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BStar - on 07 Apr 2018

Nightmare (S 4a)

Yeaterday I was climbing at sea walls on Morpheus and a climber shouted up to us from the car park saying that the large fir tree on Nightmare appears to have shifted into a more horizontal position. It was getting dark so when we got to the bottom we had a look at compared it to the photo in the guide book but couldn’t come to any decision. The guy mentioned that someone from the BMC might be going to take a look at it, but this is all the info I currently have. If anyone else can add anything it would be appreciated. It’s a huge tree and if it’s falling down then it’s a massive hazard in that area. 

 

Climb safe

James Mann - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to BStar:

This is true. I was contacted about this yesterday. A BMC volunteer is going to take a look at this today and remove the steel strop from the tree. The root ball is exposed and the tree has moved considerably from the vertical and is now overhanging the gorge. When I have more info I'll post here and on the RAD. I would suggest that for the time being, this area of Sea Walls is avoided.

 

James Mann (BMC SW Area Chair)

d_b on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to BStar:

I just fired a mail to the AMC list to let people know to take care.  The forecast makes it unlikely that anyone will try climbing there for a few days though.

I live fairly close so I might pop over and take a look later.

badgerjockey - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

Is it worth contacting the tree team/ecologist at Bristol City Council? Failing that the Avon Gorge and Downs Wildlife Project who manage the conservation of the SSSI? They could organise an arborist to assess it. It may be a case of removal to prevent an accident.

My feeling is that even without the strop or with a sign, someone will use it in its poor condition anyway...

James Mann - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to badgerjockey:

This is in hand. 

James

d_b on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

Ended up not abbing down, as the vounteers James mentioned were having a poke around when I arrived.  It turns out I know them so I invited them in for a cup of tea and dug out some old (2016) pics for comparison purposes.  They were planning to go back and reproduce the exact shot so they can directly compare the angles.

Incidentally The first pitch of Nightmare was the one dry line at the sea walls.

d_b on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

Forgot to link to the pic.  It is currently at this angle: http://www.spectral3d.co.uk/misc/IMG_0114.JPG

 

Fakey Rocks - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

Wow that would make for some steep tree climbing.... Is it equipped with lower off rings?

Poor tree, I suppose it's had an interesting good old life. At least no neighbours could send the tree vandals in early with complaints that it was blocking their view. 

Post edited at 18:07
Cheese Monkey - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

I'm fairly sure it used to be pretty much vertical!

d_b on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to Fakey Rocks:

It has a cable and maillon IIRC.  Barry was going to take them off but couldn't get it undone.

Not sure what the plan B is if the tree goes away - never even looked for alternative belays on any of the occasions I have climbed it.

beardy mike - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

There's not a huge amount there! I've taken a look... mind you I'm betting there's a great big crack under the tree...

Mayaculpa - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to BStar: Thanks for the info. This is how it looked in October 2013.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mayaculpa/40403945375/

d_b on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to beardy mike:

Size 8 tricam you think?

James Mann - on 07 Apr 2018
In reply to James Mann:

I have uploaded a photo of this in my gallery. It has not been possible to remove the maillon as it was glued shut in the first place. This belay/abseil station should NOT BE USED! The area around and below the tree should be treated with great caution and it may be more sensible to climb elsewhere in the gorge until this issue is resolved. The BMC are aware and are working on informing the landowner and resolving this.

 

James Mann

 

 

James Mann - on 08 Apr 2018
Lil_Pete - on 08 Apr 2018
In reply to beardy mike:

The slab to the left of the tree is laced with perfect cracks where Last Slip, Padansac pop up, a bit of a detour perhaps but far more comfortable a belay spot than that dusty, rooty spot.

Isn’t there a patch of gear at the beginning of the second patch of Sleepwalk too on that yellow face. It’s been a while since I climbed it for a while with gear so not 100% sure.

End of the day it’s a few moves on the last pitch up to the next load of trees if people do want to abseil off or you can walk up left and do the last pitch of Sleepwalk as a nice alternative. 

 

flour - on 08 Apr 2018
In reply to James Mann:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GOB1u0scWw

Scroll to 9:20 to see how it looked 5 years ago

Post edited at 16:45
thomasadixon - on 08 Apr 2018
In reply to davidbeynon:

Drove past today - wow, that’s a major shift!  Shame to see it go.

James Mann - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to thomasadixon:

Bump

Fakey Rocks - on 09 Apr 2018
In reply to BStar:

Why hasn't the person who took a factor 2 fall on the tree owned up yet? ;) Hope they r OK....

badgerjockey - on 14 Apr 2018
In reply to James Mann:

Did the tree get looked at?

Kevster - on 14 Apr 2018
In reply to Fakey Rocks:

Been a number of serious accidents in the last couple of years at Avon. Maybe be cautious with jokes around safety issues?

Fakey Rocks - on 14 Apr 2018
In reply to Kevster:

Fair point .... 

richsmithinbristol - on 15 Apr 2018
In reply to BStar:

I have updated the route description on the UKC log book to advise people the tree is unstable and should not be used for abseiling. If there are any changes after the BMC inspection let me know and I can update.

James Mann - on 15 Apr 2018
In reply to richsmithinbristol:

Thanks very much. 

 

James


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