Rockfax Description
Start along Ellis's Eliminate but make a long stretch and difficult pull on poor holds followed by a precarious high step to access the centre of the fine wall. Finish up this. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Also known as Ginny Come Lately

Pete Green and Mike Nugent 1977

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit (2006): Top 500, Stanage Routes BMC Graded List, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+, Stanage Wishlist, Eastern Grit 2 star plus (HVS/VS/HS).

GregClixby 15/Oct 2nd rpt
with Jaime
jrccrosby 30/Sep Lead rpt

Had a really hard time on it this time, felt necky as hell too

with tom
Hidden 30/Sep 2nd O/S
Hidden 24/Sep Lead
Pixie-Andy 23/Sep 2nd O/S

I think this is more like E1 5b? But i was only seconding.

with Mathew
shaunhumphreys 06/Sep Lead rpt
with Calum w
kermit_uk 20/Aug Lead O/S
mutombi 03/Aug 2nd
with kim
Neil McA 29/Jul 2nd rpt
with Jake McAdie
keitht 22/Jun Lead
with Dave Lomas
Michael Morrell 22/Jun Lead
WillCass 14/Jun Lead O/S
with Monika, Sameer
Harry Padley 14/Jun Lead O/S
RagingPuffin 13/Jun Lead O/S
with Tom
daveclarke5 11/Jun 2nd
with Stephen
TobyA 09/Jun 2nd O/S
with Tim
Hidden 03/Jun Lead RP
Hidden 13/May Lead
tebs 11/May Lead rpt
with Graeme
Will Webb 08/May Lead
with Alex
AF Webb 08/May 2nd
GregClixby 07/May Lead RP
Hidden 08/Apr Lead O/S
Phil West 02/Apr 2nd O/S
Coel Hellier 02/Apr Lead
FlavioL1989 25/Mar Lead O/S
rajeshwarbisht 25/Mar 2nd O/S
with Flavio
Rory_Cummings_NI 08/Mar 2nd
with Andy Moles, Dave
Andy Moles 08/Mar 2nd
with Dave Lyons Ewing
Hidden 08/Mar Lead O/S
Sam McCarthy 24/Feb 2nd O/S
with wizzy
Wizzy 24/Feb Lead O/S

Cold! Maybe e1

Hidden ??/2017 Lead
marcus_goff 16/Dec/16 Lead dnf
with Andy
Afell 16/Dec/16 2nd
petegruf 21/Oct/16 2nd
with nigel b
Hidden 21/Oct/16 Lead
Nigel Bond 15/Oct/16 2nd
JendeHoxar 15/Oct/16 Lead O/S
dr_botnik 10/Oct/16 2nd rpt
with Mike W
Mike W 10/Oct/16 Lead O/S
James rogers86 01/Oct/16 Lead

really fun a bit technical with long run outs

Mark Duncan 01/Oct/16 2nd β

Much better than it looked

Afell 24/Sep/16 Lead O/S
Francois R 24/Sep/16 Lead
with Pete, Seema
mike8331 23/Sep/16 Lead
with paul delaney
Jan.Hrb 18/Sep/16 Lead O/S
with Matus
matus 18/Sep/16 2nd
MSchobitz 17/Sep/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 17/Sep/16 2nd rpt
Louishmouis 11/Sep/16 -
with ben, Felix
chrisallan 11/Sep/16 2nd O/S
Hoyes 11/Sep/16 Lead O/S

Worth HVS but fairly easy for 5b.

with Chris A
chrisdjackson 24/Aug/16 2nd dog

should've moved far enough right to get the holds

with John
nick ferro 30/Jul/16 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Jul/16 2nd
charley 16/Jul/16 Lead O/S
with Ange
valentinesbabe 16/Jul/16 2nd dog

Lovely climb but the move from the break is quite tricky when you're short, had to dyno for the hold which thankfully is good but took a couple of goes before I got it....wouldn't have been good on lead!!!

Droyd 13/Jul/16 Lead O/S
Fat Andy Heff 13/Jul/16 2nd
with Droyd
isandyharper 03/Jul/16 2nd O/S

Favourite climb of the day. Traversing on hand jams was a mission... Encouragement from below got me up safe & sound.

Hidden 03/Jul/16 2nd O/S
Pixie-Andy 03/Jul/16 TR dog

First move is tough, getting off Ellis traverse, after that it felt like a bold 5b.

with Neil
MusicalMountaineer 01/Jul/16 2nd dog

Not the best. Felt hard/green/wet.

tom_lewis89 01/Jul/16 TR
Hidden 27/Jun/16 2nd
Hidden 30/May/16 -
HimTiggins 27/May/16 Lead rpt
with Chris
Mark Stevenson 24/May/16 Lead O/S
with Malcolm Max Streeton
JDC 22/May/16 2nd
phil64 17/May/16 2nd O/S

nice eliminate

with matt dean
Hidden 06/May/16 Lead G/U
Hidden 06/May/16 2nd rpt
Hidden 19/Apr/16 Lead rpt
Lukem6 31/Mar/16 2nd rpt
with Aidie
DanOsb 25/Mar/16 Lead rpt

It was good Friday, I kind of felt like I had to...

with Pad
Lukem6 20/Mar/16 Lead O/S
with ollie
Hidden 31/Oct/15 Lead O/S
bryce.dorin 10/Oct/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 10/Oct/15 2nd
ashtond6 19/Sep/15 2nd O/S
Neil R 29/Aug/15 Lead
with James M
Jamesmoly 29/Aug/15 2nd

I think the rope was doing a bit of the work at one point

Hidden 15/Aug/15 2nd β
freemanTom 12/Jul/15 2nd O/S

Desperately reachy, then pleasant

with Harry SOC
Hidden 12/Jul/15 Lead O/S
beakerburgess 11/Jul/15 Lead O/S
with greg jones
Hidden 11/Jul/15 Lead
Greg Jones 11/Jul/15 2nd dog

Tried to take the traverse high in the break and could not make the good holds. Got low in the break and made the moves up the slab easily. Must try again.

with Neil
fabricio 10/Jul/15 Lead O/S
with leon
leon 10/Jul/15 2nd rpt

My previous comment was indeed accurate ;)

Jimbo C 09/Jul/15 Lead O/S

Wow, what a move getting out from Ellis's and the quality carries on right to the top. A very good route indeed.

with Chris
Hidden 27/Jun/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 27/Jun/15 2nd O/S
Hidden 10/Jun/15 2nd
Calum Wadsworth 10/Jun/15 Lead O/S

More difficult than I had anticipated

with Jit, Hannah R
Andrew Lodge 08/Jun/15 TR

I've done easier E1's than this

with Pete
Hidden 04/Jun/15 TR
Rob Davies 23/May/15 Lead dnf

Finished on Ellis's Eliminate - cold fingers, long reaches

with Phil Ashton
Cake 10/May/15 -


with Matt
Hidden 10/May/15 Lead O/S
lee1234 10/May/15 2nd
Hidden 10/May/15 2nd rpt
lee1234 10/May/15 2nd
Andy Peak 1 01/May/15 Lead rpt
with Jone nuttal
John Nuttall 01/May/15 2nd
with Andy Peak 1
tebs 17/Apr/15 2nd rpt
with Adam
Hidden 09/Apr/15 Lead rpt
ralphio 07/Apr/15 Lead O/S

Worth three stars.

with Andy
Andypeak 07/Apr/15 2nd
Hidden 06/Apr/15 Lead
tom bre 06/Apr/15 2nd dog

Fell of crux move twice - quite tricky to read move and to do move!

scottcoates 04/Apr/15 Lead β
jrccrosby 04/Apr/15 TR O/S

Was too intimidated to lead it but got it clean first go on top rope and felt very comfortable so should come back and lead even though that is kind of cheating.

with Olly Gluck, Harry
Louishmouis ?/Mar/15 Solo O/S
Guy Atkinson 05/Nov/14 2nd O/S
with Dan Osbaldeston
DanOsb 05/Nov/14 Lead

lank helped a little bit, a little goey out of the break then its all good from there.

Duncan Campbell 12/Oct/14 Lead O/S

A bit reachy. But only one hard move 1 star route IMO

with Bubbles
sibluer 02/Oct/14 2nd
Hidden 02/Oct/14 Lead O/S
OffshoreAndy 29/Sep/14 Lead O/S
with Jade
65m moderate millington 29/Sep/14 2nd dog
Hidden 29/Sep/14 Lead RP
Hidden 28/Sep/14 2nd O/S
Hidden 28/Sep/14 Lead O/S
sampollitt 24/Sep/14 2nd O/S
Hidden 13/Sep/14 2nd rpt
Hidden 27/Aug/14 Lead
the power 27/Aug/14 Lead O/S
with derekb, ken
TimG 09/Aug/14 TR O/S

top roped after jack led the vdif to the left. gave me shivers thinking about leading it!

with Jack
bryan61 04/Aug/14 Lead O/S
with Mr Cess
Hidden 04/Aug/14 2nd O/S
Hidden 20/Jul/14 Lead O/S
mynyddresident 07/Jun/14 Lead
with KP
Kirill 31/May/14 Lead β

Very pleased with this!

with Mari Ijas
Hidden 18/May/14 -
erkershaw 14/May/14 2nd
Jonathan Richardson 14/May/14 Lead O/S
john_ni 13/May/14 2nd
Neil R 05/May/14 2nd
with Ian
john lynch 27/Apr/14 Lead
with Bethan D
tprebs 18/Apr/14 2nd O/S

Lovely reachy climbing

with Conor Cadden
cjcuni 18/Apr/14 Lead O/S
MarkRoe 11/Apr/14 Lead O/S
woody99i 11/Apr/14 2nd β
Hidden 09/Apr/14 2nd
Hidden 09/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Dizz 01/Mar/14 2nd


with peter h
Hidden ??/2014 -
Matthew Ferrier 17/Dec/13 2nd O/S
with Ben, Nick Priestley
Nick1812P 17/Dec/13 Lead O/S
with Ben Ochner, Matt
Hidden 16/Nov/13 Lead
dannyboy83 04/Nov/13 Solo O/S
Hidden 05/Oct/13 2nd rpt
Marti999 01/Oct/13 Lead O/S
with Debbie
Marti999 01/Oct/13 Lead O/S
with Debbie
Just Another Dave 01/Oct/13 Lead O/S
with Andy
John Nuttall 18/Sep/13 2nd
with Simon
Hidden 18/Sep/13 Lead
john lynch 10/Sep/13 2nd
with Joe Holden, ed luke
Neil R 25/Aug/13 Lead β
with Ian
Pero 15/Aug/13 2nd
mat cooper 11/Aug/13 Lead O/S
mikealexpayne 11/Aug/13 TR
cem 04/Aug/13 Lead rpt

All rather sketchy. Humid after the rain and the rock felt quite greasy

with Barak Amundson, Graham Dolman
dr_botnik 30/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with deacon
Hidden 26/Jul/13 Lead O/S
MikeLeeds 21/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with John McMahon
Toby Dunn 05/Jul/13 Solo
Neil R 30/Jun/13 Lead
with Tim
EDB4YLI55 16/Jun/13 2nd O/S
treg 02/Jun/13 Lead dog

The first time I reached the poor crimps I was too pumped out to pull up to standing on them, so had to take a fall. A rest at ground level and some smoother moves made sure it went the next time. The hard bits are well protected, as it gets run out, so it eases.

with CJ, Dan Osbaldeston
Hidden 01/Jun/13 2nd O/S
Dibdawg 25/May/13 Lead O/S
with Morna Middleton
domskezz 01/May/13 2nd
with Si
Roberttaylor 03/Mar/13 Lead O/S
alex toomey 03/Mar/13 2nd O/S

very reachy crux move

saffy ??/2013 Lead O/S
bwestwood 23/Sep/12 2nd
with pete sargeant
pie_eater_pete 23/Sep/12 Lead O/S
with bwestwood
Alex Winter 02/Sep/12 Lead O/S
with W. Morgan
Jake Young 28/Aug/12 Lead O/S
with Mark R
Liam Ingram 12/Aug/12 Lead rpt
Hidden 12/Aug/12 2nd
Hidden 11/Aug/12 Lead rpt
The Big Sender 11/Aug/12 2nd O/S
hotfeet 09/Aug/12 Lead
with Alex T
jwpil 02/Aug/12 Lead O/S
with Deacon
Chris Craggs 30/Jul/12 2nd

Felt steady today.

with Dan Parkes
Neil R 28/Jul/12 2nd
with Ian
Alex 74 09/Jul/12 2nd
with Alan M
thetradlad 25/Jun/12 TR O/S
greenclimb 24/Jun/12 Lead O/S
salonikaboulder 14/Jun/12 Lead rpt
salonikaboulder 05/Jun/12 2nd O/S


Fragmod 04/Jun/12 2nd
Deezel65 04/Jun/12 TR dog
deacondeacon 22/May/12 Lead O/S
tomsmartacus 22/May/12 2nd β
with John Bramwell
Hidden 12/May/12 Lead
mtempest 09/May/12 2nd
Steve Waters, Mynydd 08/May/12 Lead

Satisfying moves and a great line. I needed 2 attempts to stretch up and reach the obvious flat hold. The first attempt almost resulted in a fall but I was somehow able to drop back down to the small crimpy intermediate holds. The upper section of the climb steepens and looks quite intimidating but turns out to be reasonable. I was carrying cams only but had underestimated the size of the upper horizontal breaks and so inadvertently generated more excitement than was strictly necessary. One to return to again and again.

Hidden 14/Apr/12 Lead β
wi11 14/Apr/12 2nd β
with Ant JW
Hidden 06/Apr/12 Lead dnf
Hidden 06/Apr/12 2nd β
Hidden 01/Apr/12 2nd
Hidden 01/Apr/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 28/Mar/12 Lead O/S
cem 11/Mar/12 2nd rpt
robgixer ??/2012 Lead O/S
Pete Nugent 01/Nov/11 TR

Still found the moves above the break to be very precarious and a long stretch!

Hidden 01/Nov/11 2nd
Andy Peak 1 01/Nov/11 Lead
sophiecb 24/Sep/11 AltLd
with Chad
Chad123 24/Sep/11 AltLd O/S

Nice link up with the E3/E4 below, not surprisingly this felt very easy in comparison but nice break to break moves all the way....

georgel 09/Sep/11 Lead dnf

didn't finish. will need to go back. good route though

with anthony
Peakpdr 21/Aug/11 -
andysroom 20/Aug/11 Lead O/S
with Lizzie
Jonathan Hall 17/Aug/11 Lead

Good fun, only one reachy move.

Tamati 17/Aug/11 2nd
with Jonny
ChrisBrooke 24/Jul/11 Lead rpt
with Hot Rock Tom, Duncan Bell
Hidden 12/Jul/11 2nd rpt
Liam Ingram 12/Jul/11 2nd rpt
The Reaper 06/Jul/11 Lead O/S
Fran S8 05/Jul/11 Lead
Hidden 05/Jul/11 Lead
DannyK 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with Katie
Graeme Hammond 21/Jun/11 2nd rpt
with Jim
Jim Slater 21/Jun/11 Lead O/S
max_chan 14/Jun/11 2nd rpt
with Phil PCC
M_W_Court 14/Jun/11 2nd O/S
JRae 13/Jun/11 Lead
pmurdy 13/Jun/11 Lead O/S
tebs 29/May/11 Lead O/S


with Luke
John Elliott 28/Apr/11 Lead rpt
Hidden 28/Apr/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 24/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Liam Ingram 24/Apr/11 2nd O/S
John Elliott 22/Apr/11 2nd O/S
with Doug Allen
Hidden 29/Mar/11 2nd O/S
AMarchant 29/Mar/11 Lead O/S
geddicakes 26/Mar/11 2nd
with slim, James Restorick, Liam
liamoloughlin 26/Mar/11 Lead
morganator 25/Mar/11 Solo O/S
Ollie B 22/Mar/11 Lead β

mark led, pulled the ropes and led on his gear

with M.Rankine
mark20 22/Mar/11 Lead O/S

20th route on my 20th birthday, excellent.

Dan Mckinlay ??/2011 -
mwatson ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 Lead
uphillnow ??/2011 -
Hidden ?/Dec/10 -
Garron 24/Oct/10 Lead β

Committing feeling mini dyno for the short probably E1 for shorties

Hidden 14/Oct/10 Lead rpt
CharlieMack 02/Oct/10 Lead O/S
with Tom
Hidden 18/Sep/10 2nd O/S
john lynch 17/Sep/10 Lead O/S
with Luke Dickens
caradoc 03/Sep/10 -
with nick yapp
The Bad Cough 08/Aug/10 2nd O/S
jon22 08/Aug/10 Lead
drcorbasisgod 07/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Dogmusher 07/Aug/10 2nd
with chris parson
tri-nitro-tuolumne 29/Jul/10 Lead rpt
with Federico Varengo
schaff 10/Jul/10 Lead O/S

Great climb, 3 stars in my book.

with Tim
Sankey 20/Jun/10 2nd
with Luke
Hidden ?/May/10 2nd
Hidden 24/Apr/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 21/Apr/10 2nd O/S
Nick Taylor 27/Mar/10 Lead O/S
Kirill 21/Mar/10 2nd dog
Hidden ??/2010 -
rurp ??/2010 -
Speeddemonsi ??/2010 Lead O/S
pigeonslipper ??/2010 Lead
RossG ??/2010 -
Hidden 23/Sep/09 2nd O/S
Hidden 23/Sep/09 Lead O/S
leon 12/Sep/09 Lead

found the reach to the poor holds hard. seems like i should have got a jam further out and high stepped to the break my hand was in.

Graeme Hammond 05/Sep/09 Lead O/S

really nice worth 3 stars??, Expected this to feel run out but upon standing up on the crux (felt easy for 5b ) you reach a large ledge, with one easy move to reach more bommer gear, further nice moves lead to the top :D

with Pete aka Dad
Ketu 27/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with Nigel
JDDD 22/Aug/09 2nd
Mike W 18/Aug/09 Lead O/S
nikmorgan ?/Aug/09 TR
Chris Craggs 21/Jun/09 2nd
with Steve Cunnington
Mike_Hayes 21/Jun/09 Solo
Hidden 25/May/09 Lead rpt
ellie macpherson 24/May/09 Lead

Really worth doing

with mike henesey
Hidden 10/May/09 2nd rpt
Si dH 10/May/09 Lead rpt
with Neil Furniss
max_chan 07/May/09 Lead O/S
with Chris PCC
mikehenesy ?/May/09 2nd dog
with Ellie
daveclarke5 13/Apr/09 TR dog
with Andy
Becky E 13/Apr/09 2nd β
AJ007 16/Mar/09 2nd
dan gibson 16/Mar/09 2nd O/S
with AJ
BRUCESTRAC ??/2009 -
petemeads 15/Aug/08 Lead

Lovely route! Delicate, reachy, no pressure.

with AJMeads
Hidden 07/May/08 2nd O/S
IanJackson 18/Feb/08 Solo O/S
lowersharpnose 01/Jan/08 Lead
Hidden ??/2008 -
daveagriff ??/2008 Lead
Hidden ??/2008 -
Hidden 05/Sep/07 2nd O/S
btc 02/Aug/07 Lead
with ian lovatt
Hidden 11/Jul/07 Lead rpt
Hidden 01/Jul/07 Lead O/S
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH 09/Jun/07 Lead rpt
HimTiggins 02/Jun/07 2nd O/S
with John, Paul
Hidden 20/May/07 2nd rpt
Coel Hellier 20/May/07 Lead
Martin Bennett 20/May/07 -
with NickH, SW
maybe_si 04/May/07 Lead O/S
with charlie
The old James turnbull ??/2007 -
Si dH 05/Nov/06 2nd rpt
with Neil Furniss/Tom Lambert
reg_measures 16/Oct/06 Lead O/S
with pete kenyon
Luke Brooks 26/Sep/06 2nd O/S
Si dH 29/Mar/06 Lead O/S

I thought soft for 5b but a wee bit run out so definitely HVS. A route which was really good for its variety and quality of climbing - maybe 3 stars - a nice surprise.

with Tom Lambert
Hidden 26/Jun/05 Lead
Stig 19/Apr/05 Lead O/S
with Charlie Reade-Jahn
Hidden ??/2005 2nd
Hidden ??/2005 -
ChrisBrooke 18/Jul/04 Lead O/S
with John Inkpen
Hidden ??/2004 Lead
Hidden ?/Sep/03 Lead
beermonkey ?/Aug/03 2nd
with Mr Binks
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH 14/Jun/03 2nd β
Hidden 31/Aug/02 2nd O/S
Jon Greengrass 31/Aug/02 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/02 2nd
Mark Davies PK ?/Aug/02 Lead O/S
with Fiend
cem 08/Jun/02 Lead O/S
with Sally Dipple
Ben Bransby 07/Jun/02 Solo
Chris the Tall ?/Jun/02 TR
chris sm 12/May/02 Lead O/S
Jon Greengrass ??/2002 -
Hidden 22/May/01 2nd
Hidden 13/Jan/01 2nd
Ropeboy 04/Jun/00 Lead
Hidden 18/Mar/00 Lead
nige ??/2000 -
Hidden ??/2000 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2000 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2000 -
tlr ??/2000 Lead
Hidden 04/Jul/99 2nd O/S
Hidden 30/Aug/98 Lead
Chris Ellis 05/Aug/98 Lead
with Martin Veale
ajc 13/Dec/97 TR dog
buxtoncoffeelover 22/Aug/97 2nd

lead variant 'bad friday' missing mid-traverse step-up 22.8.97

roncaves 15/May/97 2nd
with Gavin Williams
andrew300169 ?/Nov/96 2nd
with Pom
Strong Steve 15/Sep/96 Lead O/S
RossG123 ??/1996 Solo
Hidden 21/Oct/95 Lead
John Southworth 16/Jul/95 Solo O/S
Hidden 31/May/95 2nd
Rich Kirby 26/May/95 -
nai ??/1995 Lead
Hammy 01/May/94 2nd
with Fai Kwong
Neil R 01/Aug/93 Lead
with Sharon
Hidden 24/Feb/93 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/1993 Lead
crossleysm ??/1993 Solo


Chris Ellis 19/Aug/92 2nd
walts4 19/Aug/92 Lead
J R R Hartley 28/Jul/92 2nd O/S
with Kev Turner
NickJH ?/Aug/91 Lead O/S
with JOwen
Hidden 30/Jul/91 Lead
steve taylor ?/Jun/91 Solo
with stumpy
sadams 01/Mar/91 2nd
with Kev Mellieu
clark alston ?/Jan/91 Solo
with Nick White
TonyF 22/May/90 Lead
with Tony Cox
Hidden 08/Oct/89 Lead
goi.ashmore 08/Oct/89 Lead O/S
with Dave Forster
Hidden 04/Oct/89 2nd
Stoney Boy 02/Oct/89 Lead O/S
with Colin Hughes
Hidden 02/Jul/89 Lead
Hidden 02/Jul/89 2nd
Gambit 19/Jun/89 Lead O/S
with Barney
Roget ??/1989 Lead O/S
with jim
Hidden 13/Sep/87 Lead O/S
Hidden 14/Aug/87 Lead O/S
Rob Davies 16/May/87 Lead
Hidden ?/May/87 Lead β
Hidden ?/Sep/86 Lead
Tom V 03/May/86 2nd
with Howie Darwin
Hidden 26/Apr/86 2nd
Hidden ?/Jun/85 -
Hidden 29/May/85 Lead
stp 16/Feb/85 Solo O/S
Dave Musgrove 16/Aug/84 Lead

then known as Ginny Come Lately.

Hidden 07/Apr/84 2nd
Hidden 07/May/83 Lead
Mark Kemball 05/Dec/81 Lead
Hidden 16/Apr/76 2nd
Canyak ??/1973 -
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