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Hi 

I have a trip to The Roaches planned for the summer.

I know there is bouldering and trad there.

Any advice works better helpful.

A great place to develop technique through bouldering and work on head  game?

S

Post edited at 13:57
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 JLS 23 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

>”Any advice”

Just climb stuff. Start with the smallest easiest boulder you can find and take it from there.

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In reply to JLS:

> Just climb stuff. Start with the smallest easiest boulder you can find and take it from there.

Thanks.

Pine Tree Slabs was suggested. Is this for the head game?

S

Post edited at 14:31
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 PaulJepson 23 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Pine Tree Slabs is really good if you're interested in having a go at any trad routes with similar climbing. A few years ago I was there with a mate and we took some time out of routes to do some bouldering on those slabs around lunch. We did Valkyrie after, and both noted that the time building confidence on the pebbly slabs had been really useful for the flake downclimb on the second pitch.

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 Brass Nipples 23 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Visit the skyline if you want to explore bouldering and shorter easier routes. Much less busy than upper and lower tier.

In reply to PaulJepson:

> Pine Tree Slabs is really good if you're interested in having a go at any trad routes with similar climbing. A few years ago I was there with a mate and we took some time out of routes to do some bouldering on those slabs around lunch. We did Valkyrie after, and both noted that the time building confidence on the pebbly slabs had been really useful for the flake downclimb on the second pitch.

Hi Paul.

Are you refering to problems such as Pining for More (f6A+) ? Did you do @Pine Martin (f5)?

Sav

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 Offwidth 23 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Hi Sav. As I understand it you will be with someone I know. Just let them give you ongoing advice as they find you. Asking advice here (unless someone is replying who has met you and seen you move on rock) is all but useless. Having climbed with you, my guess is you might really struggle with some lower grade friction slab problems that don't suit your particular foot mobility. Certainly, quite a few grades given will feel very different to your experience, in relative terms, given your physical issues, even if you are climbing confidently. Have a great day... it's a lovely place.

In reply to Brass Nipples:

> Visit the skyline if you want to explore bouldering and shorter easier routes. Much less busy than upper and lower tier.

I am for checking out multiple venues.👍🏻

Sav

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In reply to Offwidth:

> Hi Sav. As I understand it you will be with someone I know. Just let them give you ongoing advice as they find you. Asking advice here (unless someone is replying who has met you and seen you move on rock) is all but useless. Having climbed with you, my guess is you might really struggle with some lower grade friction slab problems that don't suit your particular foot mobility. Certainly, quite a few grades given will feel very different to your experience, in relative terms, given your physical issues, even if you are climbing confidently. Have a great day... it's a lovely place.

Hi Steve.

I think it is Grimer, your mate - the staffs legend - and myself who are going.

I was communicating with him till the other day then his IG account went weird.

Sav

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In reply to PaulJepson:

> Pine Tree Slabs is really good if you're interested in having a go at any trad routes with similar climbing. A few years ago I was there with a mate and we took some time out of routes to do some bouldering on those slabs around lunch. We did Valkyrie after, and both noted that the time building confidence on the pebbly slabs had been really useful for the flake downclimb on the second pitch.

Hi Paul.

The description of Valkyrie (VS 4c) doesn't say anything about pebbles but there are some E grade routes that have pebbles.

Sav

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 McHeath 24 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

It’s not about the pebbles per se, but:

the time building confidence on the pebbly slabs

i.e. working on your headgame, which would seem to fit in with your objectives

In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Hi Sav

If you’re in no rush when you’re there maybe try spend a few hours on the f3-f5’s on the Big Bloc/Blister slab/Pine Tree Slab.

Should hopefully build a bit of confidence as you work through them and lots of mileage on rock can only be a good thing! 

In reply to Justsomeclimber:

> Hi Sav

Hi

> If you’re in no rush when you’re there maybe try spend a few hours on the f3-f5’s on the Big Bloc/Blister slab/Pine Tree Slab.

Anything to do with Mountain Training RCI/RCDI schemes? I think f3 is around UK tech 4a and f5 is around UK tech 5a. The guy I am climbing with suggested V0 and V1.

> Should hopefully build a bit of confidence as you work through them and lots of mileage on rock can only be a good thing! 

Mileage is great for endurance and yes confidence.

Sav

Post edited at 20:12
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In reply to Offwidth:

> Hi Sav. As I understand it you will be with someone I know. Just let them give you ongoing advice as they find you. Asking advice here (unless someone is replying who has met you and seen you move on rock) is all but useless. Having climbed with you, my guess is you might really struggle with some lower grade friction slab problems that don't suit your particular foot mobility. Certainly, quite a few grades given will feel very different to your experience, in relative terms, given your physical issues, even if you are climbing confidently. Have a great day... it's a lovely place.

Hi Steve.

I sent you an email. He likes to get me psyched about some big E grade route called 'Barriers'.

Sav

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In reply to McHeath:

> It’s not about the pebbles per se, but:

> the time building confidence on the pebbly slabs

I get you.

> …i.e. working on your headgame, which would seem to fit in with your objectives

You need a strong head for nails run out routes 😀

Sav

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 andi turner 26 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Don't worry about the grades. The rocks which "justsomeclimber" has suggested are perfect for what you're after.

 hang_about 26 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

When you're done climbing check out lud's church.

Have a good trip

In reply to hang_about:

> When you're done climbing check out lud's church.

Lol. 😆 Access Banned! 

> Have a good trip

Thanks 

Sav

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In reply to andi turner:

> Don't worry about the grades. The rocks which "justsomeclimber" has suggested are perfect for what you're after.

Hi Andi.

Sadly, I don't think it is happening as Mark and Grimer have problems with their socials. 😞😔

Sav

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In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Hi Savvas

If you can get yourself to Buxton by train, then I can take you on a visit to the Roaches. Best to make it on a weekday, & I do have some commitments in August.....

Nik

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In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

> Hi Savvas

> If you can get yourself to Buxton by train, then I can take you on a visit to the Roaches. Best to make it on a weekday, & I do have some commitments in August.....

> Nik

Hi Nik

Train from London Euston to Buxton - weekdays are best for me anyway.

S

 Offwidth 26 Jun 2025
In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

Thanks for helping Sav again Nik.

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 hang_about 26 Jun 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> Lol. 😆 Access Banned! 

For walking? I didn't mean climbing

In reply to hang_about:

> For walking? I didn't mean climbing

For walking, I don't think so.

From the website, the walk looks great.

Thanks for clarifying.

S

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In reply to hang_about:

> For walking? I didn't mean climbing

UKC link

https://www.ukclimbing.com/logbook/crags/luds_church-22425/

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In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Good oh. Email me a selection of dates that might suit you, & I can let you know what works for me too, & we can put in a request for fair weather 🙏🤞😉

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In reply to PaulJepson:

Hi Paul.

You could say Pine Martin (f5) is similar in style to Ackit (HVS 5b). I am not sure if you can compare Squeezy Slab (f5+) to some of the big E grade routes there - it is smearing.

The holds of Pining for More (f6A+) are definite pebbles.

Sav

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In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

> Good oh. Email me a selection of dates that might suit you, & I can let you know what works for me too, & we can put in a request for fair weather 🙏🤞😉

I don't think I have your email.

 McHeath 01 Jul 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

> I don't think I have your email.

Go to Nik‘s profile and click on “Email user” under his name

In reply to McHeath:

> Go to Nik‘s profile and click on “Email user” under his name

I know how to do this big sometimes it doesn't work.

Sav

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 McHeath 02 Jul 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Nik’s would seem to be working 

In reply to Mountain Spirit:

It works for me Sav.... I do get email through ukc. Give it a try. Nik 

In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

> It works for me Sav.... I do get email through ukc. Give it a try. Nik 

Did you get a message from me?

Sav

In reply to Mountain Spirit:

I did not Sav. Unusual.... so try me at [email protected]. Nik

In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

> I did not Sav. Unusual.... so try me at [email protected]. Nik

I'll try 

In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

> I did not Sav. Unusual.... so try me at [email protected]. Nik

Did you get an email from me?

In reply to Mountain Spirit:

I did, & I have replied

In reply to buxtoncoffeelover:

Got it!

In reply to Brass Nipples:

> Visit the skyline if you want to explore bouldering and shorter easier routes. Much less busy than upper and lower tier.

Routes and problems of all grades. I think it is known it's very highball mini routes such as Track and Counterstroke.

Sav

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In reply to Brass Nipples:

> Visit the skyline if you want to explore bouldering and shorter easier routes. Much less busy than upper and lower tier.

I have checked it out on here and in Western Grit. I think it is known for its short hard routes .

Sav.

P.S. 

Did you attend a workshop at Beacon Climbing last Tuesday on Injury Prevention?

Post edited at 21:51
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In reply to Brass Nipples:

> Visit the skyline if you want to explore bouldering and shorter easier routes. Much less busy than upper and lower tier.

If you are BD Power Lifter.

I have sent you an email.


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In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Project route for pushing down and texture holds for grit slabs F6c+.

S


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 wondershane 21 Aug 2025
In reply to Mountain Spirit:

Bring a pad if you’re bouldering solo, and maybe a buddy if you want to push things trad-wise — and keep an eye on the weather, it can shift quickly out there. Have a great trip

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In reply to wondershane:

> Bring a pad if you’re bouldering solo, and maybe a buddy if you want to push things trad-wise — and keep an eye on the weather, it can shift quickly out there. Have a great trip

Thanks 

In reply to Brass Nipples:

Hiya.

I have a Highball project for JP....

..... Art Nouveau (E6 6b). 👍🏻

Sav

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 aln 23 Aug 2025
In reply to JLS:

> Just climb stuff. Start with the smallest easiest boulder you can find and take it from there.

That's the best advice for a new climber that I've ever read.


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