In reply to Calder:
I'm still not sure climbing with your hood up is cool. As he's ground up'ing an E8 We'll let him off. It was bloody cold that day as well.
One thing I forgot to point out is that all these climbs are done ground up. Big difference to head pointing things with loads of pads.
Apologies for bastardising the E grade system it was really only something that we used to joke about.