Rockfax Description
Easier and better than Raisin Frumpsnoot, but it still packs a big punch. Maybe 7b+ for shorties. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Right of Forsinain Motspur, thin and continuous moves up the wall, good!

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, a State of Slate, Top class slate sport 7b-8a, Slate Sport, All the Llanberis SLATE sport @ 7b & 7b+, AMC Uni Ticklist, North Wales 7b and 7b+ starfest!.

jezb1 18/May Lead dog

First redpoint efforts, that top rock over..! Rest of it is super smooth. Next time, hopefully!

paultaylor 18/May Lead RP


tprebs 17/Mar Lead dog

In the snow. fell off the last draw as Kyle sabotaged the draw. Typical Kyle

kylos8048 17/Mar Lead rpt

Took a few falls on one move the first attempt. Got it clean on second attempt.

with tprebs
James-m-h ??/2018 TR dnf

Top roped after one of Ians attempts good moves, but I doubt I'll be back to try again. At no points do the moves ease off got to the 4th bolt, dogged my way to it falling at the traverse and at the top of the "shield".

ianstevens 19/Sep/17 TR dog

All the moves sorted now

tprebs 19/Sep/17 Lead RP

got it while putting up in draws. unexpected

Hidden 19/Sep/17 TR dnf
tomwright1509 19/Sep/17 TR dog

got all moves and when for red point fell on the very last move but not enough skin to give it another go. Hopefully will get next time

samparsons 26/Aug/17 Lead dog

Jeez this completly kicked my ass! So hard!

tprebs 15/Aug/17 Lead dog

fluffed the top on first go

Mike_Hayes 13/Aug/17 TR

Tough for 7b - especially on the toes.

Alex Mason 06/Jul/17 Lead RP

Lots of funky hard moves with good rests. Felt 7c but we climbed in the blazing sun so perhaps cold conditions help, however it did seem that the grade probably changes for inch of height you may or may not have.

with James Doc
Mark Stevenson 23/May/17 Lead dog
meinecke 23/May/17 TR dnf

Tricky moves through the overhang! Off to work on my finger strength...

Hidden 10/May/17 Lead dog
Hidden 05/May/17 Lead dog
DeaNomNom 03/May/17 Lead RP
tprebs 03/May/17 TR dog
Emily C 01/May/17 TR dnf
jonleighton 01/May/17 Lead RP
with Emily C
matt peacey 23/Apr/17 TR dog

The start of what will be a very hard won project, great climbing just bloody hard

JosephTATaylor 23/Apr/17 TR dnf
ianstevens 23/Apr/17 TR

Proj 2k17, will go

with Matt Peacey
Hidden 17/Apr/17 TR dog
James 'pyjamas' 26/Mar/17 Lead dnf

Very enjoyable day, slowly worked up to the penultimate bolt and managed to lead clean to there as well. Fingers and toes hurt too much to go further but the climbing was excellent. Met Johnny Dawes, he claims 7b+ for the route.

GeneralFifi 26/Mar/17 Lead dnf

Really fun, spent the afternoon working this, slowly getting higher. Got it clean up to the penultimate bolt, then had no fingertips and toe pain tolerance left to get through the flake at the very top. One to come back to, easily 2 stars.

jezb1 30/Dec/16 Lead dog

Got all the moves...

matt.stevenson 27/Nov/16 2nd dog
Hidden 25/Nov/16 Lead dog
Hidden 24/Nov/16 Lead dog
Matthew Ferrier 08/Oct/16 Lead RP
Tophe 10/Sep/16 Lead RP
with James Doc
soph 28/Aug/16 Lead dog

Fell off moving left just below last bolt- makes my toes hurt!

with Frances Taylor
soph 23/Aug/16 Lead dog

much much to hot

Hidden 13/Jul/16 Lead RP
patrickcd 16/May/16 Lead dog
with Andy
JamesWilliams 10/Mar/16 Lead RP

After one top rope to remember the moves. went first redpoint. first 7b mega psyched!

Jack Delaney 15/Feb/16 Lead RP
with FreddieSmith, Alice Walton
spalice 15/Feb/16 Lead RP

Words just don't cut it!!! Favourite route ever!!!

jacob shieldhouse hadley 10/Feb/16 Lead O/S

very surprised at doing this!!!

with mum
JamesWilliams 06/Jan/16 TR RP

clean 3rd go. Will go for the lead next time. psyched!

with BenRyle
Hidden ??/2016 -
Rory Shaw ??/2016 -
jezb1 18/Sep/15 TR

working it, project

spragglerocks 04/Sep/15 TR dnf
with Becky
soph 28/Aug/15 Lead dog
belay bunny turned bad 28/Aug/15 Lead dog
with Bridget, soph
FreddieSmith 09/Aug/15 Lead RP
with Becky Good
MichaelGallimore 26/Jul/15 TR dnf

In the rain. Really Small hand and foot holds. Good hard reachy moves

Callum van Werkhoven 08/Jul/15 Lead RP
Hidden 22/Jun/15 TR dnf
Glyn 01/May/15 Lead O/S

Suprisingly good climbing, weaves about a bit but flows super nice. Lots of rests in between the hard moves

with Harriet Ridley
damob123 06/Apr/15 TR dnf
with Didrik Kristianson
danJBA 04/Apr/15 Lead dog
with Dan Brockwell
bede.west 08/Feb/15 Lead RP

Wooo! winter project sent! (and hardest send to date)

ptrickey ??/2015 Lead dog

The one that got away... again.

bede.west 20/Dec/14 Lead dog

Forgot some of the beta dropping second red point attempt just before crux, dogged to top. NEXT TIME!

bede.west 16/Nov/14 TR dog

2nd session. got all the moves and made big links getting on the lead next time. 3 stars!

Craigyboy13 26/Aug/14 TR dog
tommccluskey 07/Aug/14 Lead RP

Could miraculously reach about 2 inches further than the other day which helped a lot! Strange token palm at the 4th bolt also made everything work apparently?

Hidden 29/Jul/14 Lead dog
Kevster 27/Jun/14 Lead dog

Flashed it until the last bolt. A little beta goes a long way.

with Nibs
shed_hed 16/May/14 Lead dog

Without a warm up, putting clips in. Fell off on the last move with finger tips on the juggy arete after rushing it slightly and missing a better, higher crimp for left hand. Gutted but happy to have got so far!

tomwright1509 15/May/14 Lead dnf
Hidden 13/May/14 TR dnf
Ed morris 19/Apr/14 Lead RP

About 5th redpoint after spending an age working out the moves through the first roof. The sun didn't help.

with AndrewJamesCherry, stefan
dswansonlow 09/Apr/14 Lead dog
shed_hed 09/Apr/14 Lead RP

Got it first go today after putting the clips in. Well chuffed. Had proper disco leg for the rockover at the end!

Hidden ?/Apr/14 TR dnf
wi11 10/Mar/14 TR dnf

Went the wrong way...then tried the right way and found it hard

HAJ Francis ?/Mar/14 Lead RP
carbar64 27/Feb/14 Lead dnf
mileshill540 ??/2014 Lead
Ewan Russell 27/Oct/13 Lead RP

thought I was going to just put draws in. Managed to push through not been on it for two years. fun!

with gwen
ksjs 22/Sep/13 TR dog

Why did I bother: sore tips, rolling shoes and just tired. Felt hard, superb climbing though.

with owen
ianstevens 22/Sep/13 TR
ianstevens 16/Jul/13 TR dnf
UnkArl 06/Jun/13 TR dog
christoph owen 23/Apr/13 TR

with shunt

with top rope solo
Dan724 21/Feb/13 Lead RP

7b. good route

with BenRyle
BenRyle 27/Jan/13 Lead RP

Lovely moves, had to focus on every move til the lowers. Chuffed.

with Dan724
dswansonlow 11/Nov/12 Lead RP
shed_hed 11/Nov/12 TR dog

Better stickies didn't help much but have managed every move clean and strung most of them together now just can't do it consistently. Thinking that maybe I do need to get some new non-floppy shoes which have some actual edges for this hard slate stuff...every move is such a stretch though and I'm pulling really hard so they probably wouldn't help. Have told Dougie to remember the moves for me for when I forget them by next time!

dswansonlow 22/Oct/12 TR dog
shed_hed 22/Oct/12 TR dog

Start of a winter project...climbed well after sunset with a head torch as it was dry and warm. Managed majority of moves in isolation in indoor stickies. Must come back with better shoes!

Luke Brooks 02/Aug/12 Lead RP

Hard for shorties!

with Dave Evans
BenRyle 30/Jul/12 TR dog
Hidden 15/Jul/12 Lead
Michael Allday 26/May/12 Lead RP

onsight all the way then went up for the big jug at the top and foot slipped off so gutted just carelessness but an awsome route

zero six ?/May/12 Lead RP

Close to Beltane. Soft when done via the LH method - probably hard 7b. 7b+ the RH way.

Tom Livingstone 23/Feb/12 Lead dog

ahhhhhblueeuehghgffffffgggg!! so close!

with TRip
Hidden ??/2012 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2012 -
Tom Livingstone 02/Nov/11 Lead dog

Such a good route, very technical. Sequence dialled, will go next time!

with samrad
Hidden 26/Aug/11 TR dog
Hidden 23/Aug/11 Lead dog
barni 01/Aug/11 Lead RP
Liam FLeming 01/Aug/11 -
with barni
vertically_challenged 14/Jul/11 Lead RP

finally got it clean!! yes! the flake and the top rockover definetley the hardest moves.

Hidden 10/Jul/11 Lead dog
Hidden 12/Jun/11 TR dnf
willoates 28/May/11 Lead RP

fell on the easy move after the move left as i relaxed. fell again on the hard rock over at the top. next time its going down! Done - rock over move isnt even the right move! absolute SLAP for the top! just held it... first 7b... well psyched!

with Steve Parry, Dave Rudkin
Ally Smith 20/May/11 Lead RP

Retroflash; poorly dogged it 6mths ago

Lloyders 11/May/11 Lead RP
with Paddy
surfboybert 03/May/11 Lead dog

Will go back and will get it clean! wait for the finger tips to cool off, nice route.

Hidden 29/Apr/11 TR dog
vertically_challenged ?/Apr/11 Lead dog
wolf.leeb 28/Mar/11 Lead O/S


Hidden 01/Mar/11 2nd dog
Hidden ??/2011 -
Liam FLeming ??/2011 Lead RP
with barni
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
ksjs 27/Oct/10 Lead RP

done 2nd go - interesting last clip

with jo
ksjs 20/Oct/10 Lead dog

i take back my previous comments on the grade: the rests between each of the sections makes this feel more 7b than 7b+ but the moves left from the penultimate bolt felt especially tricky for the grade. 1st go: bolt to bolt, took small eternity to figure those moves left near end 2nd go: fingers greased at 2nd bolt due to drizzle 3rd go: fell on the traverse but went to top with a few rests/falls 4th go: much better, fingers just too painful to pull on the last moves but clean to penultimate bolt - bit of a tip shredder if you spend too long working this

with jo
samrad 08/Oct/10 Lead RP

tried it again and got it 1st go. the top part felt amazing as i had never been on the moves b4. was stoked when i clipped the lower off! f7b

samrad 07/Oct/10 Lead dnf

was good! went 4 the onsite! didn't get the crux.

with crad
GarethHall 01/Oct/10 Lead dnf

Hard - great climb though! Wanted to finish it, but then ripped my finger open on a sharp hold just below the last bolt...I'll be back :-)

with Teck
Ally Smith 30/Sep/10 TR dog
with Mr Shunt
Rob Grant 25/Sep/10 Lead
with Garan Comley
smallerrich 04/Sep/10 Lead RP

Retroflashed, went first go this session when I went to put the clips in : S

with Ollie Wragg
barni 25/Aug/10 TR dog
Hidden 15/Aug/10 TR dnf
Mike Goldthorp 20/Nov/09 Lead RP

i felt good and dynamic when i did it, awesome moves, really thin at the top!

Hidden 16/Oct/09 TR dnf
barni 13/Sep/09 Lead dog
barni 07/Sep/09 Lead dog

2 falls

ksjs 01/Aug/09 Lead dnf

nails! got on this thinking 7a+ and it really isnt. 7b+ minimum (you cant give it any less based on other slate grades). very good but very technical. lowered off at last bolt - had had enough by this stage, couldnt do the traverse left and gave up on final moves to belay. hopefully the aid, falls and exasperation will not be needed next time...

HeatherF 09/Jul/09 TR dog

Felt hard! Tiny holds and my hands are ripped to shreads!

with Mike H
string arms 29/May/09 Lead RP
with ILL-Jones
ian Ll-J 23/May/09 Lead RP
barni 24/Nov/08 TR dnf
with Jack
farmus21 02/Nov/08 2nd

S'well hard

with hamer89
lukea 26/Oct/08 Lead dog

clean through to the rockover- rockover bloody hard - 7b+ - may be alternate beta out left?

lukea 23/Aug/08 Lead dog
with Al
HeatherF 18/Aug/08 TR
with Franklin
C@rwyn 18/Aug/08 TR dnf

bloody hard!! Got just over half way up but couldn't work out any more moves :( also wasn't warmed up fully which didn't help. Definitely want to get it cracked though.

ksjs 06/Jun/08 Lead dnf

couldnt work out moves to undercut / upper flake.

Hidden ?/Apr/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 30/Sep/07 TR dnf
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