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NEWS: McHaffie Repeats Long Hope Main Pitch

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 UKC News 11 Sep 2012
James McHaffie in Margalef, Spain, 4 kbJames McHaffie has made a lightening fast repeat of the crux pitch of The Long Hope Route, Hoy, Scotland.

James climbed the headwall pitch after abseiling in to check it out. He successfully climbed it on his third lead attempt...

Read more at http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67427

 Cuthbert 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News:

When's he doing the rest of the route?
 Tyler 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Saor Alba:

Read to the bottom of the article
 willoates 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News: Nice one Caff!
 James Oswald 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News:

Amazing effort, well done to him!
 Cuthbert 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Tyler:

Thanks, I didn't see that. It would be good to get an article once he has completed the route.
 TobyA 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News: Fantastic effort, but was he just passing by? Just interested as this seems a little unlikely, but then making the huge effort to get all the way up there to try the route but not having time to try the whole route also seems odd?!

Anyway - well done Caff and good luck with the weather gods to try the whole thing in the spring.
Removed User 11 Sep 2012
In reply to TobyA: But to get to the top pitch you can abb in so it's fairly easy to work? Maybe he thought he wasn't going to go so easily?
 Tom Last 11 Sep 2012
In reply to TobyA:
> (In reply to UKC News) Fantastic effort, but was he just passing by? Just interested as this seems a little unlikely,

Yes, seems odd, Hoy isn't really on the way to anywhere is it!
 Ramblin dave 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Southern Man:
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> Yes, seems odd, Hoy isn't really on the way to anywhere is it!

Maybe we haven't heard about his mega project on Shetland!

Top effort, anyway. What a beast!
 TobyA 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Ramblin dave:

> Maybe we haven't heard about his mega project on Shetland!

Or the Faeroes?!

 The Pylon King 11 Sep 2012
In reply to TobyA:
> (In reply to UKC News) Fantastic effort, but was he just passing by? Just interested as this seems a little unlikely, but then making the huge effort to get all the way up there to try the route but not having time to try the whole route also seems odd?!


maybe because the top pitch is the "challenging" pitch?
 franksnb 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Pylon King Liberation Front: its more of a challenge if you do the previous pitches. anyhow well done to him, I wish I was strong enough to try such an awesome route.
 Tom Last 11 Sep 2012
In reply to TobyA:
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> Or the Faeroes?!

Or Foula?

Anyone for the super-steep bit of Nebbifield?

http://www.powell-pressburger.org/Reviews/37_Edge/FoulaHigh/FoulaHigh02.jpg
 Adam Long 11 Sep 2012
In reply to TobyA:

I'm guessing when he says 'didn't have time' he means 'didn't have time to wait for suitable weather'. Caff and Dan both have dayjobs to get back to, they're not fulltime climbers by any means.
 TobyA 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Adam Long: Which makes it even more impressive. Hope they get another chance with good weather.
 Fraser 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News:

Nice one, (but I think Andy Turner should have also got a mention in the article.)
 royal 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News:
Awesome effort. I wonder what the fall was like, I guess there was some decent protection? Some bits looked hideously run out on sandy protection in Dave McLeods video.
 edinburgh_man 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Fraser:

Why?

This was an article about Caff repeating the crux top pitch of LHR. Andy T didn't climb this pitch - he jugged up it on a static rope after Dave Macleod had abbed down and cleaned the line following his own lead.

Not sure it's that relevant to this specific article.
 truckmonkey 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News:

Fine effort especially with the weather we had on Hoy. Hope we didn't disturb you too much on our return to the bothy early this morning
 andi turner 11 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News: Whoa, that's bloody impressive! Climbing 7a on a boulder problem 3rd go is good going let alone at the top of some tottering sea cliff!
 jack_eadie 11 Sep 2012
In reply to Southern Man:

What a cliff! I've heard of that before but thats the first pic i've seen, it's fantastic! have you any other pics/information on it?
 Morgan Woods 12 Sep 2012
In reply to jack_eadie: It's in the related section.
 Mark Bull 12 Sep 2012
In reply to jack_eadie:

There are two recorded routes in the SMC Northern Highlands North guidebook (an E2 and an E4) which take lines up the highest section of the cliff (not in that photo). There's an entertaining description of the E4 here: http://daveeabrown.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/nebbifield-nose-foula.html
 Fraser 12 Sep 2012
In reply to rosmat:
> (In reply to Fraser)
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> Why?
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> This was an article about Caff repeating the crux top pitch of LHR. Andy T didn't climb this pitch - he jugged up it on a static rope after Dave Macleod had abbed down and cleaned the line following his own lead.

I didn't realise that, so it's a fair point - thanks for clarifying. However, notwithstanding that, I always believe it takes two to make a successful ascent....unless you're Alex Honnold! (plus, the route is the full route, not just the final crux pitch, so AT contributed to the 'tick'.)
 Tom Last 12 Sep 2012
In reply to jack_eadie:
> (In reply to Southern Man)
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> What a cliff! I've heard of that before but thats the first pic i've seen, it's fantastic! have you any other pics/information on it?

Never been there. As Mark Bull says there's a couple of Dave Turnbull routes (I think) that look a bit mental nearby. Don't think there's anything on this.

After you...
 Chris Craggs Global Crag Moderator 12 Sep 2012
In reply to jack_eadie:

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> What a cliff! I've heard of that before but thats the first pic i've seen, it's fantastic! have you any other pics/information on it?

Where have you been the past couple of years?

http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=62956

http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=4253

http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=62760

http://www.ukclimbing.com/videos/play.php?i=842


Chris
 Tyler 12 Sep 2012
In reply to Chris Craggs:

I thought he was asking about Foula? If so there was thhis thread a while back:

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=317692
 Chris Craggs Global Crag Moderator 12 Sep 2012
In reply to Tyler:
> (In reply to Chris Craggs)
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> I thought he was asking about Foula? If so there was thhis thread a while back:
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> http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=317692

Oooops, re-reading it I think you are right. I must admit I was a bit surprised that he hadn't heard of the No Hope Route!


Chris
 nathanlee 12 Sep 2012
In reply to Chris Craggs:

classic foula vid. well worth rewatching.

vimeo.com/34440652
 Oliver Hill 12 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News: Great to see the pitch so quickly climbed. How rock climbing progresses! St Johns always rewards those with believe. Now that the top pitch has almost been onsighted, apart from an errant leg, the onsight continuous first ascent is nearing. 7 days, 3 months, 2 years, soon two days or even one. The march of time, belief and athleticism. On St Johns if you believe you can, you will. Just a Firm Hope away.
 jack_eadie 12 Sep 2012
In reply to UKC News: Cheers for that all. What a place it looks. There must be loads more adventures to be had on Foula for those with the commitment to find them. Fair play to Caff on the Longhope pitch. I just hope he does come back to do the whole route as he says which surely is the complete St Johns Head experience. Look forward to hearing about it!
 Michael Gordon 13 Sep 2012
In reply to flaneur:

Cheers for that.

So, linked first try then without any further work succeeded on third lead attempt in nasty gusting winds. What a superb piece of climbing from McHaffie! He has certainly been going very well this year but the relative ease with which this pitch went down is still surprising.
In reply to UKC News:

JM proposed a downgrade from DM's 8b+ to 8a+, I hear.

James Pearson's reaction to that piece of news would be worth hearing....

jcm
 GrahamD 14 Sep 2012
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

Scottish VS, I heard
 AJM 14 Sep 2012
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:

http://www.jamesmchaffie.com/caffs-blog.html

E8 7a or 8a+ for that pitch he says. Sounds like a bit of an epic trip all told!
 Adam Long 14 Sep 2012
In reply to johncoxmysteriously:
> (In reply to UKC News)
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> JM proposed a downgrade from DM's 8b+ to 8a+, I hear.
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You should take Caff's downgrades with a pinch of salt, he declares everything 'piss'. I suspect the truth, if there's such a thing, will be somewhere in the middle.
 Raskolnik 14 Sep 2012
In reply to jack_eadie:
We've just launched shetlandclimbing.info to try and collate information on climbing up here.
It's obviously a work in progress as it's just been launched, but the Foula page is here: http://shetlandclimbing.info/?trad-crag=the-kame
We have most of the available info on the routes climbed there over the years. =)

Andrew H
 TobyA 14 Sep 2012
In reply to AJM:


This is a great story! Everyone should read. A friend told me a similar experience of jugging up a loose line on El Cap and just going as fast as he could because the exposure made him want to throw up. Epic stuff. well done to the team.

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