UKC

Anyone else share my grumpy dislike and disinterest in articles trying to get me excited over the latest hotshot being given a bit of free kit?

In reply to 3leggeddog:

UKC? I can't see anything matching that on the News page?

In reply to 3leggeddog:

I am yours to hate. I won a Tendon rope last week.

In reply to full stottie:

Congratulations

It's all a bit valley girl to me.

I was like so grossed out in 83 when Charlton Chest wig moved from clog to troll, I mean, those omnis, barf city.

In reply to 3leggeddog:


I'm not keen on people using the word "disinterest" without knowing what it means. But I'm with you nonetheless

In reply to BnB:

I doff my cap to you sir, 20 hands to my 18.
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In reply to BnB:


I'm not so keen on people who think they know what it means, and nobody else knows what it means, when in fact it means not only what they think it means but also what they think it doesn't mean.

"The difference between disinterested and uninterested is often controversial. According to traditional guidelines, disinterested should never be used to mean ‘not interested’ (i.e. it is not a synonym for uninterested) but only to mean ‘impartial’, as in 'the judgements of disinterested outsiders are likely to be more useful'. Ironically, the earliest recorded sense of disinterested is for the disputed sense. Today, the ‘incorrect’ use of disinterested is widespread: around a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus for disinterested are for this sense."

In reply to meffl:

Even while I bow to the OED's resigned complicity in the erosion of one of our language's most English of terms, I entreat you to stand up to this creeping acceptance of the "wrong" use of "disinterested". Can you really stand aside without favour or bias?

In reply to meffl:
It is a technical word meaning not just impartial but going further - not having a reason to be partial (ie a financial or business or other interest from which you (or someone close to you) may gain or lose as a result of the matter at hand being determined one way or another).

This is not a case where incorrect usage can just be put down to "the language evolving" as it has legal and moral implications that require it to be understood in public life. Otherwise we end up with situations like our local council chairman alleging he had no reason to see anything wrong with running the recycling business that won a council contract.

In reply to 3leggeddog:
Back in the day I remember Al Rouse calling a new route Andy Pollits jacket, as AP was so chuffed to get a free jacket for some promo pics

In reply to wercat:

I see your point. However, we get along fine with many other words where we understand that they have a narrow technical sense in a particular context while thay can mean something different in everyday usage. It's fairly obvious that the OP wasn't discussing political corruption. And what amuses me particularly is that the 'wrong' usage here, is actually the original meaning of the word.

In reply to 3leggeddog:
Personally, I find the leigon of UKC pendants far more dis/uninteresting (delete as you feel appropriate).

In reply to Mike Hewitt:


legion - don't say I don't do my bit.

In reply to Scotch Bingington:

Bloody pendants, hanging around and getting in the way. Bah.

b

In reply to 3leggeddog and mr pendant ,

Hands ? Hands ! He should see your third leg .

In reply to ben b:


Chill man - hang loose.

In reply to rocksol:


I'm sure Neil Foster was the culprit there old bean, not Al.
AP.

In reply to AP Melbourne:

No, you've been away too long Andy!

The route (and name) was Al's and I photographed him leading the first ascent, before (with youthful stupidity) soloing it myself afterwards.

But I do remember the jacket.....!

Neil

In reply to 3leggeddog:
youtube.com/watch?v=Qb21lsCQ3EM&
Pure class FZ.

In reply to Neil Foster:


Then I stand corrected (even though I'm sitting down).
That jacket's still in my garage here in Melbourne.... Tee Hee.

Cheers,
AP.

In reply to 3leggeddog:
I agree, the creeping commercialisation of climbing news (which probably started before I was born) is terrible. The hot shots should do it purely for the love of the game and send their free kit to me. Especially if it's a jacket as the zips on my softshell are going.

In reply to Mike Hewitt:
Lot's of pacific examples of pendanticalness in this one two.