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Any science or psychology behind it? Is it just used to draw attention to themselves?
In reply to Wrongfoot:
You never seen it in climbing videos?
You never seen it in climbing videos?
In reply to james oswald:
Hi James,
Some climbers power scream, some don't. It isn't all climbers as your thread title suggests.
Power screaming can be extremely useful on moves that require your full extension as the exhilation of air from your body makes you taller.
Quite simple really.
Try it down your local climbing wall, and it helps if you take you shirt off and do the moves bareback when you scream.
Good luck.
Mick
> Any science or psychology behind it? Is it just used to draw attention to themselves?
Hi James,
Some climbers power scream, some don't. It isn't all climbers as your thread title suggests.
Power screaming can be extremely useful on moves that require your full extension as the exhilation of air from your body makes you taller.
Quite simple really.
Try it down your local climbing wall, and it helps if you take you shirt off and do the moves bareback when you scream.
Good luck.
Mick
In reply to Wrongfoot: Sharma...
In reply to Wrongfoot: Did you mean 'know' as in 'know of' or as in 'know personally'?
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
That's all I need now, a bunch of climbers breaking the peaceful atmosphere with screams of extacy while they lunge for a hold. I thought I'd left all that behind when I gave up martial arts.
Please, please, please could we knock this craze on the head before it becomes a fashionable craze?
Better still why not include some poff in the equation?
> Try it down your local climbing wall, and it helps if you take you shirt off and do the moves bareback when you scream.
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> Good luck.
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> Mick
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> Good luck.
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> Mick
That's all I need now, a bunch of climbers breaking the peaceful atmosphere with screams of extacy while they lunge for a hold. I thought I'd left all that behind when I gave up martial arts.
Please, please, please could we knock this craze on the head before it becomes a fashionable craze?
Better still why not include some poff in the equation?
In reply to james oswald:
I've got a better question for you:
Why do people use abhorrent words like "powerscream"?
I've got a better question for you:
Why do people use abhorrent words like "powerscream"?
yep. there is physiological reasons for doing it. which is exactly why it's taught in martial arts. i didn't used to do it until i started doing a style of aikido that trains kiais. still don't do it much but sometimes one slips out. think mine is more of poweryelp though.
In reply to james oswald:
I occasionally let out a big grunt, when I go for and get a hard move.
The exhalation will change - very marginally, I admit - your reach, if it is at full stretch, because it changes your rib-cage from being wide and fat to long and thin.
Actually, I wonder?
We can test this, by doing a simple test to see whether you can reach higher with your left foot (for example) flat on the ground, and your right hand at full stretch - with your lungs full to busting, and whether your reach is longer with your lungs emptied.
I occasionally let out a big grunt, when I go for and get a hard move.
The exhalation will change - very marginally, I admit - your reach, if it is at full stretch, because it changes your rib-cage from being wide and fat to long and thin.
Actually, I wonder?
We can test this, by doing a simple test to see whether you can reach higher with your left foot (for example) flat on the ground, and your right hand at full stretch - with your lungs full to busting, and whether your reach is longer with your lungs emptied.
In reply to james oswald:
the bit that helps is the exhalation of air not the actual noise but if making a scene helps them why not eh.
the bit that helps is the exhalation of air not the actual noise but if making a scene helps them why not eh.
In reply to victim of mathematics:
It helps to label things.
You have an alternative suggestion?
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> I've got a better question for you:
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> Why do people use abhorrent words like "powerscream"?
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> I've got a better question for you:
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> Why do people use abhorrent words like "powerscream"?
It helps to label things.
You have an alternative suggestion?
In reply to james oswald:
Sometimes I break wind during a crux move. I suspect the dynamics are different though.
Sometimes I break wind during a crux move. I suspect the dynamics are different though.
In reply to Humpty Dangler:
Depends if you light it or not...
Although, if you scream after lighting your farts, i'm not sure it'd be referred to as a "powerscream", but more of a girly cry for help, because MY *SS IS ON FIRE!!
Depends if you light it or not...
Although, if you scream after lighting your farts, i'm not sure it'd be referred to as a "powerscream", but more of a girly cry for help, because MY *SS IS ON FIRE!!
In reply to james oswald: Any science or psychology behind it?
Dave Mac has referred to studies that demonstrate that shouting at someone while they are pulling weights enables them to pull bigger weights.
Who cares if it is science or psychology - it works
Dave Mac has referred to studies that demonstrate that shouting at someone while they are pulling weights enables them to pull bigger weights.
Who cares if it is science or psychology - it works
In reply to last ascent: think mine is more of poweryelp though.
The variance is intersting as it reflects the personality.
The variance is intersting as it reflects the personality.
In reply to Humpty Dangler: Sometimes I break wind during a crux move. I suspect the dynamics are different though.
You have engaged your core I think they say in - what is it again? - quick google - pilates
You have engaged your core I think they say in - what is it again? - quick google - pilates
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
That's as maybe, but 'powerscream' sounds like some horrible Americanised management jargon nonsense
How about Jugreachenablingmegaexhalation? Jreme for short?
That's as maybe, but 'powerscream' sounds like some horrible Americanised management jargon nonsense
How about Jugreachenablingmegaexhalation? Jreme for short?
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
Mick, while the removal of the shirt is an important factor, you cannot forget that 90% of power is lost through the head. You've gotta have that beanie, guys.
> Try it down your local climbing wall, and it helps if you take you shirt off and do the moves bareback when you scream.
Mick, while the removal of the shirt is an important factor, you cannot forget that 90% of power is lost through the head. You've gotta have that beanie, guys.
In reply to victim of mathematics:
The scream gives you more power. Powerscream sounds OK to me even though 'send' still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. 'Bon effort' even more so.
The scream gives you more power. Powerscream sounds OK to me even though 'send' still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. 'Bon effort' even more so.
In reply to james oswald:
Personally, I prefer to powergibber... In the Swiss Alps, climbers poweryodel.
Personally, I prefer to powergibber... In the Swiss Alps, climbers poweryodel.
In reply to james oswald:
I do these powerscreams, if i am on a particulary hard route for myself, it gives me a sorta power boost, adrenaline rush for a particulary cruxie move.
Well for me anyway...
I do these powerscreams, if i am on a particulary hard route for myself, it gives me a sorta power boost, adrenaline rush for a particulary cruxie move.
Well for me anyway...
In reply to james oswald: if you want some power screaming, search dreamcatcher in youtube. Also i have been told before that power screaming does help you get through hard moves moves (?) sometimes i find myself power screaming..mostly on long sustained climbing, it seems to help push through. But on delicate stuff i will probably not powerscream lol. So for me sometimes it helps.
In reply to james oswald: I'd never even heard the term 'powerscream' before! But I do tend to make a aarrrrrrrrgggghhhhhh kind of noise if I'm going for a move I find hard. I don't do it consciously, it just slips out. Quite interesting to hear about this reach thing though, wonder if that's why I do it cos I'm a short ass and sometimes struggle with reach, but I don't tend to make the noise if I'm doing a reachy move, it's more if I'm doing a strenuous move.
In reply to james oswald: Sometimes when tentatively groping towards a distant hold, while in a position I'm unable to reverse, arms feeling like jelly, with an unpleasant fall looming, I emit a nopowerwhimper.
In reply to Simon Lee:
psychology is science !
> (In reply to james oswald) Any science or psychology behind it?
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> Who cares if it is science or psychology - it works
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> Who cares if it is science or psychology - it works
psychology is science !
In reply to lithos: Yeah right.
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
In Lynn Hill's book she mensions how she found taking a deep breath ment she could reach up a little bit higher. Though i appreciate your tounge is in your cheek.
Cheers
Tim
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> Hi James,
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> Some climbers power scream, some don't. It isn't all climbers as your thread title suggests.
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> Power screaming can be extremely useful on moves that require your full extension as the exhilation of air from your body makes you taller.
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> Quite simple really.
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> Try it down your local climbing wall, and it helps if you take you shirt off and do the moves bareback when you scream.
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> Good luck.
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> Mick
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> Hi James,
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> Some climbers power scream, some don't. It isn't all climbers as your thread title suggests.
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> Power screaming can be extremely useful on moves that require your full extension as the exhilation of air from your body makes you taller.
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> Quite simple really.
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> Try it down your local climbing wall, and it helps if you take you shirt off and do the moves bareback when you scream.
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> Good luck.
>
> Mick
In Lynn Hill's book she mensions how she found taking a deep breath ment she could reach up a little bit higher. Though i appreciate your tounge is in your cheek.
Cheers
Tim
In reply to Timmd:Mentions.
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
nope, hasn't made me any taller Mick, i'm still laid on the sofa...
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> Power screaming can be extremely useful on moves that require your full extension as the exhilation of air from your body makes you taller.
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nope, hasn't made me any taller Mick, i'm still laid on the sofa...
In reply to james oswald:
It's theatre (in the broad sense of knowing people are watching you).
Gives a public form to an individual experience. Raises the complex issue of the grey line of where the individual ends and society begins. The strange truth that doing the same thing alone or with others watching is in fact a "different" experience.
Similar to the reason they encourage footballers to symbollically copulate when they score - in football the homoerotic component is more significant.
I noticed in Dave Mac.'s (no personal criticism intended, just inevitability) new video trailer he screams a lot "giving form" to his huge efforts, his suffering creating a "sign" for hardness. Often this is encouraged by video makers by showing approval when screams, or simply editing in all the screamy bits and cutting the long mute sequences.
Porn is another example - the need to articulate with vocal expressions and the same tendency to exagerate.
In the end it wears out, folk become enured. Art is based on narrative. Screaming and rolling around means nothing in the end.
> Any science or psychology behind it? Is it just used to draw attention to themselves?
It's theatre (in the broad sense of knowing people are watching you).
Gives a public form to an individual experience. Raises the complex issue of the grey line of where the individual ends and society begins. The strange truth that doing the same thing alone or with others watching is in fact a "different" experience.
Similar to the reason they encourage footballers to symbollically copulate when they score - in football the homoerotic component is more significant.
I noticed in Dave Mac.'s (no personal criticism intended, just inevitability) new video trailer he screams a lot "giving form" to his huge efforts, his suffering creating a "sign" for hardness. Often this is encouraged by video makers by showing approval when screams, or simply editing in all the screamy bits and cutting the long mute sequences.
Porn is another example - the need to articulate with vocal expressions and the same tendency to exagerate.
In the end it wears out, folk become enured. Art is based on narrative. Screaming and rolling around means nothing in the end.
In reply to Gavin Taylor:
And that is why I'd like these primadonnas to stay out of my local climbing wall.
I don't mind the odd grunt through frustration but to hear ecstatic screams every other second would really get on nerves.
> In the end it wears out, folk become enured. Art is based on narrative. Screaming and rolling around means nothing in the end.
And that is why I'd like these primadonnas to stay out of my local climbing wall.
I don't mind the odd grunt through frustration but to hear ecstatic screams every other second would really get on nerves.
In reply to james oswald: Powerscream? lol iv never heard this word before! i shall work it in to everyday conversations from now on though
In reply to The Lemming:
it does make it sound like someones sitting in the corner of the wall watching low budget porn....
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> And that is why I'd like these primadonnas to stay out of my local climbing wall.
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> I don't mind the odd grunt through frustration but to hear ecstatic screams every other second would really get on nerves.
it does make it sound like someones sitting in the corner of the wall watching low budget porn....
In reply to lithos:
Social science!
Social science!
In reply to james oswald: I haven't read the whole thread so somebody may have already said this, but its a common technique among power/weight lifters too, I think it must just help with the moment of most extreme effort?
In reply to james oswald:
Dony no about powerscreams, but i've heard plenty of 'fake orgasams' recently on sport routes both indoor and outdoors, is this a new trend??
Dony no about powerscreams, but i've heard plenty of 'fake orgasams' recently on sport routes both indoor and outdoors, is this a new trend??
In reply to dirtbag1:
Go on then ...save me from ignorance.
> (In reply to Gavin Taylor)
> Are you joking?
> Do you really have so little clue about this subject?
> Are you joking?
> Do you really have so little clue about this subject?
Go on then ...save me from ignorance.
In reply to The Lemming: Me thinks you exaggerate (who's being a drama queen now?) I've never heard anyone, outdoors or indoors making 'ecstatic screams every other second.'
In reply to lasonj:
I do frequently, just not when I'm climbing..
(Ha, that will teach Panda to leave herself logged on to my computer!)
> I've never heard anyone, outdoors or indoors making 'ecstatic screams every other second.'
I do frequently, just not when I'm climbing..
(Ha, that will teach Panda to leave herself logged on to my computer!)
In reply to james oswald:
You'll find its mostly tw*tty American climbers who scream. Normally they just can't help it when there's a camera rolling and one of their buddies is constanty shouting out "C'mon dude send it!"
Try finding an American Bouldering clip on youtube without either things happening and you win a box of 'celebrations'.
PS the clip will also have some cringey post production stuff and WILL always have a 5-10 second montage of people failing to do the crux whuch is to emphasise the difficulty of the problem
You'll find its mostly tw*tty American climbers who scream. Normally they just can't help it when there's a camera rolling and one of their buddies is constanty shouting out "C'mon dude send it!"
Try finding an American Bouldering clip on youtube without either things happening and you win a box of 'celebrations'.
PS the clip will also have some cringey post production stuff and WILL always have a 5-10 second montage of people failing to do the crux whuch is to emphasise the difficulty of the problem
In reply to james oswald:
This has infiltrated from martial arts hasn’t it? As well as being breathing (out) muscles, the diaphragm and the deeper abdominal muscles are trunk stabilising muscles, so breathing out forcefully might help stabilise the trunk. Weight-trainers advocate breathing out during the harder phase of the lift (usually the lower), possibly for this reason. Shouting and screaming involves the diaphragm and abdominal muscles too and it would be mildly interesting to know if shouting makes the deeper abdominals work any harder than just breathing out forcefully. A possible MSc research project for someone.
It is currently fashionable to suggest a strong trunk benefits climbing as it gives a steady base from which the major limb muscles can work more effectively. It’s an attractive idea but with little direct evidence to support it at present.
Fine sociological analysis from Gavin, we just need a psychologist to chip-in with the effects of shouting at yourself…
This has infiltrated from martial arts hasn’t it? As well as being breathing (out) muscles, the diaphragm and the deeper abdominal muscles are trunk stabilising muscles, so breathing out forcefully might help stabilise the trunk. Weight-trainers advocate breathing out during the harder phase of the lift (usually the lower), possibly for this reason. Shouting and screaming involves the diaphragm and abdominal muscles too and it would be mildly interesting to know if shouting makes the deeper abdominals work any harder than just breathing out forcefully. A possible MSc research project for someone.
It is currently fashionable to suggest a strong trunk benefits climbing as it gives a steady base from which the major limb muscles can work more effectively. It’s an attractive idea but with little direct evidence to support it at present.
Fine sociological analysis from Gavin, we just need a psychologist to chip-in with the effects of shouting at yourself…
In reply to Panda:
Interesting.
So is her title for this photo really a coded message?
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=42202
> (In reply to lasonj)
> I do frequently, just not when I'm climbing..
> (Ha, that will teach Panda to leave herself logged on to my computer!)
> (Ha, that will teach Panda to leave herself logged on to my computer!)
Interesting.
So is her title for this photo really a coded message?
http://www.ukclimbing.com/images/dbpage.php?id=42202
In reply to zorro:
^ funny because it's true.
^ funny because it's true.
In reply to duncan:
Core strength? Little direct evidence? Are you sure? I think gymnasts and their trainers/coaches might disagree that there is no direct evidence!
Would love to know more.
Mick
> (In reply to james oswald)
> It is currently fashionable to suggest a strong trunk benefits climbing as it gives a steady base from which the major limb muscles can work more effectively. It’s an attractive idea but with little direct evidence to support it at present.
Core strength? Little direct evidence? Are you sure? I think gymnasts and their trainers/coaches might disagree that there is no direct evidence!
Would love to know more.
Mick
In reply to james oswald: it's very weird when it happens at the wall! Everyone tries very hard to pretend they didn't hear it and they all start looking at the floor. Is it just attention seeking behaviour?
In reply to Anita Grey: I bet Dougal Haston, Joe Brown etc didn't powerscream. Sounds like it's just a new thing for the tops off beanie wearing brigade.
In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com:
I have some interest in this, I invited a Pilates teacher into our hospital in 1993 and started my own research into core stability in 1996. There are certainly a lot of articles published which all say something like 'it seems like a logical idea and my patients/athletes do well if they do these exercises'. Which doesn't tell us much, frankly.
What I meant was that there have been very few comparisons of doing 'core' stability exercises with doing nothing or another kind of exercise. Their results nearly always suggest core stability training is better than doing nothing but has no greater effect than other kinds of exercises, for both athletic performance or spinal pain.
Some examples:
Core stability training for athletic performance:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18208424?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSy...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15320664?ordinalpos=15&itool=EntrezS...
Core stability training for injury prevention:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18208428?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSy...
Core (Spinal) stability training for back pain:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17572614?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSy...
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/biohealth/research/applied/laysummary.html
I have some interest in this, I invited a Pilates teacher into our hospital in 1993 and started my own research into core stability in 1996. There are certainly a lot of articles published which all say something like 'it seems like a logical idea and my patients/athletes do well if they do these exercises'. Which doesn't tell us much, frankly.
What I meant was that there have been very few comparisons of doing 'core' stability exercises with doing nothing or another kind of exercise. Their results nearly always suggest core stability training is better than doing nothing but has no greater effect than other kinds of exercises, for both athletic performance or spinal pain.
Some examples:
Core stability training for athletic performance:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18208424?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSy...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15320664?ordinalpos=15&itool=EntrezS...
Core stability training for injury prevention:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18208428?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSy...
Core (Spinal) stability training for back pain:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17572614?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSy...
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/biohealth/research/applied/laysummary.html
In reply to james oswald: I've been known to do it more as a grunt, accidentally because I was holding my breath and couldn't stop myself.
In reply to lithos:
Haha
Haha
In reply to james oswald:
I hate to admit it but I did a 'powerscream' twice in the last 24 hours.
Once last night whilst free running....... I frucked up on a wall jump but landed safely.
And this afternoon whilst mountain biking.
I hate to admit it but I did a 'powerscream' twice in the last 24 hours.
Once last night whilst free running....... I frucked up on a wall jump but landed safely.
And this afternoon whilst mountain biking.
In reply to duncan:
trunk stability or strength means you can free up limbs for movement to keep you in a given position. e.g. If you can lock your trunk out to keep a lower foot on this can be the difference between you being able to get the other foot on a hold. With this kind of strength the body tends more towards a system of 'rigid bodies' rather than a big sloppy bag of flesh which is easier to co-ordinate too with more versatility in what shapes you can effectively arrange the skeleton into*. What's easier to lift of the floor a heavy weight in a box or the same weight in sand in a loose bag? The idea that trunk stability/strength aids mobility/athletic performance would be imo fairly axiomatic.
If rigidity isn't useful why did bones evolve anyway?
trunk stability or strength means you can free up limbs for movement to keep you in a given position. e.g. If you can lock your trunk out to keep a lower foot on this can be the difference between you being able to get the other foot on a hold. With this kind of strength the body tends more towards a system of 'rigid bodies' rather than a big sloppy bag of flesh which is easier to co-ordinate too with more versatility in what shapes you can effectively arrange the skeleton into*. What's easier to lift of the floor a heavy weight in a box or the same weight in sand in a loose bag? The idea that trunk stability/strength aids mobility/athletic performance would be imo fairly axiomatic.
If rigidity isn't useful why did bones evolve anyway?
In reply to Gavin Taylor:
Loving your work.
Actually I think you're right as well, for every 1 climber who is trying to improve performance with a further contraction of the abdominals and movement of the diaphragm <sp?> there are probably 99 others who sieze on the excuse to play up the drama and "share" their experience with everyone in earshot. Whether they want to be included or not!
If it's about exhalation improving performance then just forcibly exhale folks, don't scream!
Bloody premadonnas!
> It's theatre ... Screaming and rolling around means nothing in the end.
Loving your work.
Actually I think you're right as well, for every 1 climber who is trying to improve performance with a further contraction of the abdominals and movement of the diaphragm <sp?> there are probably 99 others who sieze on the excuse to play up the drama and "share" their experience with everyone in earshot. Whether they want to be included or not!
If it's about exhalation improving performance then just forcibly exhale folks, don't scream!
Bloody premadonnas!
In reply to neilinut:
Really bad example, it depends on the shape and size of the box. a £20kg TV is a bugger to carry a long way a 20kg sandbag is easier. As I found out last week.
Why haven't they all fused?
I probably agree but your examples are bobbins!
> What's easier to lift of the floor a heavy weight in a box or the same weight in sand in a loose bag?
Really bad example, it depends on the shape and size of the box. a £20kg TV is a bugger to carry a long way a 20kg sandbag is easier. As I found out last week.
> If rigidity isn't useful why did bones evolve anyway?
Why haven't they all fused?
> The idea that trunk stability/strength aids mobility/athletic performance would be imo fairly axiomatic.
I probably agree but your examples are bobbins!
In reply to duncan:
Maybe for trad shuffling but not steep limestone ! At a simple level how else would your toes maintain contact with the rock ? The problem might be specificity. I suspect that there is core strength that can be built up and that isnt esoecially useful for climbing and core strength that is. Maybe the core exercises employed in the studies arent that applicable to building up the useful-for-climbing-type-core-strength in the way regular steep bouldering would. Just conjecture.
Maybe for trad shuffling but not steep limestone ! At a simple level how else would your toes maintain contact with the rock ? The problem might be specificity. I suspect that there is core strength that can be built up and that isnt esoecially useful for climbing and core strength that is. Maybe the core exercises employed in the studies arent that applicable to building up the useful-for-climbing-type-core-strength in the way regular steep bouldering would. Just conjecture.
In reply to Al Urker:
Now, you've just opened a whole new can of worms with that comment.
You could develope a whole vocal range for all the different styles of moves.
Failing that why not belt out a power ballad while climbing a 7b+?
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> you have to make the right noise for the right move
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> you have to make the right noise for the right move
Now, you've just opened a whole new can of worms with that comment.
You could develope a whole vocal range for all the different styles of moves.
Failing that why not belt out a power ballad while climbing a 7b+?
In reply to james oswald:
I power grunt, and it is not done with any forethought, it just kinda comes out....only when I am going for a hold which is just out of my reach and I have to leap for it. On seeing the other threads it is believable that it empties the lungs thus promoting fuller extension...it is probably also a psychological trick which helps your mind overcome the fact that you are about to take a risky move....
I power grunt, and it is not done with any forethought, it just kinda comes out....only when I am going for a hold which is just out of my reach and I have to leap for it. On seeing the other threads it is believable that it empties the lungs thus promoting fuller extension...it is probably also a psychological trick which helps your mind overcome the fact that you are about to take a risky move....
In reply to Al Urker: I heard one guy do an arpeggio of screams
In reply to james oswald: i sometimes powerscream when doing high impact moves really close to my limit, on holds that are really hard to hold, eg big overhanging deadpoints to rubbish crimps, as its easier than trying to hold it in, however as i work a move or sequence the screaming goes away as the move gets reduced to the minimum amount of effort required to make it.
In reply to @ndyM@rsh@ll: Usually overhanging, something to do with body tension too i guess, all the core muscles of your front and back exploding into action all at once has to force some air out.
In reply to james oswald: We'll it seems to work.!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dynYE5bESpM&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dynYE5bESpM&feature=related
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