational need...this may be the reason for the variance...
Good point...language responds to situational need...this may be the reason for the variance...
In reply to Nigel Modern: actually I shout'Off Belaaaaaaay'
In reply to Nigel Modern: I concede. However, the way i pronouce it will always be "Bee-lay!!" but theres nothing that will stop the other different ways of prounoucing it! b'lay,Bee-lay or belaay
In reply to DaveWarb: In that case i dont concede..... you need to continue with the BEEEEE for full effectiveness.... have you ever had a problem on windy days with your partner not hearing you!
In reply to Nigel Modern:
what about traverse?
i say trav-URSE but have heard TRAV-us a la Robin Barker in Hard Grit.
what about traverse?
i say trav-URSE but have heard TRAV-us a la Robin Barker in Hard Grit.
In reply to ROFFER: That's true. Seems to be the older generations that seem to say TRAV-US..... but maybe thats just around where i live.
Anyway,I say Trav-URSE
Anyway,I say Trav-URSE
In reply to robotninja:
I started climbing regularly whilst working in the US, thus was taught the American pronunciation "b'lay". Everyone took the piss when I started climbing over here. I'm not sure which one I would say now.
Used to attach myself to things using angel wings rather than cows tails too.
> After various clicking around on a certain popular internet video website, it seems that those with North American tendencies seem to say "b'lay". Brits, on the other hand, seem to usually say "bee-lay".
I started climbing regularly whilst working in the US, thus was taught the American pronunciation "b'lay". Everyone took the piss when I started climbing over here. I'm not sure which one I would say now.
Used to attach myself to things using angel wings rather than cows tails too.
In reply to ROFFER: what about traverse?
i say trav-URSE but have heard TRAV-us a la Robin Barker in Hard Grit.
Isn't language wonderful? I say tomato, you say tomato...(doesn't come across so well typed)
What I find amusing is when people try to correct me (unconsciously more often than not) by repeating what I've said pronounced 'correctly'.
i say trav-URSE but have heard TRAV-us a la Robin Barker in Hard Grit.
Isn't language wonderful? I say tomato, you say tomato...(doesn't come across so well typed)
What I find amusing is when people try to correct me (unconsciously more often than not) by repeating what I've said pronounced 'correctly'.
In reply to ebygomm: Used to attach myself to things using angel wings rather than cows tails too
From now on it's an angel wing...brilliant
From now on it's an angel wing...brilliant
In reply to DaveWarb: In that case i dont concede..... you need to continue with the BEEEEE for full effectiveness.... have you ever had a problem on windy days with your partner not hearing you!
yes but so have you, or else why do you ask?
yes but so have you, or else why do you ask?
In reply to Nigel Modern:
When they laughed, my argument was "your 50ft up in the air, would you rather have cows tails or angel wings?"
> From now on it's an angel wing...brilliant
When they laughed, my argument was "your 50ft up in the air, would you rather have cows tails or angel wings?"
In reply to rich: i wonder if there's a noun / verb thing
to belay
a belay
i have no idea btw
sorry, missed this one...people pronounce it the same either way I think...
to belay
a belay
i have no idea btw
sorry, missed this one...people pronounce it the same either way I think...
In reply to ebygomm: When they laughed, my argument was "your 50ft up in the air, would you rather have cows tails or angel wings?"
Definitely angel wings
Definitely angel wings
In reply to Nigel Modern:
In my experience Americans (and New Zealanders) say beLAY, we say BEELay.
jcm
In my experience Americans (and New Zealanders) say beLAY, we say BEELay.
jcm
In reply to Nigel Modern: i pronounce it bee-lay, the otherp pronunciation just sounds wrong IMO.
In reply to Nigel Modern: Just to confuse matters I would like to propose BEH-lay.
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:
Americans tend to stress the second syllable whereas people from the UK will stress the first, e.g.:
BEE-lay vs beLAY
ADult vs aDULT
boB
Americans tend to stress the second syllable whereas people from the UK will stress the first, e.g.:
BEE-lay vs beLAY
ADult vs aDULT
boB
In reply to Nigel Modern:
More often than not? Is what i meant to ask...
Never really done much Multi-pitching so im yet to find out how loud i have to bellow over a high wind..etc/
> yes but so have you, or else why do you ask?
More often than not? Is what i meant to ask...
Never really done much Multi-pitching so im yet to find out how loud i have to bellow over a high wind..etc/
In reply to Nigel Modern:
What about when it's used like so: It doesn't belay the fact that...
I would pronounce it as per "delay", but in climbing, I'd use "beelay".
What about when it's used like so: It doesn't belay the fact that...
I would pronounce it as per "delay", but in climbing, I'd use "beelay".
In reply to darren-surrey:
When it's used like that the literate prefer to spell it 'belie'.
jcm
> (In reply to Nigel Modern)
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> What about when it's used like so: It doesn't belay the fact that...
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> What about when it's used like so: It doesn't belay the fact that...
When it's used like that the literate prefer to spell it 'belie'.
jcm
In reply to Nigel Modern: I don't really care how you pronounce it when I can have hours of fun sitting there clicking the audio clips.
Belay belay belay belayer belay belayer belay belay belay belay etc
Belay belay belay belayer belay belayer belay belay belay belay etc
In reply to tommyzero: OMG... it does rude words as well. Dynamite!
Seriously though if you adopted the pronunciations of this site you'd be laughed out of the UK.
Seriously though if you adopted the pronunciations of this site you'd be laughed out of the UK.
In reply to Nigel Modern:
you know when you say/hear a word over and over again it sounds really odd...?!
you know when you say/hear a word over and over again it sounds really odd...?!
In reply to Nigel Modern: I'm posh me, I say bur-lay as I quaff my Lambrini on the bur-lay ledge.
In reply to Nigel Modern:
I say belay
I say belay
In reply to Morgan Woods: i alternate eg belaay plate and beelay jacket :o
Now that's just confusing Morgan...actually I suspect others do this too. I'm only consistent because of thesailing context and seem locked into it and don't even think about it until someone looks at me funny.
Now that's just confusing Morgan...actually I suspect others do this too. I'm only consistent because of thesailing context and seem locked into it and don't even think about it until someone looks at me funny.
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:
I thought it looked wrong but checked on the web...
> (In reply to darren-surrey)
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> When it's used like that the literate prefer to spell it 'belie'.
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> jcm
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> When it's used like that the literate prefer to spell it 'belie'.
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> jcm
I thought it looked wrong but checked on the web...
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