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I'm not starting or peddling any conspiracies, just more a honest question asking what are they - if indeed any do exist?
According to many people, the speed with which OBL's body was 'dealt with' and its burial (if indeed it was buried...), means that the conspiracy theorists will be thriving. Not to mention the ways in which the American authorities have affirmed that they identified and so got "their man".
So my question is really what are the conspiracies? Are the theorists saying that the Americans are lying and so are risking OBL popping up somewhere and having an enormous laugh at their expense? If OBL did die many years ago (as other theories I've read have claimed), why was that not reported or celebrated? Or is something rather more weird and unwieldly (New World Order, Obama really born in Kuala Lumpar, Reptillian Aliens, etc) being proposed?
According to many people, the speed with which OBL's body was 'dealt with' and its burial (if indeed it was buried...), means that the conspiracy theorists will be thriving. Not to mention the ways in which the American authorities have affirmed that they identified and so got "their man".
So my question is really what are the conspiracies? Are the theorists saying that the Americans are lying and so are risking OBL popping up somewhere and having an enormous laugh at their expense? If OBL did die many years ago (as other theories I've read have claimed), why was that not reported or celebrated? Or is something rather more weird and unwieldly (New World Order, Obama really born in Kuala Lumpar, Reptillian Aliens, etc) being proposed?
In reply to paul-1970:
the error you seem to be making is thinking logic will play a part in these theories.
the error you seem to be making is thinking logic will play a part in these theories.
In reply to paul-1970:
> I'm not starting or peddling any conspiracies, just more a honest question asking what are they - if indeed any do exist?
>
I saw him driving a taxi in West London last night. Seemed a bit conspicuous to me. >
In reply to paul-1970:
He wasn't killed when they said he was. Nobody takes Bins out on bank holidays...
/got coat, on my way out...
He wasn't killed when they said he was. Nobody takes Bins out on bank holidays...
/got coat, on my way out...
In reply to Romeo and Juliet (II, ii, 1-2):
Yes, and apparently it WAS a conspiracy that his house had no telephone or intenet connection 'cos his last Facebook status said:
"BRB, someone at the door"
Yes, and apparently it WAS a conspiracy that his house had no telephone or intenet connection 'cos his last Facebook status said:
"BRB, someone at the door"
In reply to paul-1970:
I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me, why if they knew where he might be since last august why pick the weekend of the royal wedding unless the president of the USA is miffed at how mad people have gone for us brits and he didn't even get an invite, its like they couldn't cope with all eyes on us doing what we do best they have to get the attention of the world back on them.
Just a random thought I had.
I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me, why if they knew where he might be since last august why pick the weekend of the royal wedding unless the president of the USA is miffed at how mad people have gone for us brits and he didn't even get an invite, its like they couldn't cope with all eyes on us doing what we do best they have to get the attention of the world back on them.
Just a random thought I had.
In reply to paul-1970:
You can't kill someone who never existed in the first place.....
You can't kill someone who never existed in the first place.....
In reply to Hannah S:
It's because he knew that OBL and his henchmen would be off-guard, eyes glued to the TV, saying "Look, Abdullah, by the grace of Allah, how beautiful is that dress?! When I get to Jannah, I will request that my 72 virgins all be similarly clad, Inshallah! And the flowers, they will be specially prepared in Lincolnshire by Hanners binte S."
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me, why if they knew where he might be since last august why pick the weekend of the royal wedding unless the president of the USA is miffed at how mad people have gone for us brits and he didn't even get an invite, its like they couldn't cope with all eyes on us doing what we do best they have to get the attention of the world back on them.
> I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me, why if they knew where he might be since last august why pick the weekend of the royal wedding unless the president of the USA is miffed at how mad people have gone for us brits and he didn't even get an invite, its like they couldn't cope with all eyes on us doing what we do best they have to get the attention of the world back on them.
It's because he knew that OBL and his henchmen would be off-guard, eyes glued to the TV, saying "Look, Abdullah, by the grace of Allah, how beautiful is that dress?! When I get to Jannah, I will request that my 72 virgins all be similarly clad, Inshallah! And the flowers, they will be specially prepared in Lincolnshire by Hanners binte S."
In reply to Hannah S: Yes, a serious contender for the Most Random Thought of the Year.
In reply to Hannah S:
I thought that they specifically waited until after the wedding to avoid any retribution being aimed at the couple.
I also think that they still have Bin Laden's body and it is being hidden in that big warehouse in Indiana Jones.
Joking aside, keeping the body would be a security nightmare.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me, why if they knew where he might be since last august why pick the weekend of the royal wedding unless the president of the USA is miffed at how mad people have gone for us brits and he didn't even get an invite, its like they couldn't cope with all eyes on us doing what we do best they have to get the attention of the world back on them.
>
> Just a random thought I had.
> I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me, why if they knew where he might be since last august why pick the weekend of the royal wedding unless the president of the USA is miffed at how mad people have gone for us brits and he didn't even get an invite, its like they couldn't cope with all eyes on us doing what we do best they have to get the attention of the world back on them.
>
> Just a random thought I had.
I thought that they specifically waited until after the wedding to avoid any retribution being aimed at the couple.
I also think that they still have Bin Laden's body and it is being hidden in that big warehouse in Indiana Jones.
Joking aside, keeping the body would be a security nightmare.
In reply to Hannah S:
A random thought in your best tradition, Hannah! It's definitely a fantastic conspiracy to think all this was held over from last August 'cos the Americans knew that this weekend a few hats and a snog on the balcony would take the attention off them!
Re: your other thread Hannah, about being away from this site for a few days. You're not in the territorials and you're just back from an overseas training mission, are you?
A random thought in your best tradition, Hannah! It's definitely a fantastic conspiracy to think all this was held over from last August 'cos the Americans knew that this weekend a few hats and a snog on the balcony would take the attention off them!
Re: your other thread Hannah, about being away from this site for a few days. You're not in the territorials and you're just back from an overseas training mission, are you?
In reply to Hannah S:
hmm, lets hope harry doesnt get married anytime soon then. God knows who they would feel obliged to attack.
I feel sorry for the pope, his big beatification ceremony for the last pope was somewhat overshadowed.
> Just a random thought I had.
hmm, lets hope harry doesnt get married anytime soon then. God knows who they would feel obliged to attack.
I feel sorry for the pope, his big beatification ceremony for the last pope was somewhat overshadowed.
In reply to dissonance:
Ahh, but the present pope probably arranged that so the previous boss didn't get all the glory, or at least arranged it to piss on his parade.
So maybe Benedict was there swinging through the windows with Chuck and the boys?
Ahh, but the present pope probably arranged that so the previous boss didn't get all the glory, or at least arranged it to piss on his parade.
So maybe Benedict was there swinging through the windows with Chuck and the boys?
In reply to Hannah S:
Less cynical/random and more a bit weird and unhinged. You don't seriously think this do you?
Less cynical/random and more a bit weird and unhinged. You don't seriously think this do you?
They've been gathering intelligence and practicing since last August. They claim they didn't have enough evidence until last week. I think the Americans would have definitely held off until after the wedding. I can't believe that Cameron wouldn't have known about this and had some say. It would have major diplomatic repercussions if they stormed the compound last week and there had been a reprise attack on Friday.
The security forces had enough to worry about as it was.
The security forces had enough to worry about as it was.
In reply to TimR: Please tell me you are joking.
In reply to TimR: If there is a conspiracy theory that could be believed, it would be that they nabbed him alive and have covered this up with his "death". and now they will try and get as much info out of him as possible before dumping him at sea or the Nevada desert...etc.
In reply to Michael Woods:
But wouldn't the authorities readily admit to that? Why would they run the risk of detaining him secretly somewhere, when they would claim they have a legitimate reason to do so?
They could say they've got him and they're 'de-briefing' him ahead of his trial? Then if they do decide to bump him off instead of publicly martrying him with a death sentence, they can blame kidney failure (as the OBL died years ago theories go).
But as the voice of dissonance says, I'm applying logic here!
> (In reply to TimR) If there is a conspiracy theory that could be believed, it would be that they nabbed him alive and have covered this up with his "death". and now they will try and get as much info out of him as possible before dumping him at sea or the Nevada desert...etc.
But wouldn't the authorities readily admit to that? Why would they run the risk of detaining him secretly somewhere, when they would claim they have a legitimate reason to do so?
They could say they've got him and they're 'de-briefing' him ahead of his trial? Then if they do decide to bump him off instead of publicly martrying him with a death sentence, they can blame kidney failure (as the OBL died years ago theories go).
But as the voice of dissonance says, I'm applying logic here!
In reply to paul-1970:
Im pretty certain the thing about him using his wife as a shield, and refusing to surernder peacefully is completely fabricated ny the americans,
if they were doing the operation right, they would have gone in while he was definitely asleep, and gone in too quickly for him to react (a la uk drugs busts)
I dont doubt thats how they would have done it, their story is just designed to humiliate him.
I do however, believe that the burial at sea thing was nothing to do with a conspiracy, I cant see a better way to have dealt with his death and his body to avoid shrines/martyrdom/repercussions.
Im pretty certain the thing about him using his wife as a shield, and refusing to surernder peacefully is completely fabricated ny the americans,
if they were doing the operation right, they would have gone in while he was definitely asleep, and gone in too quickly for him to react (a la uk drugs busts)
I dont doubt thats how they would have done it, their story is just designed to humiliate him.
I do however, believe that the burial at sea thing was nothing to do with a conspiracy, I cant see a better way to have dealt with his death and his body to avoid shrines/martyrdom/repercussions.
In reply to dissonance:
The logic in this is to question,there is no difference between a fool who believes and a fool who dos'nt.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
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> the error you seem to be making is thinking logic will play a part in these theories.
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> the error you seem to be making is thinking logic will play a part in these theories.
The logic in this is to question,there is no difference between a fool who believes and a fool who dos'nt.
In reply to Rob Exile Ward:
No. I'm serious. I don't think the US just go ahead and do whatever they want. Whatever the press want us to believe. They need our support for many things, not least all their air bases and we seem to be building our Aircraft carries to suit their planes.
What bit of 'evidence' that they received last week was so crucial? If he had been in the compound for months they would have him under close surveillance.
The timing is very co-incidental. It's not really a conspiracy theory just one of how do the people in power actually interact and what are the relationships between the people at the very top of our society.
> (In reply to TimR) Please tell me you are joking.
No. I'm serious. I don't think the US just go ahead and do whatever they want. Whatever the press want us to believe. They need our support for many things, not least all their air bases and we seem to be building our Aircraft carries to suit their planes.
What bit of 'evidence' that they received last week was so crucial? If he had been in the compound for months they would have him under close surveillance.
The timing is very co-incidental. It's not really a conspiracy theory just one of how do the people in power actually interact and what are the relationships between the people at the very top of our society.
In reply to paul-1970:
Bin Laden, Obama and everyone else are reptilian aliens behind the new world order, Bin Laden isn't really dead but has been pulled from Al Qaeda and relocated to their secret underground reptile city. Most of the rest of Al Qaeda aren't in the new world order thing, but they have a few well placed operatives that are and it'll be one of them that takes control again.
As for the timing, er, perhaps Bin Laden has outlived his usefulness and it also reminds everyone about that lot again, Obama's popularity needs a boost, um, I'm sure you can think of some more reasons. Perhaps they shall orchestrate some new terror plot and the "death" of Bin Laden will be the excuse.
Also, I'm sure Lady Gaga is involved somehow. I bet if we try really hard we can interpret something about this from her videos.
I bet there's some entertainment to be got over at vigilant citizen.
Bin Laden, Obama and everyone else are reptilian aliens behind the new world order, Bin Laden isn't really dead but has been pulled from Al Qaeda and relocated to their secret underground reptile city. Most of the rest of Al Qaeda aren't in the new world order thing, but they have a few well placed operatives that are and it'll be one of them that takes control again.
As for the timing, er, perhaps Bin Laden has outlived his usefulness and it also reminds everyone about that lot again, Obama's popularity needs a boost, um, I'm sure you can think of some more reasons. Perhaps they shall orchestrate some new terror plot and the "death" of Bin Laden will be the excuse.
Also, I'm sure Lady Gaga is involved somehow. I bet if we try really hard we can interpret something about this from her videos.
I bet there's some entertainment to be got over at vigilant citizen.
In reply to Jaffacake:
complete rubbish. It has been shown that they are giant squirrels from Jupiter. The symbolism of the marriage, death and beatification is the holy trifurcate of their order. Expect the giant nutshells to start rising from the sea shortly.
> Bin Laden, Obama and everyone else are reptilian aliens behind the new world order,
complete rubbish. It has been shown that they are giant squirrels from Jupiter. The symbolism of the marriage, death and beatification is the holy trifurcate of their order. Expect the giant nutshells to start rising from the sea shortly.
In reply to TimR: Crikey. I think I believe Hannah's explanation more than yours.
I don't believe that Cameron (or anyone in the UK) had any idea at all of what was about to happen; and I suspect the Obama was so zeroed in that he probably was barely aware that there was some fuss in London on the 29th. Of all the different factors they would take into account planning such a critical mission any impact on us would be so far down the pecking order it wouldn't have registered. ('OK guys, you're going to risk your lives picking up the most wanted terrorist the world has ever seen, oops no we can't go on Thursday night - some guy called Windsor is getting married in a place called London.')
The US like our cooperation but never need it, the special relationship is strictly one way. And I've said before - I don't think Obama likes us very much tbh, and has very little in common with Cameron.
I don't believe that Cameron (or anyone in the UK) had any idea at all of what was about to happen; and I suspect the Obama was so zeroed in that he probably was barely aware that there was some fuss in London on the 29th. Of all the different factors they would take into account planning such a critical mission any impact on us would be so far down the pecking order it wouldn't have registered. ('OK guys, you're going to risk your lives picking up the most wanted terrorist the world has ever seen, oops no we can't go on Thursday night - some guy called Windsor is getting married in a place called London.')
The US like our cooperation but never need it, the special relationship is strictly one way. And I've said before - I don't think Obama likes us very much tbh, and has very little in common with Cameron.
In reply to Postmanpat:
What rubbish!
He sold sold me a kebab in Tollcross last night.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> [...]
> I saw him driving a taxi in West London last night. Seemed a bit conspicuous to me.
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> I saw him driving a taxi in West London last night. Seemed a bit conspicuous to me.
What rubbish!
He sold sold me a kebab in Tollcross last night.
In reply to dissonance:
Shown, shown by whom? It's a well documented fact they are shape shifting reptile people. Just look at any number of garishly designed websites around the web explaining the undeniable evidence.
Also, the reason it was after the royal wedding is that the royal family are reptilians too so all their reptiley friends were busy in various disguises at the wedding.
Shown, shown by whom? It's a well documented fact they are shape shifting reptile people. Just look at any number of garishly designed websites around the web explaining the undeniable evidence.
Also, the reason it was after the royal wedding is that the royal family are reptilians too so all their reptiley friends were busy in various disguises at the wedding.
In reply to Jaffacake:
you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book they are faked by the squirrels using the CIA as cover. Here is how to check, search for the string "CIA operation hide the drey" one letter at a time and you will find it will appear on all those sites.
close. the actual reason was william was flying one of the helicopters and couldnt make time prior to the wedding. i mean isnt the mysterious quiet weekend a bit convenient timing?
> Shown, shown by whom? It's a well documented fact they are shape shifting reptile people. Just look at any number of garishly designed websites around the web explaining the undeniable evidence.
you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book they are faked by the squirrels using the CIA as cover. Here is how to check, search for the string "CIA operation hide the drey" one letter at a time and you will find it will appear on all those sites.
> Also, the reason it was after the royal wedding is that the royal family are reptilians too so all their reptiley friends were busy in various disguises at the wedding.
close. the actual reason was william was flying one of the helicopters and couldnt make time prior to the wedding. i mean isnt the mysterious quiet weekend a bit convenient timing?
In reply to paul-1970:
Moon Landings - FAKED
Elvis - STILL ALIVE
Obama's Birth Certificate - FAKED
Kennedy - MURDERED BY THE CIA
UFO evidence - COVERED UP
...now this.
Somebody's hiding my medication too....
Moon Landings - FAKED
Elvis - STILL ALIVE
Obama's Birth Certificate - FAKED
Kennedy - MURDERED BY THE CIA
UFO evidence - COVERED UP
...now this.
Somebody's hiding my medication too....
In reply to AlunP:
-- all of the above sound like a joke except Kennedy. theres a mountain
of evidence that shows it in fact was a conspiracy. does someone have to be a conspiracy theory nut to believe some conspiracies actually do take place ?
> (In reply to paul-1970)
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> Moon Landings - FAKED
> Elvis - STILL ALIVE
> Obama's Birth Certificate - FAKED
> Kennedy - MURDERED BY THE CIA
> UFO evidence - COVERED UP
>
> ...now this.
>
> Somebody's hiding my medication too....
>
> Moon Landings - FAKED
> Elvis - STILL ALIVE
> Obama's Birth Certificate - FAKED
> Kennedy - MURDERED BY THE CIA
> UFO evidence - COVERED UP
>
> ...now this.
>
> Somebody's hiding my medication too....
-- all of the above sound like a joke except Kennedy. theres a mountain
of evidence that shows it in fact was a conspiracy. does someone have to be a conspiracy theory nut to believe some conspiracies actually do take place ?
In reply to Dirk Didler:
indeed its a fake from several years back.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake
> My photo shop can do a better fake than that.
indeed its a fake from several years back.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake
In reply to paul-1970: Some people think he's been dead a long-long time, why they chose now to release the info i don't know... youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiuFx6rQbE&
In reply to dissonance:
Hmm, I should carry out further investigations but I have to admit I'm a lot fonder of squirrels than reptilians and you make a good argument.
Also yes, that sounds spot on for the quiet weekend after the wedding.
Although we did meet Prince William in Newquay on Saturday night.
Hmm, I should carry out further investigations but I have to admit I'm a lot fonder of squirrels than reptilians and you make a good argument.
Also yes, that sounds spot on for the quiet weekend after the wedding.
Although we did meet Prince William in Newquay on Saturday night.
In reply to paul-1970:
I'm rather disappointed that amidst all the reptillian lizards, is he/is he not dead, where's the body, and when did he die strands - no one has mentioned a role for Prince Philip yet.
Then again, I don't think Mohammed Al Fayed does much climbing, to be honest...
I'm rather disappointed that amidst all the reptillian lizards, is he/is he not dead, where's the body, and when did he die strands - no one has mentioned a role for Prince Philip yet.
Then again, I don't think Mohammed Al Fayed does much climbing, to be honest...
In reply to paul-1970:
No internet, no phone line?! I'd be surprised if it wasn't just suicide dressed up a bit.
No internet, no phone line?! I'd be surprised if it wasn't just suicide dressed up a bit.
In reply to Rob Exile Ward:
Obama gave the go ahead on Friday at 8.30am Washington time. 1.30pm UK time.
This chap called Windsor had 23million Americans watching his wedding. My Friend in Thailand said it was on every TV chanel out there and not just the BBC World service. The NY times estimated that 3billion people worldwide would watch it (OK. That's probably stretching it a bit.)
It has nothing to do with how much he likes Cameron. I doubt that Obama would have had much input into the operation he would have been told this is what we're doing and when we are planning to do it, sign here.
Just because a lot of us Brits don't take much notice, don't assume the rest of the world don't.
> (In reply to TimR) Crikey. I think I believe Hannah's explanation more than yours.
>
> I don't believe that Cameron (or anyone in the UK) had any idea at all of what was about to happen; and I suspect the Obama was so zeroed in that he probably was barely aware that there was some fuss in London on the 29th. Of all the different factors they would take into account planning such a critical mission any impact on us would be so far down the pecking order it wouldn't have registered. ('OK guys, you're going to risk your lives picking up the most wanted terrorist the world has ever seen, oops no we can't go on Thursday night - some guy called Windsor is getting married in a place called London.')
>
> The US like our cooperation but never need it, the special relationship is strictly one way. And I've said before - I don't think Obama likes us very much tbh, and has very little in common with Cameron.
>
> I don't believe that Cameron (or anyone in the UK) had any idea at all of what was about to happen; and I suspect the Obama was so zeroed in that he probably was barely aware that there was some fuss in London on the 29th. Of all the different factors they would take into account planning such a critical mission any impact on us would be so far down the pecking order it wouldn't have registered. ('OK guys, you're going to risk your lives picking up the most wanted terrorist the world has ever seen, oops no we can't go on Thursday night - some guy called Windsor is getting married in a place called London.')
>
> The US like our cooperation but never need it, the special relationship is strictly one way. And I've said before - I don't think Obama likes us very much tbh, and has very little in common with Cameron.
Obama gave the go ahead on Friday at 8.30am Washington time. 1.30pm UK time.
This chap called Windsor had 23million Americans watching his wedding. My Friend in Thailand said it was on every TV chanel out there and not just the BBC World service. The NY times estimated that 3billion people worldwide would watch it (OK. That's probably stretching it a bit.)
It has nothing to do with how much he likes Cameron. I doubt that Obama would have had much input into the operation he would have been told this is what we're doing and when we are planning to do it, sign here.
Just because a lot of us Brits don't take much notice, don't assume the rest of the world don't.
In reply to Steeve:
"...if they were doing the operation right"
Are you suddenly some kind of Special Forces direct action expert?
"...if they were doing the operation right"
Are you suddenly some kind of Special Forces direct action expert?
In reply to paul-1970:
nah philip specialises in vehicle accidents only. If the helicopter which crashed had destroyed vital evidence then he may well have been in charge.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> I'm rather disappointed that amidst all the reptillian lizards, is he/is he not dead, where's the body, and when did he die strands - no one has mentioned a role for Prince Philip yet.
> I'm rather disappointed that amidst all the reptillian lizards, is he/is he not dead, where's the body, and when did he die strands - no one has mentioned a role for Prince Philip yet.
nah philip specialises in vehicle accidents only. If the helicopter which crashed had destroyed vital evidence then he may well have been in charge.
In reply to Steeve:
"Im pretty certain the thing about him using his wife as a shield, and refusing to surernder peacefully is completely fabricated ny the americanS"
Are you? Inside knowledge on the operation? Jesus, people on here spout some uninformed shit as fact.
YOU ARE MAKING STUFF UP! Is that clear to you?
"Im pretty certain the thing about him using his wife as a shield, and refusing to surernder peacefully is completely fabricated ny the americanS"
Are you? Inside knowledge on the operation? Jesus, people on here spout some uninformed shit as fact.
YOU ARE MAKING STUFF UP! Is that clear to you?
In reply to TimR:
> (In reply to Rob Exile Ward)
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> [...]
> It has nothing to do with how much he likes Cameron. I doubt that Obama would have had much input into the operation he would have been told this is what we're doing and when we are planning to do it, sign here.
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Keep it coming. UKC never ceases to amaze but you and Steeve are setting new standards..... >
In reply to paul-1970:
I heard that they finally found him because he got a Sky subscription so that he could watch the royal wedding.
I heard that they finally found him because he got a Sky subscription so that he could watch the royal wedding.
In reply to paul-1970:
Apparantly they had to cover up an earlier unsuccssful raid
A dyslexic SAS squad hit a Sofa and Bed Linen sale by mistake
Apparantly they had to cover up an earlier unsuccssful raid
A dyslexic SAS squad hit a Sofa and Bed Linen sale by mistake
In reply to Hooo:
nah it was down to the playstation network user name and addresses leak.
Which is also why it happened so quick, the seals were bored without their multiplayer.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> I heard that they finally found him because he got a Sky subscription so that he could watch the royal wedding.
> I heard that they finally found him because he got a Sky subscription so that he could watch the royal wedding.
nah it was down to the playstation network user name and addresses leak.
Which is also why it happened so quick, the seals were bored without their multiplayer.
In reply to Hannah S:
Odd? Nah, it's amazing what some Americans can do when Playstation Network is down.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me
> I may just be being very cynical here but the timing is odd to me
Odd? Nah, it's amazing what some Americans can do when Playstation Network is down.
In reply to paul-1970: I think he was taken alive and he is currently being tortured by american intelligence services.
In reply to paul-1970:
I was laughing at work today at a lady who, adding to the debate with lowered voice and narrowed eyes, said that she believed that he had been buried at sea so that... OBL wouldn't have a grave or a shrine and his body would never be found...
Well yes, we replied. That's the official line!
Then I got to thinking... What if the official line is actually the conspiracy? Total conjecture, but what if the authorities had nabbed him, took him away and now he's in Guantanamo ready for a torture session that would put the practioners of the Inquisition in the shade? In that unlikely, but still faintly plausible and very grim case, the most likely news story and the official line would be: OBL killed resisting arrest and body buried at sea...
I was laughing at work today at a lady who, adding to the debate with lowered voice and narrowed eyes, said that she believed that he had been buried at sea so that... OBL wouldn't have a grave or a shrine and his body would never be found...
Well yes, we replied. That's the official line!
Then I got to thinking... What if the official line is actually the conspiracy? Total conjecture, but what if the authorities had nabbed him, took him away and now he's in Guantanamo ready for a torture session that would put the practioners of the Inquisition in the shade? In that unlikely, but still faintly plausible and very grim case, the most likely news story and the official line would be: OBL killed resisting arrest and body buried at sea...
In reply to higherclimbingwales:
Wow! That is weird that we were both writing with the same thought at the same time...!
Perhaps... maybe we're part of the conspiracy too?
Wow! That is weird that we were both writing with the same thought at the same time...!
Perhaps... maybe we're part of the conspiracy too?
In reply to paul-1970:
its even more cunning than that. Working on homeopathic principles of like cures like by putting his body in the sea it will turn into a giant cure for terrorism.
> (In reply to paul-1970)
> I was laughing at work today at a lady who, adding to the debate with lowered voice and narrowed eyes, said that she believed that he had been buried at sea so that... OBL wouldn't have a grave or a shrine and his body would never be found...
> I was laughing at work today at a lady who, adding to the debate with lowered voice and narrowed eyes, said that she believed that he had been buried at sea so that... OBL wouldn't have a grave or a shrine and his body would never be found...
its even more cunning than that. Working on homeopathic principles of like cures like by putting his body in the sea it will turn into a giant cure for terrorism.
In reply to paul-1970:
I've heard that there aren't any conspiracy theories about it...
Which must mean that all previous conspiracies were the work of the US government
I've heard that there aren't any conspiracy theories about it...
Which must mean that all previous conspiracies were the work of the US government
In reply to paul-1970:
It's better by far to say that he's been killed, and then buried at sea within 24hrs of being killed, rather than say "we've caught him, and he's in custody", because the latter would lead to all sorts of kidnappings, and hostage taking and threats of terrorism in order to get him released.
So, he may not be dead, but may be in custody, under interrogation somewhere.
That's a pretty nifty conspiracy theory, which I've just made up, but I suspect very strongly that he is, in fact, dead, and was buried at sea.
But if he wasn't, and was really in custody, I wouldn't tell anyone that. Would you?
> According to many people, the speed with which OBL's body was 'dealt with' and its burial (if indeed it was buried...)
It's better by far to say that he's been killed, and then buried at sea within 24hrs of being killed, rather than say "we've caught him, and he's in custody", because the latter would lead to all sorts of kidnappings, and hostage taking and threats of terrorism in order to get him released.
So, he may not be dead, but may be in custody, under interrogation somewhere.
That's a pretty nifty conspiracy theory, which I've just made up, but I suspect very strongly that he is, in fact, dead, and was buried at sea.
But if he wasn't, and was really in custody, I wouldn't tell anyone that. Would you?
In reply to dissonance:
lame
read http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=167762 b4 you mock..
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lame
read http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=167762 b4 you mock..
In reply to paul-1970:
Luckily, I've not fallen for any of The Man's lies because my tinfoil hat is protecting my brainwaves.
Luckily, I've not fallen for any of The Man's lies because my tinfoil hat is protecting my brainwaves.
In reply to Postmanpat:
Are you suggesting that the political leader of the largest country in the world organises and plans his army's raids? I think they are a bit more worried about their economy than a defunct terrorist leader. It's now emerging that he would have been there for 6 years. Waiting another 48 hours isn't going to make a lot of difference.
You only have to look at who was packed into Westminster Abbey to realise what a mess a suicide bomber would have made given the opportunity. Al Qaeda aren't exactly known for their sniper style assassinations of future Kings are they?
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Are you suggesting that the political leader of the largest country in the world organises and plans his army's raids? I think they are a bit more worried about their economy than a defunct terrorist leader. It's now emerging that he would have been there for 6 years. Waiting another 48 hours isn't going to make a lot of difference.
You only have to look at who was packed into Westminster Abbey to realise what a mess a suicide bomber would have made given the opportunity. Al Qaeda aren't exactly known for their sniper style assassinations of future Kings are they?
In reply to MonkeyPuzzle:
Lockheed-Martin make tinfoil. You've been duped, and are being brainwashed by your hat!
> Luckily, I've not fallen for any of The Man's lies because my tinfoil hat is protecting my brainwaves.
Lockheed-Martin make tinfoil. You've been duped, and are being brainwashed by your hat!
In reply to TimR:
No, he makes the final sign off.
That you thought I was suggesting he planned the details may explain your confusion over a link with the royal wedding. But carry on.It's entertaining stuff!
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No, he makes the final sign off.
That you thought I was suggesting he planned the details may explain your confusion over a link with the royal wedding. But carry on.It's entertaining stuff!
In reply to subalpine:
good point, why spend time inventing my own insane theories when i can just grab them from there. Depressing thing is i am making stuff up for fun whereas those lot seem to be serious.
> read http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=167762 b4 you mock..
good point, why spend time inventing my own insane theories when i can just grab them from there. Depressing thing is i am making stuff up for fun whereas those lot seem to be serious.
In reply to paul-1970: youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w&
In reply to Postmanpat:
I'm not fully with you there but I'm hoping that the heads of the anti terrorist organizations of all the countries in the UN have some sort of idea of what impact their operations will have on each other even if they don't know the details of the operations.
It would also be kind of interesting if we sent in the SAS at the same time as the US were sending in the Seals.
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I'm not fully with you there but I'm hoping that the heads of the anti terrorist organizations of all the countries in the UN have some sort of idea of what impact their operations will have on each other even if they don't know the details of the operations.
It would also be kind of interesting if we sent in the SAS at the same time as the US were sending in the Seals.
In reply to TimR:
It truly would be. And the connection with the royal wedding is......?
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It truly would be. And the connection with the royal wedding is......?
In reply to Postmanpat:
That the heads of the anti terrorist organisations talk to each other.
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That the heads of the anti terrorist organisations talk to each other.
In reply to TimR:
To discuss their dress for the wedding no doubt. Got to get the details right after all....
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To discuss their dress for the wedding no doubt. Got to get the details right after all....
In reply to Postmanpat:
It explains the coded message sent by David Beckham wearing his medal on the "wrong" side of his jacket.
What that really meant was "All OK for Pakistan, then?"
and changing it to the left a bit later meant that it was "OK, we've got the go ahead, proceed as planned."
> To discuss their dress for the wedding no doubt. Got to get the details right after all....
It explains the coded message sent by David Beckham wearing his medal on the "wrong" side of his jacket.
What that really meant was "All OK for Pakistan, then?"
and changing it to the left a bit later meant that it was "OK, we've got the go ahead, proceed as planned."
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In reply to JayPee630:
doesnt starting with "im pretty certain" makes it clear that im not stating it as fact...
thats just what I reckon.
and no I'm not a special forces expert, but I have watched ALOT of police camera action (man I love that show...) and every time they raid a house, they do it while the persons definitely going to be asleep.
yeah, ofcourse im making stuff up, I'm speculating. isnt everyone here?
doesnt starting with "im pretty certain" makes it clear that im not stating it as fact...
thats just what I reckon.
and no I'm not a special forces expert, but I have watched ALOT of police camera action (man I love that show...) and every time they raid a house, they do it while the persons definitely going to be asleep.
yeah, ofcourse im making stuff up, I'm speculating. isnt everyone here?
In reply to Steeve:
and before anyone says it, killing bin laden is DEFINITELY comparable to raiding small time drug dealers in bristol.
and before anyone says it, killing bin laden is DEFINITELY comparable to raiding small time drug dealers in bristol.
In reply to paul-1970:
I hope the CIA are pumping out a few conspiracies to mess with Al Qaeda such as..
the operation sucessfully saved a CIA informant, possibly OBL
OBL has started cooperating with the CIA
OBL was betrayed by a traitor within Al Qaeda
one of the Seals wore a tiara and one of the helicopter pilots looked regal
...the variations are endless.
I hope the CIA are pumping out a few conspiracies to mess with Al Qaeda such as..
the operation sucessfully saved a CIA informant, possibly OBL
OBL has started cooperating with the CIA
OBL was betrayed by a traitor within Al Qaeda
one of the Seals wore a tiara and one of the helicopter pilots looked regal
...the variations are endless.
I would argue that a LOT of stupid conspiracy theories and disinformation are deliberately put out in the alternative media by agents of the intelligence services in order to make all conspiracy theories look daft and divert peoples attention away from doing their own research.
Listen to this speech of JFK warning the people of the dangers of secret societies. No other president since has ever had the guts to speak of this and remember JFK was assassinated:
youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA&
Now, compare what Kennedy said with the following interview with George Bush about his membership of the secret society at Yale called Skull and Bones:
youtube.com/watch?v=mPh7sUvhZ3E&
Listen to this speech of JFK warning the people of the dangers of secret societies. No other president since has ever had the guts to speak of this and remember JFK was assassinated:
youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA&
Now, compare what Kennedy said with the following interview with George Bush about his membership of the secret society at Yale called Skull and Bones:
youtube.com/watch?v=mPh7sUvhZ3E&
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