In reply to El3ctroFuzz:
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> Umm.. Wow? I dont think using a Trad grade is an ego thing at all. If you are clearly bouldering, use a bouldering grade.
Why are you getting upset about E6 instead of 7a then if you don't think it has some dubious motive?
>If you are clearly Trad/ Soloing use a Trad grade. I really dont see this blurring any lines between Trad/ Solo and bouldering.
Given that picture of you this seem absurd. I know which of those I'd rather fall off! In case you didn't know, using/not using pads does not change the grade of a route. Routes are graded (theoretically for an onsight without pads), not individual ascents. You could argue that a padded ascent of an E route is invalid, but it's pretty trivial hairsplitting and hardly worth the argument on a sub cutting edge FA.
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> Damn, what must the Yanks think of us.
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What? Who gives a shit. What has this to do with Americans. What must the Turks, Jews, Spaniards and Mongolians think of us and this thread? I really doubt they're watching or giving a shit anymore than those scary old yanks.
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> No beef taken!
> Yeh, i would totally agree that Bad Breath could be construed in the wrong way through those photos, and if the angle of the Gecko video was such that it was hard to tell, i would have kept my mouth shut. But, seriously, you can see the whole climb and most of the landing of Gecko very clearly. Bad Breathe was climbed without mats, basically above a rock pool.
See above, routes get grades not ascents. Otherwise I could empty a sack of dog poo and broken glass under Heaven Crack and claim me an E1.
What must the Yanks think!?