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Offering insights into the history of our sport that would otherwise be reserved for the lucky few who own physical copies of these pieces, Stone Circle provides sneak peeks into some of climbing's greatest stories - as they were originally told - as well as housing beautiful and iconic climbing photography from across the ages. 

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I don't understand... does copyright not exist anymore? How can Jim Pope claim copyright on all that material?

Hi Jon, 

I don’t think it was ever Jim’s intention to claim copyright, we just did a batch import and wrongly left it as ‘Jim Pope Collection’. The article has now been updated.

No problem. There is of course the larger issue (non UKC related) that he is reproducing the material on Instagram, which I believe is still covered by copyright regulation. I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to share the 'archive' for all, in a non-commercial way, but then we could apply that to all guidebooks, couldn't we?

Just to follow up on this, I can confirm Jim didn't claim copyright on any of these images, he included the relevant details when he sent his scans through, it was my mistake when doing a batch upload that saw the copyright attributed to him, as Rob said. Apologies, those have now all been updated. 

To make a moral point rather than a legal one: it seems ridiculous to me that copyright lasts so long. I think most people would agree with your point about guidebooks: the authors and contributors are typically still around, and still making money from them so clearly the work they've put in should be protected.

However with these mags etc. that Jim is sharing they're typically many years old at this point and the content of little commercial value. It feels to me a massive loss that this content is technically locked away until 70 years after the authors death. A handful of extremely valuable works get milked, while the other 99% of material rots into obscurity because no one is allowed to use it for anything.

Pretty sure the White Magic article is much earlier than OTE, early Crags more like. 

The article mentions Crags so you're correct. Maybe #7, can check sometime.

It does have that Geoff Birtles signature style. Looking at all the output from Crags/High/OTE/Mountain captures an era which was astonishingly good fun to be around.

I’ve updated the article accordingly. I should have got it right earlier but I was distracted by the absolute anarchy that was unfolding around me. It is Christmas Eve after all (and I have two kids that, for better or worse, take after me in the noise department) 😅

what's the route on 'on the edge No. 8', anyone know?

Don't forget Eggtimer and Preambler (Birtles wordplay)

Definitely Crags, IIRC it was very early, #3 I think - I no longer have them (sold the whole 33 + various others to Tyler of this parish)

Definitely early Crags. Maybe Pete Brashaw (the chalk-coated 'model') can supply details of the date and issue.

Pete.

Found it, Crags 2 May 1976, page 15.

Having spent a few evenings with Crags Editor Al Evans going through his collection in Spain once upon a time, I reckon that he would be quite pleased that some of these articles are getting a new audience.

He was very proud of Crags and the stories behind the articles were always good fun.

A great B&W Photographer, Al's historical shots in the magazines captured the sprit of the age and some of the adverts were, lets say very much 'of their time'.