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 Cobra_Head 10 Feb 2021

Bloke in Hartlepool has been issued with a closure order!!

A strongman gym owner who kept his business open during lockdown has been ordered to close with "immediate effect".

Bodybuilder Eddy Ellwood "allowed members of the public to exercise" at his gym, Xtreme Fitness, as a protest against the rules, Hartlepool Council has confirmed.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/strongman-gym-owner-slappe...

There's a massive Facebook debate, with half the people calling him a hero, for keeping the gym open, with argument, much the same as here, about mental health, not being able to exercise, people topping themselves, covid being made up, "I'm young so it won't affect me", etc., etc.,.

It's a funny old world.

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 Lankyman 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

Well, they did hang a monkey ...... allegedly.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Lankyman:

> Well, they did hang a monkey ...... allegedly.


The trouble is, it seems to have bred with a few of them before it was hung.

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 didntcomelast 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

That’s unfair......... to the monkey! 

In reply to Cobra_Head:

All the more reason not to adopt that terrible Americanism "climbing gym". 

If it is a climbing wall then it is safe because climbers are superior to gym users. 

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Blanche DuBois 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Presley Whippet:

> All the more reason not to adopt that terrible Americanism "climbing gym". 

> If it is a climbing wall then it is safe because climbers are superior to gym users. 


Don't know what walls you go to, but the ones I frequent generally have plenty of stuff that would generally be described as "gym equipment".  The term "climbing wall" is pretty undescriptive for what exists at a climbing gym.  Still, as long as having a go at the "yanks" makes you happy.

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 Meddins 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Lankyman:

He was a French spy 🤣🤣🤣

 Lankyman 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Meddins:

> He was a French spy 🤣🤣🤣

Don't mention Brexit!

In reply to Blanche DuBois:

And if they could take back "send" while they are at it, that would be great too. 

I wrote to Johnson and he agreed to include this in any transatlantic trade deal. And we all know he delivers on his promises. 

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 Lankyman 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Presley Whippet:

> And if they could take back "send" while they are at it, that would be great too. 

> I wrote to Johnson and he agreed to include this in any transatlantic trade deal. And we all know he delivers on his promises. 

I would gorge myself silly on chlorinated chicken if saying 'dude' was criminalized.

 bouldery bits 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Presley Whippet:

> And if they could take back "send" while they are at it, that would be great too. 

> I wrote to Johnson and he agreed to include this in any transatlantic trade deal. And we all know he delivers on his promises. 

Dude, are you suggesting we send back send?

I once blew the flash a on problem because, having pulled through the crux, my spotter bellowed 'You've got the postage, dude. Now send it!' I giggled my way through the air and landed in a crumpled heap on a pile of Alpkit's finest foam.

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 bouldery bits 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

When you scroll down on that article, Eddy Ellwood's let himself go. 

 The Lemming 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

Back on topic,

Yes the owner should be fined and have his gym shut down.

Otherwise what's the point of Lockdown where the majority of the nation sucks it up for the greater good?

And the mental health argunent that some meathead can't flex his biceps?

Would that meathead like to compare mental health stories with somebody who has lost a relative or staff in a hospital trying to keep Covid patients safe during stressful times?

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 wintertree 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

Hartlepool gets a semi regular slagging off on here.

The marina is quite nice, and the old town forming the headland has an almost fairy tale quality with its town houses and old city wall with a portal to the beach.  Quite the contrast to its gateway to the rest of the country, Throston.

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In reply to bouldery bits:

I have been known to use that quote. 

 Tom Valentine 11 Feb 2021
In reply to wintertree:

Still using bits of Trincomalee string to tie up my tomatoes and the visit was about 15 years ago.

I thought there was some "artificial bouldering " on the sea wall but it doesn't show on the UKC register. Have I got the wrong town?

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to wintertree:

> Hartlepool gets a semi regular slagging off on here.

ha ha have you been out there at night?

https://northeastbylines.co.uk/hartlepool-the-not-so-independent-council/?f...

My dad and I were both born there

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Tom Valentine:

> Still using bits of Trincomalee string to tie up my tomatoes and the visit was about 15 years ago.

They did a good job on a number of ships, The Warrior, was one of Nelson's old ships IIRC. It looked at one point like they may be a niche industry, using old knowledge and skills, but I think it died a death sometime ago.

> I thought there was some "artificial bouldering " on the sea wall but it doesn't show on the UKC register. Have I got the wrong town?


It's not on the sea wall, it's at Summer Hill, it was quite good, and surprisingly was still in decent knick some years after it was first put up, not been there for at least 5 years now.

 wintertree 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

> ha ha have you been out there at night?

Nearest places I've been out drinking on a night were Redcar (2001) and Stockton (2007 - I think, hard to remember...).  I imagine Hartlepool could be rougher.  We used to go there to the cinema a lot.

In reply to Tom V:

> I thought there was some "artificial bouldering " on the sea wall but it doesn't show on the UKC register. Have I got the wrong town?

I don't know about the sea wall, but there's some good boulders - including anchors for belaying children - in Summerfield park there.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Blanche DuBois:

> Don't know what walls you go to, but the ones I frequent generally have plenty of stuff that would generally be described as "gym equipment".  The term "climbing wall" is pretty undescriptive for what exists at a climbing gym.  Still, as long as having a go at the "yanks" makes you happy.


They taken all that shite out of our local wall, it wasn't being used, so we've got more climbing now, yay!!

There's a lot a MK, but who needs training, surely just keep climbing, init?

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 mondite 11 Feb 2021
In reply to The Lemming:

> Otherwise what's the point of Lockdown where the majority of the nation sucks it up for the greater good?

The counter argument would be all those highly essential businesses such as garden centres remaining open or, for the mental health angle, the less strict rules for places of worship.

The lockdown does seem somewhat half arsed this time round.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Lankyman:

> I would gorge myself silly on chlorinated chicken if saying 'dude' was criminalized.


Come on dude, what's up with dude, dude? It's hardly rude, is it dude?

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to bouldery bits:

> When you scroll down on that article, Eddy Ellwood's let himself go. 


Well he can't get down the gym, can he?

Wait, What??

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to The Lemming:

> Back on topic,

> Yes the owner should be fined and have his gym shut down.

Don't think he has been, but I hope he does. In the comments someone someone suggested £10,000 but I've not found any evidence of any fine, yet.

> Would that meathead like to compare mental health stories with somebody who has lost a relative or staff in a hospital trying to keep Covid patients safe during stressful times?

Don't even get me started, in the comments again, people giving just this excuse!

"It's too cold"

Someone suggested, "buy a coat", made me laugh.

Anyhow, it's impossible to exercise at home apparently because people like to go swimming and the gym!!

Thank fook I'm a soft shandy drinking southerner,now.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to wintertree:

> > ha ha have you been out there at night?

> Nearest places I've been out drinking on a night were Redcar (2001) and Stockton (2007 - I think, hard to remember...).  I imagine Hartlepool could be rougher.  We used to go there to the cinema a lot.

Actually, it was reasonably friendly on nights out, if you knew which places to avoid, but I've not been out there for some years.

> In reply to Tom V:

> > I thought there was some "artificial bouldering " on the sea wall but it doesn't show on the UKC register. Have I got the wrong town?

> I don't know about the sea wall, but there's some good boulders - including anchors for belaying children - in Summerfield park there.

A bloke on here, Richard Kirby, knocked some pegs in on the sea wall, when he lived there , same time I did, but I knew nothing of climbing, apart from trees until some 20+ years later.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to mondite:

> The counter argument would be all those highly essential businesses such as garden centres remaining open or, for the mental health angle, the less strict rules for places of worship.

> The lockdown does seem somewhat half arsed this time round.


I'm with you, but Garden Centres do tend to be mainly outside. I can't see gyms being very healthy places at present.

I know it's a strain mentally, must be even more so if you're on your own, a number of my mates are, but you can get better, you can't if you are dead, and I think the mental health card is played fast and loose, by people who want an excuse, quite often.

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 wintertree 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

> Actually, it was reasonably friendly on nights out, if you knew which places to avoid, but I've not been out there for some years.

That's true of just about everywhere I have yet been, the trick is the knowing part...  I'll have to have a look for rotten pegs the next time we make it to the coast, although these days we tend to go to Seaham since the gentrification of the harbour.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to wintertree:

> That's true of just about everywhere I have yet been, the trick is the knowing part...  I'll have to have a look for rotten pegs the next time we make it to the coast, although these days we tend to go to Seaham since the gentrification of the harbour.

I think they where on the Heugh (pronounced Huff) breakwater somewhere.

Seaham is nice,  Tommy is worth the visit alone. I found it weirdly moving, well weirdly for me at least.

 Lankyman 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

> Come on dude, what's up with dude, dude? It's hardly rude, is it dude?

Only if you're a nude dude

 The Lemming 11 Feb 2021
In reply to mondite:

> The counter argument would be all those highly essential businesses such as garden centres remaining open or, for the mental health angle, the less strict rules for places of worship.

Sadly this is a capitalist country and needs businesses to survive. Some will survive and some wont. A meathead flexing his/her biceps as some sort of sticking-it-to-the-man protest is not exactly helping the nation as a whole get through these unprecedented times

> The lockdown does seem somewhat half arsed this time round.

Only today I commented to my work colleague that there was just as much traffic on the roads today as there was a month before the Lockdown began. In the very first lockdown there was hardly a vehicle on the road and it was a sureal sight to behold.

Now, we have the Lockdown that people are willing to accept without going full-on civil disobedience because they can't get their hair cut or go to the gym.

 Tom Valentine 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

In our 2012 discussion of the topic Steve Crowe seemed to know about it. Is The Heugh the same place as The Headland?

 bouldery bits 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Lankyman:

> Only if you're a nude dude

Prude.

 mondite 11 Feb 2021
In reply to The Lemming:

> Sadly this is a capitalist country and needs businesses to survive.

So ermm like gyms?  As opposed to churches (which I doubt are overly profitable) and garden centres which have plenty of indoor areas.

A gym has the bonus of actually boosting peoples health as opposed to those. Been doing a lunchtime ride off and on (more off during the recent bleeping weather) which goes past two garden centres. Both have been busy every single time.

Dont get me wrong I am willing to accept that my gym and the climbing walls are going to be closed despite that being an arse for training during this weather but its pretty damn annoying that its being undermined by so many. The more people take the piss the more those who arent f*cking idiots are restricted.

Like near me there is a building site under way which given its location is for a new car showroom. Is that really essential right now?

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 FactorXXX 11 Feb 2021
In reply to mondite:

> A gym has the bonus of actually boosting peoples health as opposed to those. 

It will also have loads of unregulated people in a relatively confined space breathing out copious amounts of droplets and vapour.

> Like near me there is a building site under way which given its location is for a new car showroom. Is that really essential right now?

The building site in theory can stringently control how it's workforce operates with regards to Covid-19 and should therefore be able to carry out it's operations in a safe manner. A big factor in this is that there is no public access and the building site can essentially tell its workforce to work in a certain way to reduce/eliminate potential transmission.
Whether or not this happens is a different matter...

Continuing this theme.
I think many people will be surprised at how many industry sectors have just carried on working during the pandemic. No massive fuss: accept the reality and adjust.

OP Cobra_Head 11 Feb 2021
In reply to Tom Valentine:

> In our 2012 discussion of the topic Steve Crowe seemed to know about it. Is The Heugh the same place as The Headland?


Yes, the Headland is "Old Hartlepool" and is a town, the Heugh is one of the breakwaters on the headland.

Hartlepool is quite an historic town and has been a settlement for a long time St. Hilda was big there in her time

Later it became a bit of a boom town, because it had a dock, and the mining villages a little further up the coast didn't. So all the coal, came through Hartlepool.

Ship building, steel (two steel plants) and other heavy engineering, all sadly gone now.

 Tom Valentine 12 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

I hadn't heard about the bombardment until I paid a visit  to the museum there. ( despite having several childhood and more recent holidays in Whitby and Scarborough). Grim reading.

 The Lemming 12 Feb 2021
In reply to mondite:

>  Dont get me wrong I am willing to accept that my gym and the climbing walls are going to be closed despite that being an arse for training

I was going to put something sarcastic, however nothing I say will make up for the inconvenience of your training.

Your inconvenience to train highlights your priorities when it comes to a world wide pandemic. 

As for myself, I have not climbed for a year simply because I did not want to think that for one second I could transmit this virus to my friends and contemplate the knock on effects of transmitting the virus to their families.

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 groovejunkie 12 Feb 2021
In reply to The Lemming:

> As for myself, I have not climbed for a year simply because I did not want to think that for one second I could transmit this virus to my friends and contemplate the knock on effects of transmitting the virus to their families.

Me too, completely agree. 

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 Alkis 12 Feb 2021
In reply to bouldery bits:

> I once blew the flash a on problem because, having pulled through the crux, my spotter bellowed 'You've got the postage, dude. Now send it!' I giggled my way through the air and landed in a crumpled heap on a pile of Alpkit's finest foam.

I am semi-ashamed to say that I have done that to someone who had just climbed past the crux of their project in Font... 😬

 mondite 12 Feb 2021
In reply to The Lemming:

> Your inconvenience to train highlights your priorities when it comes to a world wide pandemic. 

Did I not make it clear that I considered that acceptable?

The bit that f*cks me off is how this time round the lockdown is so half arsed that the impact is going be prolonged and potentially risk new variants getting out which dont match the current vaccines.

Only beaten in the annoyance factor by how the government pissed away the benefits of the first lockdown with their eat out to spread it about and the rush to get everyone back to the office without bothering to come up with a proper trace strategy.

Going back to the gym owner from the few serious bodybuilder/powerlifter types I have met over the years I am surprised there arent more gyms breaching the rules. I can only assume most of them are doing so quietly since none of them came across as pictures of mental health and were so invested in the need to train.

In reply to Blanche DuBois:

Yes, what on earth is wrong with "climbing gym"! I agree: it's a better description than "climbing wall".

 Robert Durran 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Blanche DuBois:

> Don't know what walls you go to, but the ones I frequent generally have plenty of stuff that would generally be described as "gym equipment".  The term "climbing wall" is pretty undescriptive for what exists at a climbing gym.  Still, as long as having a go at the "yanks" makes you happy.

Objecting to the term "climbing gym" is not having a go at the yanks; it is simply objecting to the import of a term when we already have a perfectly good one (yes, climbing walls do have other stuff, but as long as the wall is central to them I think the term is appropriate). 

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OP Cobra_Head 13 Feb 2021
In reply to captain paranoia:

> Blimey; that's depressing...


Tell me about it, even more depressing I know a number of people who think Farage and his buddies are good fellas, and telling it like it is, etc.

 Rick Graham 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

> Yes, the Headland is "Old Hartlepool" and is a town, the Heugh is one of the breakwaters on the headland.

> Hartlepool is quite an historic town and has been a settlement for a long time St. Hilda was big there in her time

> Later it became a bit of a boom town, because it had a dock, and the mining villages a little further up the coast didn't. So all the coal, came through Hartlepool.

> Ship building, steel (two steel plants) and other heavy engineering, all sadly gone now.

Hartlepool born and bred , me, not a monkey hanger because I am from West Hartlepool not old Hartlepool . Called British West Hartlepool for some reason I have never found . So technically I am a codhead and not quite a yakker which would apply to my mums upbringing in a nearby collery village.

The old docks used to be my playground of choice pre teens. Used to avoid the red light area to get there in my teens. Used to be responsible for structural repairs and surveys on the sea walls in my early twenties.

Never noticed the crag !

OP Cobra_Head 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Rick Graham:

I always thought Codhead's where from the headland.

I'll have to look that up now

 Rick Graham 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

You might be correct .

I can't remember which side of the border the fish quay was in the docks .

Maybe it was just a standard defence against the MH monaker.

OP Cobra_Head 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Rick Graham:

ha ha  yes checked with my peeps still in the town, codheads = Old Hartlepool = Headland.

We reckon you're from Surrey looking for some street / North Eastern cred.

 Rick Graham 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Cobra_Head:

Where is Surrey?

OP Cobra_Head 13 Feb 2021
In reply to Rick Graham:

> Where is Surrey?


A mystical land far far away, where everyone eat exotic foreign food like croissant for breakfast, instead of black pudding.


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