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Ticklists: "A Graded List of a Few Welsh Climbs" Aka ROGER'S LIST.

Hidden 25/Oct/17 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Oct/17 2nd O/S
Andy Chubb 09/Aug/17 AltLd

Finished up PMP.

with Nick Gregory
senior rita 07/Aug/17 AltLd O/S

With Roger who let me have the crux while he did the wet slippery stuff. Good route interesting traverseing.

Hidden 17/Jul/17 AltLd O/S
Pinguville 08/Jul/17 AltLd

led p2 lovely moving along the diagonal crack good gear and nice moves

with George
George_Surf 08/Jul/17 AltLd O/S

P1 up the root, nor that easy to follow bad description. Charlie p2

rachelpearce01 03/Jul/17 Lead
George_Surf 03/Jul/17 2nd O/S

Rachel led p2 starting from the bottom of barbarian (to get to monkey puzzle). A bit awkward gaining the tree then nice flake crack all the way

michael burrows 01/Jul/17 Lead rpt

Was using an old guide, so ended up doing the first pitch ok quakerman, did not fancy the vegatated finish, so finished up PMP

Hidden 07/Jun/17 AltLd O/S
Jim Malo 27/May/17 2nd dnf

Rained off

with Mark
Hidden 18/May/17 AltLd
Dexter JW 07/May/17 Lead O/S

First pitch of quakerman. P3 wildly overgrown but still did it.

with Popz
Grahamski 05/May/17 2nd β
UglyKidJoe 05/May/17 2nd
Dizz 22/Apr/17 Lead O/S

Crux pitch only as part of direct start to pmp

with emma rooney
cpoad 17/Apr/17 Lead dog

Crack on pitch two was wet and I didn't totally trust my feet or hands and pulled on gear at one point. Not sure it warrants two stars.

with Clare F
Heather Osborne 23/Oct/16 AltLd O/S

Stormé accidentally started up the first pitch of The Quakerman instead, was half way up the cracks section before asking to be lowered back to the tree. Phil led the rest of that pitch then we continued back on GW. Enjoyed the last pitch, didn't want to finish on PMP as had done before.

Storme 23/Oct/16 AltLd

I led first and last pitch. First pitch got lost and ended up leading e2, got very scared and lowered to a nearby tree!

with Heather Osborne, Phil Hawarden
Philip Hawarden 23/Oct/16 AltLd
fizzychewitt 27/Aug/16 AltLd

Found p1 description strange which meant Jayne ended up going direct from left hand tree up cracks for p2-hard, part of quakerman. P3 great, linked it with vegetated p4 then finished up pmp

with Jayne
ginger 31/May/16 AltLd
with Nick
beckycoles 27/May/16 Lead
with Si
Si 27/May/16 2nd

Some random mix of pitches! I think the original line would be horrid as vegetated at top. Finished up PMP

with beckycoles, Siobhan
Hidden 14/Feb/16 AltLd
Hidden 14/Feb/16 AltLd O/S
joedean ??/2016 -
johnmk ??/2016 Lead O/S
Climbingspike ??/2016 -
Hidden ??/2016 -
Hidden ??/2016 -
PAJames ??/2016 -
Andy Clarke 03/Oct/15 AltLd O/S

Enjoyable throughout, providing you finish up Poor Man's Peuterey. Gave myself hardest move of climb by traversing too high between trees: route radar clicked straight back into Clarke-Gray malfunction mode! Led P2 (from wrong tree!) & PMP 3+4.

with Rob
Mr. K 26/Sep/15 AltLd O/S

Me pitch 1 which was vague, Pete pitch 2 + 3 which were pretty good, Me pitch 4 + 5 which were completely overgrown vegetated nonsense!

Hidden 25/Jul/15 AltLd O/S
Louvet 27/Jun/15 AltLd
with Cath HW, Tarquin
Tarquin 27/Jun/15 AltLd
with Louise, cathhw
nodwas 16/Jun/15 Lead

Seemed hard for the grade! Interesting first pitch and super overgrown top!

Hidden 14/Jun/15 AltLd
iwanap 14/Jun/15 AltLd

Climbed pitch 1 to 3, pitches 4 and 5 were too vegetated to climb

with Euryn
FernandoHidalgo 05/Jun/15 2nd O/S
wynaptomos 30/May/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/May/15 AltLd β
caradoc 18/Apr/15 AltLd O/S

Confusing description on pitch 1 but it's obvious where you are aiming for. Finished up PMP as the upper pitches of GW are repulsive.

with Matt H.
ads 18/Apr/15 AltLd
SAF 06/Apr/15 AltLd rpt
with Phil
Hidden 06/Apr/15 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Apr/15 AltLd
bwestwood 27/Mar/15 AltLd
pie_eater_pete 27/Mar/15 AltLd O/S
jcw ??/2015 -
dan-8990 15/Oct/14 AltLd O/S
with JS
Lucylou19 14/Oct/14 2nd

hard in the grade

Hidden 14/Oct/14 2nd rpt
Hidden 27/Sep/14 Lead O/S
Mark Eddy 08/Sep/14 Lead
with Kate
Hidden 01/Sep/14 2nd dog
Pete_Frost 01/Sep/14 AltLd RP

Wet, wet, wet. Greased-off on P2 and P3 but came back to the belay and climbed the pitches clean. Finished up Poor Man's Peuterey. Would be delightful if dry.

with Jeannie Sherwood
Hidden 16/Aug/14 Lead
Hidden 09/Aug/14 Lead
Melok 13/Jul/14 AltLd
ItsHuwHaribo 13/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

Did the roof of monkey puzzle as a alternative route. Climbing in the rain can be fun :D

Melok 13/Jul/14 AltLd
andy75 13/Jul/14 2nd
with ioan jones
Pixie-Andy 29/Jun/14 Lead O/S

Suggest you merge pitch 1-2 & 3-4, but pitch 4 is knee deep in green, probably best avoided! 2 Stars for the start and end, so 2 stars if you avoid pitch 4.

Swotson 29/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Tough little 4c move. Finished up PMP as the crack was full of vegetation

Hidden 28/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
suds_01 19/Jun/14 AltLd
PeteWilson 29/May/14 AltLd O/S
with John P
ads 26/May/14 AltLd dnf

backed off, pretty wet / greasy on slab p1... one to come back to.

with Julie
Monkey_Alan 26/May/14 AltLd O/S

Led P1, 4-5. Took ages to make the move off the first tree.

Max Streeton 26/May/14 AltLd
Hidden 23/Mar/14 Lead O/S
highclimber 15/Mar/14 AltLd O/S

Lovely climb and well protected. I attempted to go direct up to 2nd belay but was thwarted by my lack of ability.

nodwas ?/Mar/14 AltLd
Hidden ?/Mar/14 Lead O/S
rbharries 17/Dec/13 AltLd
with ollie mentalz
Hidden 12/Oct/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 11/Aug/13 AltLd O/S
Col Kingshott 11/Aug/13 AltLd O/S
with Chris
magsb 11/Aug/13 2nd
with John Roberts
Hidden 03/Aug/13 2nd O/S
Steve Woollard 03/Aug/13 Lead

Quite dirty, thought P1 4c, P2 4b, P3 hard 5a. Rest looked very overgrown so finished up PMP which provided an excellent finish.

Hidden 26/Jul/13 -
Hidden 22/Jul/13 Lead O/S
Louis Hume 01/Jun/13 Lead

Adventurous, we like.

with Oli
SteveM 04/May/13 Lead
with Kat
kitkat78 04/May/13 2nd O/S
with SteveM
roberts1234567890 27/Apr/13 AltLd
simonvand 27/Apr/13 AltLd
Graeme Hammond 30/Mar/13 AltLd O/S

bit of of a combination, Led P1: stated up this then climbed the direct to the 5a cracks as for The Quakermen to the 2nd belay but without using the tree routes as I couldn't see where to traverse right. Pitch 2 Trevor led the awkward corner before doing the upper pitch of Poor Man's Peutery into the final section of Great Western. Good combination HVS 5a this way?

with Trevor Wilson
Andy Peak 1 29/Mar/13 Solo

Was convince this was pmp its not! A much beter start to pmp

Hidden 28/Feb/13 AltLd
Ray Sparks 28/Feb/13 Lead O/S
with adam
eel ??/2013 2nd O/S
Hidden ??/2013 -
Hidden ??/2013 -
victim of mathematics 08/Sep/12 AltLd O/S

Led P1&2, tough moves on both for 4b. Finished up PMP. Really good.

with Dave
Pete Nugent 26/Aug/12 AltLd rpt
with Pete Blackburne (Blacky)
Rob Davies 23/Jul/12 AltLd

Three Stooges antics on P3

with Neil Hyde, Phil Ashton
Hidden 20/May/12 AltLd O/S
Tom Doldon 20/May/12 Lead O/S
with sam simpson 48
pebbles 12/May/12 AltLd rpt

me p1 max p2. tricky and poorly protected traverse on p1 - dthought 4c rather than 4b. slanting crack on p2 is getting a bit vegetated. ran out of time so abbed off before final pitch (which isnt really the point of the route anyway)

with max
Hidden 06/May/12 Lead
Hidden 06/May/12 AltLd
Dave Almond 06/May/12 AltLd O/S

Linked pitch one of this with pitch two of Monkey Puzzle and last pitch of Harvey Proctor Spanking

with Adam Crook
adam06 06/May/12 2nd
A Crook 06/May/12 AltLd O/S

pitch 1 and 2

Jones_88 06/May/12 Lead

linked with monkey puzzle for a great combo. Lead p1&2

Hidden 05/May/12 AltLd O/S
Leelogs 05/May/12 AltLd O/S

Great adventure! Doesn't give up right to the end. Led P1 and P3&4

with SCC
EllieWoods 05/May/12 AltLd O/S

Led P2/P3/P4 in one pitch

with Martin
Hidden 14/Apr/12 AltLd
Hidden 13/Apr/12 -
Hidden 12/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 12/Apr/12 AltLd O/S
Zoomer 12/Apr/12 AltLd O/S

Missed the traverse on P1 to go direct at 5a (the Quakermen). 2nd on the 4c pitch but laybacked it...don't, pumped stupid, step left the edge instead. Last chimney cheeky as well.

Marq 31/Mar/12 AltLd O/S


with Dave P LMC
katherinesydney 31/Mar/12 AltLd O/S

Tricky in places! Fairly high in the grade. Scared myself leading pitch 2. Lost 2 nuts to the god of fearful fumbling. And nearly lost a shoe to a thrutchy chimney. But excellent value climb!

with leeds james
james.slater 11/Mar/12 AltLd O/S

First three pitches before joining pmp. Very wet third pitch was entertaining!

with Fresher Dave
kabutsu ??/2012 Lead
Callum Anderson ??/2012 -
dainbramaged999 20/Nov/11 Lead O/S

think it was this route! Josh lead a different 1st pitch not in guide, on the left of Great western. I lead a tricky step across right onto 2nd pitch and up the v, past some very loose blocks which made it worrying!! Then joined PMP

Hidden 29/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
willoates 29/Aug/11 Lead O/S

needs a clean.

with Iona
Donald Kelly 11/Jul/11 2nd O/S

First three pitches only, then onto pitch three of PPP. Lead first pitch. Mike lead second and third.

Tim Bateman 02/Jul/11 AltLd
with Alistair Crawford
Hidden 19/Jun/11 Lead rpt
Hidden 11/Jun/11 AltLd
Hidden 06/Jun/11 AltLd
stvredmond 06/Jun/11 AltLd

some good pitches on this. nice mini adventure route, fairly straightforward though with one tough move

iwanap 05/Jun/11 AltLd O/S

Good climb, very difficult corner on the third pitch.

with Gerwyn
Hidden 09/May/11 -
kleinej 09/Apr/11 AltLd O/S

Robert did P1 of Quakermen (replaces P1 & P2). I did P3 and P4 of Great Western. Robert P5. Hard really to recommend this climb except for the first couple pitches. The scramble in the middle and exit chimneys are not great.

with Robert
rd20 09/Apr/11 AltLd O/S

Chose to do twin cracks first pitch of Quakerman instead (HVS?5a)

with Jason
dan ely 06/Mar/11 AltLd O/S
with jon (ukc reading)
Richard Kemble 20/Jan/11 AltLd O/S

HVS start from the E2 into the normal finish, did the last pitches

with Bubbles
Rory Shaw ??/2011 -
Hidden 12/Dec/10 2nd
APRS 20/Nov/10 AltLd
with Aaron O'Leary
popov86 20/Nov/10 AltLd
joeydurkin 03/Sep/10 Lead dnf

First two pitches.

with Pete smith
mikelaing ?/Jun/10 AltLd
with Ian Whitehead
The Bad Cough 09/May/10 AltLd O/S
with Lee Bonner
carlh ?/May/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Apr/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 10/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
SAF 11/Feb/10 2nd
simeclimb68 ??/2010 -
Hidden 09/Nov/09 -
Hidden 12/Oct/09 AltLd
willson 12/Oct/09 Lead
with Andy
Hidden ?/Sep/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/Aug/09 2nd
Hidden ?/Aug/09 Lead
Hidden 19/Apr/09 AltLd
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
Hidden ??/2009 AltLd
en7edh ??/2009 2nd
Hidden 29/May/08 AltLd O/S
Hammy 16/May/08 Lead
with Joe Gittins
Trobbo 01/May/08 AltLd
with martin bennett
Martin Bennett 01/May/08 -
with Terry Rob
sammoore 09/Feb/08 AltLd O/S
with Richard Hirst
daveagriff ??/2008 Lead
Eccentric 04/Nov/07 Lead O/S

Was looking for poor mans and ended up this, not quite what was expect but a dam good climb all the same! (Only got as far as the nose on old mans tho)

with Helen Maris
MikeT ?/Sep/07 Lead rpt
with JR
featuresforfeet 27/Jun/07 AltLd O/S
Dan 85 03/Jun/07 2nd O/S

Climbed first pitchs to gain Monkey Puzzle

with Jonny
steve mee 20/May/07 AltLd
with Andy Petner
Hidden 06/May/07 AltLd
Hidden 21/Apr/07 Lead O/S
ritchierich 10/Apr/07 AltLd O/S
with Bob Dickson
Matt Tranter ??/2007 -
Hidden 25/Oct/06 Lead
Hidden 12/Aug/06 AltLd
Chesh 25/Jun/06 Lead
with Martin
My Gravity 19/Jun/06 AltLd β
with Angel
a_d_tru 28/May/06 2nd O/S
with Alex, Carol U
Hidden 06/May/06 AltLd
Hidden ??/2006 -
Rich A-Wilkes 15/Oct/05 AltLd O/S

Superb route!

with Dale
Dale ?/Oct/05 AltLd O/S
with rich
BlueJohn 15/Feb/05 AltLd
with John Hempston
a_radiohead_fan ??/2005 -
John Kettle ??/2005 Lead
Hidden 24/Aug/03 Lead
Simon Caldwell 22/Jun/03 Lead O/S

Variant of first 3 pitches only (up to the nose on PMP), in mistake for the normal start of that route!

with Carmen
Hidden 29/Mar/03 AltLd
Derek Ryden 07/Oct/02 Lead O/S
with Anna
snowy owl ?/Oct/01 Lead O/S
with Gill Rimmer
DubyaJamesDubya ?/Jun/01 Lead O/S
auld al ?/May/01 AltLd O/S
kennylind ??/2001 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/00 AltLd
kev davies ??/2000 -
zero six ??/2000 Lead O/S
Paul Bishopp 02/Sep/99 2nd

another great day out with Stuart - he fills you with confidence and I would second him anywhere ( just about )

Chris the Tall ?/May/99 AltLd

Led 1st, 3rd (crux) and 5th pitches

with Dave Gurney
Simonfarfaraway ??/1999 AltLd
with Steve Hastings
Hidden ?/May/98 AltLd
Rog Wilko ?/Jan/97 Lead
with Debbie Wilkinson
Ched ??/1997 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
Paul Boardman 18/Jul/96 AltLd O/S
with Iain Boardman
sdht ?/Jun/96 -
five ?/Apr/96 AltLd O/S
with TW
Hidden 23/Sep/95 AltLd O/S
babymoac 08/Jul/95 Lead
with cash
colin milton 08/Jun/95 Lead dnf

completed p1 unable to continue as second vomiting, think he missed all the holds.

with eric milton
Hidden 20/Jul/94 Lead
Hidden 14/Jul/94 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Apr/94 Lead
Strong Steve 15/Aug/93 Lead O/S
Richard Weller 11/Jul/93 -
with Robin Cowan
Budge ?/May/93 Lead O/S
with Ellen Williams
Hidden ??/1993 AltLd
Hidden ??/1993 Lead
jacque ?/Sep/92 AltLd

Fell off leading 4c pitch- gear held!

with Chris M
Hidden 31/May/92 AltLd
frost ?/May/91 2nd
uphillnow ??/1990 Solo

Did it first in 1964.Soloed on a number of occasions, first in 1990

andy gittins ??/1990 Lead
Hidden ??/1990 -
Hidden 29/Oct/88 Lead
michael burrows 10/Apr/88 AltLd O/S
with pete roberts
Hidden 28/Feb/88 Lead
Ali MacDonald 09/Oct/87 Lead O/S

Joint Service Rock Climbing Instructors Course.

Hidden ?/Sep/86 Lead rpt
Martin Bennett 01/Jun/86 -
with Bill McRae, MT
Hidden ?/May/85 Lead
Ian Jones ??/1983 -
Melok ??/1983 -
nigehughes ?/Jul/82 Lead
with Graham Hartley
Hidden ?/May/82 2nd
Andy Fielding 13/Sep/81 AltLd
with Mike Gilbert
Chris Terrey ?/May/81 AltLd
with Ken Taylor
Ghastly Rubberfeet ??/1981 Solo
ewar woowar ??/1980 Lead
William Robertson ??/1980 Lead O/S
with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc
Ian Clare ??/1980 -
duncan ?/Oct/79 Lead
Mark Kemball 16/Sep/78 AltLd
with Hammes
RichardMc 05/Dec/76 AltLd
with Don Hammond
Rob Davies 06/Sep/76 Lead
with Mike Papworth
Bolt Phobia 28/Mar/76 Lead
with Nicole
Bolt Phobia 25/Feb/76 AltLd
with Kit Spencer, John Broadwell
Steve Lewis ?/Oct/75 AltLd
with Sandy Wilkie
kjacks ??/1975 Lead
with Anthony Griffiths
granitbahn ??/1975 AltLd
Mike Owen ??/1975 AltLd O/S
with John Roberts
Hidden 10/Apr/74 Lead
RichardMc 30/Mar/74 AltLd rpt
with Harry Woodbridge
Bob M ?/Jan/74 -
with Geraldine King
Hidden 10/Apr/72 AltLd
Martin Bennett 21/Mar/72 -
with JD, Geoff Baker
RichardMc 02/Jan/72 AltLd
with Roger Everett
tapley 05/Aug/71 AltLd
with Dave Hearnshaw
RichardMc 15/Nov/70 AltLd

Stared on a girdle called Arctic Circle but finished up this

with Sally Westmacott, Ken Salter
mikej 19/Apr/70 Lead
with Wil Hurford
lump'o'lead ??/1970 -
Dave Musgrove 01/Mar/69 AltLd
with Bob Knapton
RichardMc 29/Mar/67 2nd
with Ian Stromberg
Hidden 17/Jul/66 AltLd
eroica64 12/Feb/66 AltLd

Very wet.

with Eddy Edkins
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