In reply to Seymore Butt:
My post got some dislikes as i knew it would, but im doubling down.
Is there anybody on here who has ever fallen twice or witnessed a friend of theirs falling twice on a route 16 grades below their current redpoint limit, or anything even remotely close to this? When you have that much strength to spare you can miss every good hold, faff the sequence, not even bother looking at your feet and still pull through. Falling once is incredibly unlikely but believable twice makes me skeptical.
I think it is difficult to compare my own climbing with this because 16 grades below my limit and we are talking grade 4, this is really a crazy easy grade and really a different kind of climbing. more relevant would be climbers i know who can redpoint 8c+, now 16 grades below this is 6a+, i feel their really is no chance of an 8c+ climber falling twice on a 6a+, it aint gonna happen.
Now i know what the reply to this thread will be, lots of people will tell me that it is entirely possible for adam to fall twice, why would he possibly fake it, why would i question it, lots of people will have stories of people falling of things way below their limit but no one is going to actually have dropped 16 grades twice.
The only feasible way i can see someone dropping close to that many grades is if a very strong pure sport climber were to try a sandstone splitter crack (i have seen this), but even then 16 grades is a bit much.
Maybe he really did fall and the whole universe aligned against him, maybe he fell once and then realised it would make a funny video if he did it again?
BTW obviously if someone quits climbing and gains 30 kg this is entirely possible, but ondra is in the middle of olympic training and onsighting 8c the next day.