In reply to blanchie14c:
> It's that time of year where the anal ones amongst us look at kit and start thinking about shaving a few grammes here and there. I'll be like an ibex this year:
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> New kit
> La Sportiva trango extremes - 850g, 1700 pair 00g saved>
Scarpa Rebel Carbon - 1300 pair (-400g)
> Mammut Trion Element sack - 1310g 80g saved>
Some light weight nylon sack - 300g (-1000g)
> G20 cramps - 800g <400g saved>
For what it is it's a good. For lesser angled snow something like Camp Nanotech will do, too. (-200g)
> BD vipers - 1400g <slightly heavier but I had trigrests on the flys so about the same>
Simond Axes are 650g each. For summer alpine I have Simond Fox with modified griprest. It's 290g and it's not for water ice or if it's too technical (above D). It's super light though. For something like the Frendo spur in summer two of those is more than enough.
> DMM Super couloir harness - 385g <95g saved!>
Arcteryx has harness with four loops for 275g
Rab has excellent Xenon belay jacket for 320g. Fleece layers are much lighter than wool. Gaiters are not needed at all. The lightest cooking system available is a Primus Titanium kettle with Optimus Crux foldable. Both the cooker and the gas canister will fit inside the kettle - thus overall bulk of 1L (ie. smaller pack). Remember that 10m of extra rope is 500g more.
> Thats a hell of a lot of money for just over a kilo saving and I already use dyneema slings, Serenity rope and helium QDs so apart from having a really big poo before leaving the car I can't see where to save any more weight.
Money saving is relative. Old climbing gear retails quite good value. If sell it instead of storing it the cost is less.
If you put all your gear on Excel you'll quickly notice the lightest gear is in the car. The less you have - the smaller pack you need and the smaller is the pack size.