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With time on my hands and wet weather outside I've decided to get to grips with Lightroom, set up a new catalog etc and organise all my photos on backed up drives etc.  I have Lightroom 6 ( with ACR9.0) and a good Martin Evening instruction book to go with it.  I decided (maybe against my better judgement) to get up to date and fork out for the latest subscription version which seems to be LR 7.0 with ACR 16.3). 

I'm totally befuddled.  LR 7.0 doesn't even recognise "catalog" in the help section.  Adobe Creative Cloud shows both my versions of LR with the LR6.0 identified as LR Classic.  I was getting used to the old LR6.0 interface of Library, import, develop, export etc but the new LR seems to have none of this.  Unfortunately LR6 with ACR 9.0 doesn't recognise ORF RAW files from my new OM-1 camera so I'm stuffed.  The help files with LR 7.0 are all about editing but there doesn't seem to be any help on whatever replaced the catalog system, backups, etc.

Can anyone offer words of comfort and ideally a link to useful help, or ideally a book to help me ?

I'm not at all interested in suggestions of an alternative to LR that may be better / cheaper etc etc.

Many thanks

I would guess you're in the same boat as this:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/transfer-from-lightroom-6-...

LR 6 - now "Lightroom Classic" i.e. desktop version, LR7 "Lightroom" is the cloud-based version.



 

I stuck with LR 6 when they switched to the annual subscription model but a quick Google suggests the latest version is LR 13.x, not LR 7.0. Maybe your issue is connected to that?

I’m running the latest Lightroom 7.3 and it still works when disconnected from the web so definitely not cloud based. I have separate access to “Lightroom for web” on my Creative Cloud Desktop which I have tried but not the same as Lightroom (showing as rev 7.3)

You need the 'Photography (20GB)' Plan not the 'Lightroom (1TB)' Plan.

Both plans are £9.98 / month 

This gives you 'Lightroom Classic' = Lightroom-on-Desktop, with photos stored on your PC, not in the cloud.

The new 'Lightroom' is cloud based.

https://www.adobe.com/uk/products/photoshop-lightroom/compare-plans.html

Brilliant! That was my problem. I didn’t understand the difference when I subscribed a few months ago. I’ve now changed my plan (refund on remaining) and waiting for the latest Classic to install. Many thanks Chris

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@kevinstephens: how did it all go OK - all up and running in new LR-Classic?

You might want to consider updating key images/folders in your LR CatLog processed under the older LR, into the current 'Calibration: Process: V6 (current)' (in the Develop Module).

This can be done simply in batch from the Library Module by creating a Pre-set just with the calibration box ticked (using an image with current V6 process), then bulk selecting images and using QuickDevelop top right with a 'Saved Pre-set' (in Library Module).

All new images imported will be V6 Process (unless you tell it otehrwise via an import preset).

... I think, from memory (cant quite remember), if you don't, then not all new LR feature will be available for older 'Process' version Images (I may be wrong on that) ...

The install worked well. I had only really dabbled in Lightroom 6 with photos spread randomly about my laptop’s SSDD. So I’m starting afresh ditching the old catalog and use the new install to import and move all the old photos to a pair of duplicated external drives. I’ll investigate using your tips to simplify this process

I played around with LR and then settled on an alternative. The whole catalog thing seemed utterly baffling on both and I gave up pretty quickly. Now I simply file my photos and back them up the way I want them and was used to; I just import the RAW files, process them and then export them along with any RAW files I want to keep. I don't see any point in unnecessary stress!

I do this also, but still use LR cataloguing, for ease of access/edit/export and simply finding the bloody photos amongst all the dross I seem to hang on to via the hierarchical keywording facilities. It's a pretty straightforward process. 

I think that Lightroom's cataloguing/file management features are one of its greatest strengths, as long as one starts off well.

Lightroom pointed out that the onboard graphics in my Dell XPS13 may not be up to scratch so I opened the Dell software to check for and install updates.

Now it’s a brick.

Dell customer support tells me that because the laptop is ancient (2016) and originally built with Windows 8 (now on 10) it will stay bricked. The on board recovery tools don’t work. I may seek out a local technician to see if it can be fixed, or at least if my files can be recovered. If I have to get a new laptop hopefully my brand new Adobe subscription can still be used to install LR?

My 2014 Dell laptop started life with either Windows 7 or Windows 8 (can’t remember), is now on 10, and has occasionally been close to death, often because of windows updates or driver updates, but I’ve always managed to bring it back to life. The Windows repair USB stick often does the trick. I tend to stick with the drivers that work nowadays, even if Dell wants me to update them. I expect a good techie will be able to sort it out for you. 

So sorry to hear that.

I wouldn't believe Dell though - get a local shop to sort.

My 2012 i7 3930 six core PC is still going well on Windows 10 (with one new SSD and an updated graphics card).  Win-10 going unsupported next year, so may have to get a new PC.

 You'll be fine on this point. You can have two devices using LR classic/desktop and can manage this through your account on the website.

Hope you get your laptop debricked!

Thanks All

From discussions with my local computer tech it seems that my laptop my not be salvageable, certainly not in as the stable and capable machine that it was; The Dell utilities designed specifically for Windows 8 would have messed with Window 10 in ways nobody can really understand, and I didn't want to go back to a fresh install. However he should be able to extract my previous files etc for me.

I decided to treat myself with a new Acer laptop with i7 processor, 16 GB RAM separate graphics card, 1 TB SSD and also a separate large 4k monitor etc.  Hopefully this lot will see me out for all my photo and video stuff.

In getting to grips with the latest LR classic I'm using my Martin Evening's book for LR 6.  Apart from newer bells and whistles will this book still be accurate enough to work through the various modules, particularly library and catalog etc?  Or has so much changed to make this a bad idea?  Many thanks 

Thanks All

From discussions with my local computer tech it seems that my laptop my not be salvageable, certainly not in as the stable and capable machine that it was; The Dell utilities designed specifically for Windows 8 would have messed with Window 10 in ways nobody can really understand, and I didn't want to go back to a fresh install. However he should be able to extract my previous files etc for me.

I decided to treat myself with a new Acer laptop with i7 processor, 16 GB RAM separate graphics card, 1 TB SSD and also a separate large 4k monitor etc.  Hopefully this lot will see me out for all my photo and video stuff.

In getting to grips with the latest LR classic I'm using my Martin Evening's book for LR 6.  Apart from newer bells and whistles will this book still be accurate enough to work through the various modules, particularly library and catalog etc?  Or has so much changed to make this a bad idea?  Many thanks