21m. [TIGER BAY] Climbs the obvious steep crack with excellent protection. The oak mentioned in the guide is no more. An easy scramble leads to the ab station above Motion Pictures.

Country_Boy 12/Aug Lead O/S

Nice route, definitely 5a. Crappy top out.

with Jane
Droyd 09/Jul Lead O/S

So that we could retrieve Andy's gear from Motion Pictures. Quite bad and loose, with an unenjoyably rattly and soil-covered topout.

Fat Andy Heff 09/Jul 2nd O/S
with Droyd
Hidden 17/Jun Lead
Hidden 11/Jun 2nd
Hidden 25/May Lead
Hidden 25/May 2nd O/S
EmilyElouise 22/Apr Lead O/S
with SJ
mihai 08/Apr Lead

The missing oak mentioned in the guidebook confuses things.

Hidden 04/Sep/16 Lead O/S
Gavdee1 06/Aug/16 2nd
with Steve
Rafal Malczyk 06/Aug/16 Lead O/S
with Richard
charley 17/Jun/16 2nd O/S
with Ian
ciderspider 17/Jun/16 Lead dog

Fell off the crux. Actually got the route wrong as thought it was a severe. However got back on and got it done. One for another day. Fun route

with Charley
Hidden 04/Jun/16 2nd
Hidden 30/May/16 2nd O/S
EllieWoods 28/May/16 Lead O/S
with Gareth, Leo
leowoods 28/May/16 2nd O/S
Bristol_Quornstar 24/May/16 2nd O/S
with Sam de Belder
Hidden 15/May/16 Lead O/S
cdpuk 15/May/16 2nd O/S
Hidden 07/May/16 2nd
simoncov 17/Apr/16 Lead dog

Placing gear was pretty strenuous at some points, ended up hanging off a nut to free a under-cammed friend. Plenty of placements, and good climbing, just a shame about the loose rocks and the top out.

with Etta
Etta 17/Apr/16 2nd

Hard lower section, with loads of dust and poor holds. Keep your helmet on and beware of loose rocks!

Hidden 02/Apr/16 Lead O/S
minty1984 19/Sep/15 Lead O/S
davenev 19/Sep/15 Lead O/S
with luke
Mr Tickle 19/Sep/15 2nd O/S
with davenev
tonevert 27/Jun/15 Lead O/S
with yvette
Richard L 27/Jun/15 Lead O/S
alaster tonge 14/Jun/15 Lead O/S
with Lailah, Assad Lahlou
Ironmax 07/Jun/15 -
with Ben H, TP
TP 07/Jun/15 Lead O/S
mreynolds 06/Jun/15 2nd O/S
with Hamish
Hidden 06/Jun/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 06/Jun/15 2nd
Hamish777 06/Jun/15 Lead O/S

Nice, the rock is great and the climbing is fun. The top section is a loose so be careful, also there is no in-situ tat so we used the large tree about 5m directly back from the top. Thanks again to the German team from CUCC who fished out my stuck gear, cheers guys, I hope you enjoyed the beers!

matt1024 19/Apr/15 Lead O/S

Steep but fun. Top-out is completely naff though.

George Frisby 12/Apr/15 2nd O/S

Pumpy, steep.

steve_gibbs 12/Apr/15 Lead O/S
Braintax 14/Sep/14 Lead
_m.cox_ 13/Sep/14 2nd β
petern ?/Aug/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 22/Jun/14 Lead dog
bonelessivar 04/May/14 2nd
wurzelinzummerset 04/May/14 Lead rpt

Strenuous start. Top-out looks horrendous, but pull-up on the left of the ledge at the top, sling the tree on the left, then head up into the woods rightwards towards a more sturdy tree to belay. Ab' off from the tat on the tree over the route to the right (looking in).

with Ric
Phil PBC 18/Apr/14 -
with Josh baldwin
Tim W 29/Mar/14 Lead O/S
with Alys Rook
steve phillips 29/Mar/14 Lead O/S
with evhall
Matt250 22/Mar/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 22/Mar/14 2nd
Hidden ??/2014 -
Jim Malo 29/Dec/13 Lead O/S
with Neil
chrisscutt 16/Nov/13 Lead O/S
with tomar
sheelba 05/Oct/13 2nd
LucasHarazin 24/Aug/13 Lead O/S
Kirill 29/Jun/13 2nd O/S
with Artyom Skrobov
Hidden 09/Jun/13 2nd
stevorobs3 ?/Jun/13 Lead O/S
with Xandra
bpmclimb 03/May/13 Lead rpt
with Helen S
Hidden 03/May/13 2nd β
riff156 24/Feb/13 Lead O/S
with Jo Smith
Hidden ??/2013 -
pheotleyr 22/Sep/12 Lead O/S

would deserve 2 stars with a better top-out, which at the moment is really crappy and unpleasant

with Alan
wurzelinzummerset 22/Sep/12 2nd
with Pete
Hidden 16/Sep/12 2nd O/S
Hidden 16/Sep/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/Aug/12 Lead O/S
alastairbegley 20/Aug/12 2nd

easiest climb I have ever fallen on, wasn't paying proper attention while seconding...

Malpractise 14/Jul/12 2nd

Agreed - hideous top out. Candidate for a bolted lower off!

Hidden 14/Jul/12 2nd β
Will Gordon 14/Jul/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 27/May/12 2nd O/S
Hooo 27/May/12 2nd

Nice route, spoiled by the top out.

with Steve
Phil Murray 26/May/12 Lead rpt

The top is now far more tenuous - sturdy trees are gone, it's a delicate tip toe to the first decent one way, way up on the right. Good route tho!

with Steve Wright
MikeLell 06/May/12 Lead O/S
with Dave
crossdressingrodney 06/May/12 Lead O/S

My 300th VS. Really top quality route, I think it deserves at least 2 stars. Psychologically, I think it helps to approach this as a very well-protected HVS, although VS 5a is fair. Only problem is the disappearance of the "overhanging oak" in the guide. All that remains is a stump and lots of loose earth. The top out, while dirty and delicate, is protected well-enough by a dead trunk and a sturdy holly, and the scramble up the bank to a big beech is straightforward.

with Andy B
Hidden 22/Oct/11 Lead O/S
Trisha Murphy 22/Oct/11 2nd O/S
with Seb
TCarrick 08/Oct/11 Lead O/S
Jeremy Wilton 30/Sep/11 2nd O/S

pro - but hard

with Richard Brown
mes32 30/Jul/11 2nd β
will_benfold 30/Jul/11 2nd O/S
cameron_hall 30/Jul/11 Lead O/S

What everyone else said - tree at the top is missing and top-out is horrendous.

MarkRyder 02/Jul/11 2nd O/S
with James P
jamespilgrim 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S

Nice route, horrendous top out.

with Mark
thomasadixon 27/Jun/11 Lead rpt
with Mike
Tom Brierley Gore 14/Jun/11 2nd O/S
karenhh 14/Jun/11 Lead

My first VS. It is a pity the oak on the top is gone...

Tom Brierley Gore 14/Jun/11 2nd O/S
eduardo 29/May/11 2nd O/S

Tree missing at top, a bit loose & dirty. Nice climbing below.

Geras 15/May/11 Lead

did need one rest but not dogged

RamblingRyan 15/May/11 2nd
with Col
Hidden 15/May/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 28/Apr/11 Lead
Andrew Sloan 24/Apr/11 2nd O/S

Unpleasant loose top out

with Tim
davidgc 17/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Slick 17/Apr/11 Lead
Hidden 17/Apr/11 2nd
Hidden 09/Apr/11 2nd rpt
Hidden 09/Apr/11 Lead O/S
evhall 20/Mar/11 Lead dog

quite sustained - lovely route - no tree at top - just leaves, dust and rocks - bit nasty

with JamesG
MarkCunnington 19/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Bede 19/Mar/11 2nd
WalnutHorse 19/Mar/11 Lead O/S
colkurtz 15/Aug/10 Lead
with Robb
Hidden 15/Aug/10 Lead
Hidden 15/Aug/10 Solo
Chris Sansum 08/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 31/Jul/10 2nd O/S
hardoreVdiffBen 31/Jul/10 Lead O/S
with Remus
Nigel R Lewis 25/Jul/10 2nd

Top roped in July 2003 with Naomi Watson

with Steve Kedward
SteveK 25/Jul/10 Lead dog
Julie Carroll 20/Jul/10 Lead O/S
with Steve Rivers
Fatclimber 10/Jul/10 2nd β
zombie_pat 03/Jul/10 2nd O/S
with Lewis, Nick
suffolknick 03/Jul/10 Lead dog

Spent ages awkwardly trying to get some gear in at the crux, got so pumped that I ended up resting on the gear.

with lou, Rob Patterson
jtree03 13/Jun/10 Lead
with Brother Al
stuart34 25/May/10 Lead O/S
with Jess Christley
Jess Christley 25/May/10 2nd
with Stuart Inchley
Hidden 23/May/10 Lead O/S
Postmanpat 09/Apr/10 Lead

The oak tree is no more,presumably the victim of the harsh winter. Belayed way back on the solid trees above and abbed off the sling above Motion Picture.

five 04/Apr/10 Lead dog

The tree has fallen from the top making the exit quite loose and tricky at the moment.

with TW
Phil PBC ??/2010 -
TP ??/2010 Lead
Hidden 07/Nov/09 2nd O/S
bobbarnes00 07/Nov/09 2nd O/S
Poco Loco 07/Nov/09 Lead O/S

Couple of hardish moves but good gear. Nice route. Sitting in the oak tree is a very comfortable belay!

Sandrine 04/Oct/09 2nd
with George
gingergeorge 04/Oct/09 Lead
JPGR ?/Oct/09 Lead O/S
kleinej 12/Sep/09 2nd
with Loic
Hidden 16/Aug/09 Lead O/S
stephaneSi 16/Aug/09 2nd
Hidden 15/Aug/09 Lead O/S
aged_ape 23/Jul/09 Lead O/S
with IH
Hidden 28/Jun/09 Lead
Hidden 27/Jun/09 2nd rpt
catemuir 13/Jun/09 2nd
aged_ape 11/Jun/09 Lead O/S
with IH
chrisallan 23/May/09 Lead dog
greedo 22/May/09 Lead rpt
with Matt goater
bpmclimb 02/May/09 2nd rpt
with Rupert
freemanTom 21/Mar/09 Lead O/S

Coolest Belay at top, sitting in huge oak tree. Especially considering the effort required to get to the tree.

with Richard Henton
aipattison 15/Mar/09 Lead O/S

Thought it was Wolf whistle!

with Joe, Samir
cem 25/Oct/08 2nd
Hidden 14/May/08 Lead O/S
CarolineH 16/Feb/08 2nd O/S
with Dave and Joe
dobrek 15/Sep/07 Lead dog
with simon4
Hidden 11/Aug/07 Lead β
Hidden 02/Jun/07 Lead O/S
Eccentric 02/Jun/07 2nd O/S
Mark Walter 02/Jun/07 Lead O/S

The first lead i was properly scared on, a great feeling to complete tho

Hidden 19/May/07 2nd O/S
thomasadixon 22/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with Christian
Hidden 06/Feb/07 2nd
Quarryboy ??/2007 2nd O/S

Went to climb "Touch the Fire" and "Motion Pictures" today (25/07/2014) and realised looking up and the cliff that I had seconded a friend of my dad up it absolutely yonks ago, exact date unknown.

with Dave Elder
Huntlyfiddler 30/Nov/06 2nd
bpmclimb 30/Nov/06 Lead O/S

Worth a star

with Clare
Hidden 05/Aug/06 Lead dnf
cpoad 05/Aug/06 Lead O/S
with Clare F
Hidden 15/Jul/06 Lead dog
Wilbur 02/Jul/06 Lead O/S


with Morgan
Hidden 29/May/06 Lead O/S
ericinbristol ??/2006 Lead O/S
with Karin Burnett
Andy Clarke 25/Sep/05 Lead O/S
with Johnny
Rich A-Wilkes 25/Sep/05 2nd O/S
with Rob Grey
Andrew1 26/Aug/05 Lead
with Rachel Smith
upontop ?/Jul/05 Lead O/S
with Chris
drysori ??/2005 Lead O/S
jmr 19/Oct/03 2nd
with Paul Greenhow
Hidden ?/May/03 Lead O/S
Nigel Coe 05/Apr/03 2nd
with Dick Renshaw, Don Sargeant
greedo 25/Jun/02 Lead O/S
with Tim bray
Lepista 20/Aug/00 Lead O/S

With Gill

PaulTclimbing ??/2000 Lead
with An N, Trelewis gang, Neville, Pete n Nona et al, Rich T
alan moore ??/2000 -
nigehughes ?/Aug/98 Lead
with Richie Darling
Roget 09/May/98 Lead O/S
with jon
Colin Edwards 02/Aug/97 Lead
Hidden 01/Jul/97 Lead
mikej 02/Jun/96 Lead
with Bill Turner
jim_randell 30/May/94 Lead O/S
with FW
Hidden 07/Apr/94 Lead
Backinthegame 07/Aug/93 2nd
with Andy Stoddard
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