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Rockfax Description
A bold climb up the thin flakes and sinuous cracks. The hard lower section has no gear but a side-runner in Moon Walk drops the grade a notch. Higher up, small cams protect. © Rockfax

FA. Daniel Lee (with side-runners) 1981. Thomas de Gay (solo) 1999.

Ticklists

Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Peak Rock/16/Eighties Gritstone :The Shape of Things to Come, One Man and His Serotonin Levels

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Graham Hoey 12 Mar, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: Yes, I was aware of the comment in the supplement, but it was simply based on rumour, not evidence! The same rumour mill had Ron on-sighting Masters Edge and Ulysees! Although I was on the GB Committee at the time, the supplement was not widely circulated for comments. I only saw the comment re. Cool Moon when it was published. Its not a huge issue really, but having spent many 100's of hours researching first ascent details for the Peak Guides I am a bit of a pedent for things like this! All the best, Graham
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βeta: Yes, I was aware of the comment in the supplement, but it was simply based on rumour, not evidence! The same rumour mill had Ron on-sighting Masters Edge and Ulysees! Although I was on the GB Committee at the time, the supplement was not widely circulated for comments. I only saw the comment re. Cool Moon when it was published. Its not a huge issue really, but having spent many 100's of hours researching first ascent details for the Peak Guides I am a bit of a pedent for things like this! All the best, Graham
Graham Hoey 14 Jul, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Regarding bonjoy's point above. The size of cam required in the top break wasn't available in the year of the first ascent! Graham
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βeta: Regarding bonjoy's point above. The size of cam required in the top break wasn't available in the year of the first ascent! Graham
Adam Lincoln 10 Mar, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Not so sure Graham. I know Si Moore has fallen off this, as there is a mediocre cam in the break. This is most definatly on route. I used it on my ascent, but didnt think it would hold. So maybe Ron did do it, but with cams in break?
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βeta: Not so sure Graham. I know Si Moore has fallen off this, as there is a mediocre cam in the break. This is most definatly on route. I used it on my ascent, but didnt think it would hold. So maybe Ron did do it, but with cams in break?
Graham Hoey 9 Mar, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Not true I believe. Ron reported his own ascent in a short-lived climbing newspaper where he described taking ground sweeping falls (only possible with the side-runners - without he'd have decked out).
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βeta: Not true I believe. Ron reported his own ascent in a short-lived climbing newspaper where he described taking ground sweeping falls (only possible with the side-runners - without he'd have decked out).
Boy 27 Oct, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Big Ron climbed it without the side runners the same year as the first ascent according to one of the old peak supplements (the one with The Prow on the cover).
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βeta: Big Ron climbed it without the side runners the same year as the first ascent according to one of the old peak supplements (the one with The Prow on the cover).

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