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Friday night is music night! And tonight it is drummers. I am just listening to Halfbreed by Keef Hartley Band and I think it is a great example of a drummer leading a band without dominating it. Other examples are Ginger Baker's Airforce & Jon Hiseman's Coliseum.
So two questions for you.
What is your favourite drummer led band?
Who is your favourite drummer in a band?
So two questions for you.
What is your favourite drummer led band?
Who is your favourite drummer in a band?
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Numbers 1 and 2 are no surprise.
I always liked Cozy Powell who graced Whitesnake, Black Sabbath and Rainbow and who can forget the great Phil Rudd in AC/DC, one of my favourite rock n roll bands.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-drummers-of-all-time-2...
Numbers 1 and 2 are no surprise.
I always liked Cozy Powell who graced Whitesnake, Black Sabbath and Rainbow and who can forget the great Phil Rudd in AC/DC, one of my favourite rock n roll bands.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-drummers-of-all-time-2...
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Don Caballero, drummer was Damon Che.
youtube.com/watch?v=quaQFHJr3Bo&
youtube.com/watch?v=XMBR1wlGLZ8&
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Don Caballero, drummer was Damon Che.
youtube.com/watch?v=quaQFHJr3Bo&
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Even though it's well before my time - I'd nominate Keith Moon. Listen to the drumming on My Generation
Even though it's well before my time - I'd nominate Keith Moon. Listen to the drumming on My Generation
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Well, I don't know if any of these drummers could be said to have lead their band, their colleagues also being so talented, but they have certainly been integral to my enjoyment of the music:
Keith Moon, The Who: Many songs seem driven by his drumming, from the Kids are Alright to Won't Get Fooled Again.
Clem Burke, Blondie: In Dreaming and Union City Blue he is magnificent, and he does a mean stick twirl.
Pete Thomas, The Attractions, with Elvis Costello: I love to watch their performances from the 70s. Pete and the rest are all brilliant, but he really shone for me in (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love And Understanding. I also loved the way he drove the final few seconds of their Glastonbury 2013 performance.
Well, I don't know if any of these drummers could be said to have lead their band, their colleagues also being so talented, but they have certainly been integral to my enjoyment of the music:
Keith Moon, The Who: Many songs seem driven by his drumming, from the Kids are Alright to Won't Get Fooled Again.
Clem Burke, Blondie: In Dreaming and Union City Blue he is magnificent, and he does a mean stick twirl.
Pete Thomas, The Attractions, with Elvis Costello: I love to watch their performances from the 70s. Pete and the rest are all brilliant, but he really shone for me in (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love And Understanding. I also loved the way he drove the final few seconds of their Glastonbury 2013 performance.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
John said it but I should have mentioned Stewart Copeland. Just watch early Police recordings. He/they is/are amazing.
John said it but I should have mentioned Stewart Copeland. Just watch early Police recordings. He/they is/are amazing.
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In reply to jim jones:
I saw ELP in Stoke in 1971? - yes he was awesome.
I saw ELP in Stoke in 1971? - yes he was awesome.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
As above, Stuart Copeland, Neil Peart, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer.
Add in Bonham, and any of Zappa’s drummers and you’ve got the full set.
And Dave Grohl.
As above, Stuart Copeland, Neil Peart, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer.
Add in Bonham, and any of Zappa’s drummers and you’ve got the full set.
And Dave Grohl.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Neil Peart by a street imo
youtube.com/watch?v=VoTxTM6kBuU&
Neil Peart by a street imo
youtube.com/watch?v=VoTxTM6kBuU&
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In reply to Andy Hardy:
I saw the Who at Salford Uni in 1968 with Keith Moon and they were fantastic - they did a hits set then an early version of Tommy. It was so different from a normal rock band set but you could see the quality.
I saw the Who at Salford Uni in 1968 with Keith Moon and they were fantastic - they did a hits set then an early version of Tommy. It was so different from a normal rock band set but you could see the quality.
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In reply to mbh:
+1 for Clem Burke - Union City blue is top Blondie tune.
+1 for Clem Burke - Union City blue is top Blondie tune.
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In reply to Fruit:
In a band of three virtuosos, Alex Lifeson always seems a bit underrated as a guitarist, but he’s really on form in that clip! Wringing a lovely noise out of that gorgeous Gibson.
> Neil Peart by a street imo
In a band of three virtuosos, Alex Lifeson always seems a bit underrated as a guitarist, but he’s really on form in that clip! Wringing a lovely noise out of that gorgeous Gibson.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Not sure about favourite, but I randomly stumbled across someone called Martha Hill playing a gig in Aberdeen earlier this week and really enjoyed it, lots of energy and the band seemed to be really enjoying themselves.
Not sure about favourite, but I randomly stumbled across someone called Martha Hill playing a gig in Aberdeen earlier this week and really enjoyed it, lots of energy and the band seemed to be really enjoying themselves.
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
My stepsons band, he's the drummer and they are pretty good, (all in 6th form) but I'm biased.
? Games Without The Fun by The Rooves
https://m.soundcloud.com/user-290025442/game-without-the-fun
My stepsons band, he's the drummer and they are pretty good, (all in 6th form) but I'm biased.
? Games Without The Fun by The Rooves
https://m.soundcloud.com/user-290025442/game-without-the-fun
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Danny Carey of Tool is a drummer that makes the insanely technical sound and look like the most natural thing ever. Loads of good drummer-cam and drums workshop vids on YouTube.
For pure listening enjoyment, it's either Brendan Canty from Fugazi or Jimmy Chamberlin of Smashing Pumpkins.
Danny Carey of Tool is a drummer that makes the insanely technical sound and look like the most natural thing ever. Loads of good drummer-cam and drums workshop vids on YouTube.
For pure listening enjoyment, it's either Brendan Canty from Fugazi or Jimmy Chamberlin of Smashing Pumpkins.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
No mention yet of either Ringo or Animal?
Brann Dailor (Mastodon), is worth a mention.
No mention yet of either Ringo or Animal?
Brann Dailor (Mastodon), is worth a mention.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Stephen Morris has always come across as a thoroughly decent bloke as well an excellent drummer - someone who’s contribution is always noticeable but never dominating. Plus he mastered the technique of drumming slower yet faster, which took some doing.....
More recently the drummer that most impressed me live was Cat from Honeyblood (and recently stepped in to help Mogwai out) - not quite sure what personal issues she was exorcising but someone has pissed her off !
Stephen Morris has always come across as a thoroughly decent bloke as well an excellent drummer - someone who’s contribution is always noticeable but never dominating. Plus he mastered the technique of drumming slower yet faster, which took some doing.....
More recently the drummer that most impressed me live was Cat from Honeyblood (and recently stepped in to help Mogwai out) - not quite sure what personal issues she was exorcising but someone has pissed her off !
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Not sure if they constitute a "drummer led band" but Jaki, always Jaki.
youtube.com/watch?v=zrkUiCugQDE&
youtube.com/watch?v=yNvJiIvitBQ&
Not sure if they constitute a "drummer led band" but Jaki, always Jaki.
youtube.com/watch?v=zrkUiCugQDE&
youtube.com/watch?v=yNvJiIvitBQ&
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
First time I saw Supergrass when they were just a backing band.
Danny something ( the one whose dad used to be on top gear).
He beat the kit senseless for the entire set while the other three stood and watched.
It was great!
First time I saw Supergrass when they were just a backing band.
Danny something ( the one whose dad used to be on top gear).
He beat the kit senseless for the entire set while the other three stood and watched.
It was great!
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Grant Hart who wrote and sang half of Husker Du's songs. Died just a few weeks ago and criminally underrated during his lifetime, as the tributes and obituaries showed
Grant Hart who wrote and sang half of Husker Du's songs. Died just a few weeks ago and criminally underrated during his lifetime, as the tributes and obituaries showed
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Fleetwood Mac, even though I think Mick F is the least talented person in the band.
Steve Ferrone. I hope he can find a new position without Tom Petty.
Fleetwood Mac, even though I think Mick F is the least talented person in the band.
Steve Ferrone. I hope he can find a new position without Tom Petty.
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Chris Tomson's drumming always seemed to give Vampire Weekend's songs an extra something.
Chris Tomson's drumming always seemed to give Vampire Weekend's songs an extra something.
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Favourite drummer led group - Philly Joe Jones - Miles Davis Quintet
Favourite drummer- Andy Anderson ‘83/84, The Cure
Favourite drummer led group - Philly Joe Jones - Miles Davis Quintet
Favourite drummer- Andy Anderson ‘83/84, The Cure
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In reply to Fruit:
Yep
One of my fave guitarists is Jeff Beck, and on his Ronnie Scott’s gigs he has Zappa’s old drummer Vinnie Colaiuta and Tal Walkenfeld on Bass. Absolutely brilliant.
Don’t even get me started on Terry Bozzio playing Zappa’s ‘Black Page’
> Wouldn’t you just love to be able to play half as well as any of them
Yep
One of my fave guitarists is Jeff Beck, and on his Ronnie Scott’s gigs he has Zappa’s old drummer Vinnie Colaiuta and Tal Walkenfeld on Bass. Absolutely brilliant.
Don’t even get me started on Terry Bozzio playing Zappa’s ‘Black Page’
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In reply to paul_in_cumbria:
I heard Alice Cooper yesterday on R2, picking a couple of favourite tracks. I liked him a lot. His first choice was The Train Kept A-Rollin by the Yardbirds. He said (something like) "You've got Eric Clapton, Jimmie Page and Jeff Beck in your band. Not bad, eh?"
I heard Alice Cooper yesterday on R2, picking a couple of favourite tracks. I liked him a lot. His first choice was The Train Kept A-Rollin by the Yardbirds. He said (something like) "You've got Eric Clapton, Jimmie Page and Jeff Beck in your band. Not bad, eh?"
In reply to mbh:
Yet another vote for Keith Moon from me.
Honourable mention to Bonzo too.
And, just because I feel that this list should include a Welshman, Terry Williams of Man, Rockpile and, errm, some other band.
Yet another vote for Keith Moon from me.
Honourable mention to Bonzo too.
And, just because I feel that this list should include a Welshman, Terry Williams of Man, Rockpile and, errm, some other band.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
The drummer who did the Black Sabbath farewell tour was amazing. Will have to look it up. Tommy Clufetos.
Dave Grohl obviously.
There is a woman who I can't remember the name of.
Meg White.
The drummer who did the Black Sabbath farewell tour was amazing. Will have to look it up. Tommy Clufetos.
Dave Grohl obviously.
There is a woman who I can't remember the name of.
Meg White.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Someone has to go silly ....
Pah pah pah
youtube.com/watch?v=skqOR8mCsTQ&
Someone has to go silly ....
Pah pah pah
youtube.com/watch?v=skqOR8mCsTQ&
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Can't think of any bands that I'd call "drummer led" but some standouts for me have been
David Narcizo (Throwing Muses)
Stephen Morris (New order)
Michael Smoughton (Saloon)
Tyson Vogel (Two Gallants)
Tyson is the "obvious" one, a ferocious style like Animal from the Muppets crossed with Captain Caveman, and half of a two piece band somehow sharing credit almost equally with writer, guitarist and singer
Can't think of any bands that I'd call "drummer led" but some standouts for me have been
David Narcizo (Throwing Muses)
Stephen Morris (New order)
Michael Smoughton (Saloon)
Tyson Vogel (Two Gallants)
Tyson is the "obvious" one, a ferocious style like Animal from the Muppets crossed with Captain Caveman, and half of a two piece band somehow sharing credit almost equally with writer, guitarist and singer
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Forgot to mention Liam Genocky, now apparently Steeleye Span but to me he's Paul Brady's drummer.
Forgot to mention Liam Genocky, now apparently Steeleye Span but to me he's Paul Brady's drummer.
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Not many drummer-led bands mentioned above. The obvious one would be Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers. Nifty drummer and so many amazing horn players (not to mention Mr Silver's piany playing).
Not many drummer-led bands mentioned above. The obvious one would be Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers. Nifty drummer and so many amazing horn players (not to mention Mr Silver's piany playing).
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
I'm a big fan of the Grateful Dead, they had 2 drummers and sometimes they led the band.
youtube.com/watch?v=dkI50SnewOE&
> What is your favourite drummer led band?
> Who is your favourite drummer in a band?
I'm a big fan of the Grateful Dead, they had 2 drummers and sometimes they led the band.
youtube.com/watch?v=dkI50SnewOE&
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In reply to Tony Jones:
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I was hoping someone would mention Terry Williams ..Listen to "Scotch Corner" on Man's Rhinos winos and Lunatics bloody awesome drumming.. plus many others
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> And, just because I feel that this list should include a Welshman, Terry Williams of Man, Rockpile and, errm, some other band.
I was hoping someone would mention Terry Williams ..Listen to "Scotch Corner" on Man's Rhinos winos and Lunatics bloody awesome drumming.. plus many others
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In reply to toad:
Seeing them on Monday in Bristol. Looking forward to it - but looking forward to Ghostpoet in November even more. Not that that has anything to do with this thread, mind.
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Seeing them on Monday in Bristol. Looking forward to it - but looking forward to Ghostpoet in November even more. Not that that has anything to do with this thread, mind.
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In reply to Tony Jones:
If you want a Welshman the drummer it's got to be Sean Moore out of the Manics.
If you want a Welshman the drummer it's got to be Sean Moore out of the Manics.
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Big fan of Mike Portnoy when he was leading Dream Theater but he's lost his way a little.
Also have to mention Buddy Rich.
Big fan of Mike Portnoy when he was leading Dream Theater but he's lost his way a little.
Also have to mention Buddy Rich.
In reply to Baron Weasel:
Micket Hart & Bill Kreutzmann - the so called 'rolling thunder' sound! Saw them in 1970 at the Hollywood Festival (That is Hollywood near Stoke on Trent). They were terrific.
Micket Hart & Bill Kreutzmann - the so called 'rolling thunder' sound! Saw them in 1970 at the Hollywood Festival (That is Hollywood near Stoke on Trent). They were terrific.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Tony Allen. Fela Kuti's drummer who's done loads of stuff since. This thread just made me look him up and he's got a new album out. The track I've got on now is awesome.
http://www.bluenote.com/news/tony-allen-blue-note-debut-the-source
Seems he did a tribute thing to Art Blakey mentioned above, greatest ever drummer led band for me, already mentioned.
Tony Allen. Fela Kuti's drummer who's done loads of stuff since. This thread just made me look him up and he's got a new album out. The track I've got on now is awesome.
http://www.bluenote.com/news/tony-allen-blue-note-debut-the-source
Seems he did a tribute thing to Art Blakey mentioned above, greatest ever drummer led band for me, already mentioned.
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Cool - could only find a short clip on youtube - will try to dig out the whole show from my mates archive!
youtube.com/watch?v=y9KWriTUI9Q&
Cool - could only find a short clip on youtube - will try to dig out the whole show from my mates archive!
youtube.com/watch?v=y9KWriTUI9Q&
In reply to paul_in_cumbria:
If you rate Zappa's drummers you might find this interesting, basically 5 of his drummers discussing their experiences of playing for him, quite long but interesting.
youtube.com/watch?v=ztoeFXJsxJI&
> and any of Zappa’s drummers and you’ve got the full set. >
If you rate Zappa's drummers you might find this interesting, basically 5 of his drummers discussing their experiences of playing for him, quite long but interesting.
youtube.com/watch?v=ztoeFXJsxJI&
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Dr Avalance; The Sisters of Mercy.
Better timing than any other drummer.
Dr Avalance; The Sisters of Mercy.
Better timing than any other drummer.
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In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Dunno about "drummer led" but IMO Levon Helm in The Band combined drumming and vocals very well:
youtube.com/watch?v=eOi0tC00Luc&
For "favourite drummer" it would be between Chris Slade and Billy Cobham
Dunno about "drummer led" but IMO Levon Helm in The Band combined drumming and vocals very well:
youtube.com/watch?v=eOi0tC00Luc&
For "favourite drummer" it would be between Chris Slade and Billy Cobham
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:
Anderson Paak - real drummer-led band:
youtube.com/watch?v=jcuOkyGWcFk&
Anderson Paak - real drummer-led band:
youtube.com/watch?v=jcuOkyGWcFk&
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In reply to Rob Naylor:
2nd that.
> Dunno about "drummer led" but IMO Levon Helm in The Band combined drumming and vocals very well:
2nd that.
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