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Decided I've not seen enough westerns, actually I've seen hardly any. Any recommendations?

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Something directed by John Ford

The Searchers - A brilliant film, one of my all time favourites

The cavalry trilogy; Fort Apache, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon & Rio Grande

Also the Anthony Mann films with James Stewart, The Man From Laramie, Naked Spur & Winchester 73

In reply to DreadyCraig: I recently enjoyed the remake of 3:10 to Yuma.

In reply to DreadyCraig:
What about any of the Clint Eastwood films, they worth getting?

In reply to DreadyCraig:

The Man who Shot Liberty Valance
High Noon
The Seven Samurai

In reply to DreadyCraig:

I like the Clint Eastwood ones.

Also watch The Wild Bunch, Once Upon A Time In The West and for some light relief/comedy Blazing Saddles.

In reply to Fredt:

The Proposition is an excellent modern 'western'. Got this in place of The Proposal. Heh heh. That was an interestingly fraught night in the anonymousehole.

The Good, The Bad and The Weird is entertainingly different.

In reply to DreadyCraig: In my opinion, the best westerns were made before 1960.

Classics you should watch include ...

Shane
High Noon
Yellow Sky
The Proud Ones
Where the River Bends
Day of the Evil Gun
The Man from Laramie
The Gunfighter
Man without a Star
Stagecoach (the original)
Rio Bravo

more recently, I'd recommend Will Penny, Dances with Wolves, Unforgiven, Open Range, 3:10 to Yuma, Seraphim Falls.

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Some fine recommendations in this thread but I think some of them are for the more seasoned veteran of the genre.

For old-fashioned "standard formula" fare, try High Noon, The Last Wagon, Ride the High Country, Gunfight at the OK Corral and - slightly unusual at a first glance, and not a famous or "obvious" choice, but go with it.... "Warlock" starring Henry Fonda and Anthony Quinn and Richard Widmark. Oh also Man of the West (Gary Cooper)

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Unforgiven - brilliant
True grit - both versions
Silverado - great if a little light hearted
All of the TGTBATU, FFOD, FAFDM trilogy - early Clint - ignore the dubbing
Open range - excellet Kevin Costner
Dances with Wolves - Excellent Kevin Costner
Both Tombstone and Gunfight at the OK corral - great vriations on the same story
The whole Lonesome Dove tv series


The Searchers - I'm waiting for the re-make
The outlaw Jose Wales
High Plains Drifter
Geronimo - excellent

In reply to Removed User:

Outstanding!


You will burn in Hell for even thinking about it..

In reply to DreadyCraig:

anything by sam peckinpah.

In reply to Blue Straggler: Rootin-tootin suggestions, pardner

In reply to Marc C:

Audi, Marc!
Warlock is nuts isn't it!

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Little Big Man

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065988/

in a similar vein to Dances with Wolves but light hearted and a bit less "worthy" (and better)

In reply to Blue Straggler: Yup, sure is! Anthony 'Zorba the Greek' Quinn as a repressed homosexual (?!)

In reply to Marc C:
I think Prince based his wardrobe on a combination of Quinn in this, and Dr T from The 5000 Fingers of Dr T (not a Western)

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Most of the above plus John Waynes last film The Shootist

In reply to DreadyCraig: Randolph Scott made some under-rated Westerns - Ride the High Country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_High_Country being a good example. The fifties/early sixties were for me the classic era. After that it all got a bit too much (Once Upon a Time in the West is very stylised and depressingly awful to my mind). There have been exceptions though - Clint's westerns are mostly very good, particularly post-Leone.
Shane, to me, is the archetypal Western tale of good triumphing over evil although it's not a simplistic black and white story. The scenery's good too - filmed below the Tetons in Wyoming!

In reply to Karl Lunt: Agree that the 50s = the classic Western decade. Agree also that Ride the High Country is an underrated Western. Personally I'm a sucker for B-movie westerns filmed with rock scenery as a major part of the landscape/story - as a climber I also try to visualise their climbing potential!

In reply to DreadyCraig: What about the one with Willie Nelson, Barbarossa was it? And could Connery's sci fi thing Zardoz be considered a kind of Western?

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Newer ones..:

Pale Rider
Unforgiven
Silverado
Dances with Wolves
3:10 to Yuma

In reply to Marc C:

Is it? I thought it was a widely acknowledged classic!

An awful lot of people don't seem to know that 3:10 To Yuma was a 1950s Western which was recently REMADE.

In reply to Removed User: Second your recomendation for Tombstone: much under-rated I feel.

"I'm your huckleberry"

In reply to Removed User:

That'll be the day!

In reply to Marc C:
B-movie westerns filmed with rock scenery as a major part of the landscape/story - as a climber I also try to visualise their climbing potential!

My thoughts also. The first time I went hiking in the States I headed to places like Arches, Canyonlands etc just for the buzz of being in a Western-type landscape. It's part of the fun of the whole B-movie experience (apart from some of the awful plots, dialogue etc). What's that one with Burt Lancaster, Lee Marvin and dynamite where they bring down half a canyon-load of rocks onto the banditos?

In reply to Blue Straggler: apparently it wasn't when released but became so over time. Scott could be a bit two-dimensional at times but in this one he shows quite a complex character.

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Can I smugly point to my post about it above?

In reply to Karl Lunt:

The Professionals. One of the best "top-end B-movies" ever made in any genre. Story, dialogue, scenery, acting, casting, direction, score, cinematography, all spot on. Love it. The dynamite a small part of it.

In reply to Blue Straggler:
>The dynamite a small part of it.

You can never have too much dynamite? Watched the remake of The Thing last night - it seems it's the best guard against latex alien invasions too.

In reply to Blue Straggler:

An awful lot of people DO know that.

In reply to DreadyCraig:
All the usual favourites have been mentioned..but Steve McQeen in Tom Horn is another classic, based on a true story.

youtube.com/watch?v=uurQCHVh5R8&

In reply to DreadyCraig:
I'm surprised Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid hasn't been mentioned yet. Great film.

I'm a big fan of Eastwood's spaghetti westerns, especially the soundtracks!

Also, the recent version of True Grit was excellent I thought.

In reply to Blue Straggler:

Sorry, I meant 'relatively unknown'. Don't reply saying that's untrue too
(I doubt many non-Western aficionados have heard of it or seen it)

The Proud Ones (with Robert Ryan playing a good guy for once*) is also relatively unknown/underrated/unacknowledged (delete whichever is inapplicable).

* Feel free to correct me if you have calculated that Robert Ryan played the good guy more often than the bad guy

In reply to estivator: Think he meant 'a lot of awful people haven't heard that the Russell Crowe version of 3:10 to Yuma was a re-make'

In reply to DreadyCraig:

Rich Hall's How the West Was Lost was on again this week, well worth a look.

youtube.com/watch?v=ivcl85Sw6dA&

In reply to Hat Dude:

The most similar to "dances with wolves" was "a man called horse" with Richard Harris.

In reply to stonemaster:
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Yep, but I'm taking bets it'll come!


Actually, I'm really waiting for "Blood meridian"

In reply to DreadyCraig:

I've never been a massive fan, but my dad used to really love Westerns. So I grew up seeing loads anyway. Family favs (aka the ones he managed to get us to watch) were the Terence hill & Bud Spencer ones especially "They call me Trinity" and "Trinity is still my name". Then when you've watch many of them watch "Wagons East" I used to find that rather funny.

On the other hand if you like reading go search for some Louis L'Amour books. My dad was a very avid collector of these & devoured them whenever we were on holidays.

In reply to Removed User:


And you'd probably win as well....

Will check out Blood Meridian, ta.

In reply to DreadyCraig:
I'm almost ashamed to admit I saw the remake of true Grit tonight and thought it better than the original (which I thought was great by the way).

In reply to DreadyCraig:

NOt read thread, but I'd like to recommend "Nevada Smith" Steve McQueen. Caught it again tother nite & it gets better with age!

In reply to graeme jackson:
No shame there. I just finished reading the book and the Coen brothers' film is a very close adaptation.
I also read "Hombre" last week which is another excellent film and very close to the story.

In reply to DreadyCraig: there are several Westerns showing soon on Channel 5. They definitely won't be classics but it's sometimes possible to come up with a watchable nugget.
Saturday 4.45pm The Sheepman (Glenn Ford)
Sunday 2pm The Bounty Hunter (Randolph Scott)
Sunday 3.35pm Riders of Vengeance (someone I haven't come across before!). I'm setting the box to record. If you like cowboy/dinosaur combos then the film you absolutely must see is 'The Valley of The Gwangi' - THE classic of the genre.

In reply to Karl Lunt:

I'd buy that for a dollar! (I felt sorry for Gwangi in this film)

In reply to stonemaster:

It might be a bit of a wait

http://www.podcastfilmreview.com/2011/01/12/james-franco-locked-to-direct-b...

In reply to Removed User:

Not much hope here either:

http://moviewaffle.com/2010/03/13/blood-meridian-a-review/

In reply to DreadyCraig: If it's not been mentioned already

Magnificent Seven

In reply to DreadyCraig: Rooster cogburn and the lady...

The cowboys
Cahill
Chism