In reply to Al Evans:
> (In reply to Fraser) Did you know for instance that the first ascent of Aurora at Stoney Middleton was done by Frank Elliot in 1933, a stunning performance.
I didn't know that and frankly, don't feel a lesser person for it. I've never climbed there, quite probably never will and only know of Stoney from having read Jerry Moffat's book. I'd maybe get some incentive from hearing about a route's reputation, but not its FA details.
Similarly for 'Right Unconquerable'. Without searching UKC, I couldn't tell you where it is. I've heard the name, but other than a that, I know nothing of it. And yes, I do have a sense of history, but in the grand scheme of things, it's still only ever a climb. If you or whoever chooses to attach more to it than that, that's fine, I won't say you're wrong. But for me, there's no connection I'm afraid. I'm happy if you wish to consider me a bad person for my opinion as again, it doesn't bother me either way.
There's much more rock in this country than the stuff in middle England, tramped up by the masses.
(I'm assuming the route's in mddle England - apologies if it's not!)