In reply to cham749:
> (In reply to Alasdair Fulton) Right, I've investigated further, after advice received here, and have now come down to two options:
I've got both jckets and have used them both extensivley. They are both pretty similar and you can't go wrong with either really. Bellow I've listed some of each jackets positives and negitives - but really I'm splitting hairs.
> Patagonia DAS Parka £200
Better and more protective hood.
More stylish
Elasticated cuffs
The warmer of the two, but only just
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> PHD Zeta Belay Jacket £185
More weather resistant
Removable hood - PHD will sew one on for you though.
"Hardcore" rufty tufty design - reflective piping - belay clip loop ecetera.
Big sleeves and velcro cuffs so easier to put on over big gloves than the DAS.
British made
The pockets are, near enough, in the same place on both jackets.
I'd go for the PHD, as it is British made, cheaper and much more weather resistant.
If you want anymore info email me.
HTH