In reply to Chris Craggs:
> We once left Sheffield early, drove over to Wales, walked up to Cloggy with food and gear for a few days, climbed Troach and Great Wall, went down to sort the gear out when the rain started, walked back to the car and drove back to Sheffield - big day out!
Sheffield to Cloggy is at least 5 hours each way, let's say 6! So you had 10-12 hours of travel PLUS Troach, and Great Wall?? That is one very very very long and great day (believe me, I am not in the tiniest bit making fun of you.... I love epic long days out, and have had a few). When did you arrive home? It must have been 3 AM (which I did once, after an epic in North Wales)