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Bob Kemp - on 01 Dec 2017
Some bands and albums just don't make it for one reason or another. They sink without trace, or perhaps have fifteen minutes of fame before disappearing until resurrected by crate-diggers years in the future. I wondered what your particular favourites in this vein might be, but I'll start with one of mine: the first One Dove album, Morning Dove White.

Morning Dove White comes into the fifteen minutes of fame category - decent reviews, featuring in end-of-year lists, a bit of a hip cachet, but only moderate sales. But to me it's a heady combination of spacey synths, beguiling vocals from Dot Allison, and an inventive dub-wise production from Andrew Weatherall. After that they recorded a second album that was never released (although you can find some of the tracks on Soundcloud). Business hassles and falling out followed. That album was never released. To me they were a real loss. This first track on the album gives you a good flavour of their sound - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX4IfDBcf28 .

So, have you got any albums or bands that you hold close to your heart but which for some reason never quite achieved the fame and status that they deserved? All genres welcome...
Big Ger - on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Witness; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_(UK_band)

Neutron Star ( A spin off from the band "Man".)

Heidi Berry; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Berry

My own band, The Roomtown Bats.
aln - on 01 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Earl Brutus - Tonight You Are The Special One. Their 2nd and last album. Intelligent and funny, often bizarre, lyrics. Great playing, catchy hooks, some driving beats often with a 70's glam rock feel. I LOVE this album.
aln - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:

>My own band, The Roomtown Bats.

Gawd help us all...


no_more_scotch_eggs - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Maybe not exactly lost, but Suede have been perhaps ‘missing in action ‘ ever since Bernard butler left. Everything since dog man star has been, to use one of their own song titles, trash

But having long since given up any expectation of them producing anything worthwhile again, I recently stumbled across ‘night thoughts’- I completely missed that it had even been released.

It’s remarkably good, far better than anything they’ve done for over 20 years. Best comeback album ever? Maybe not, but struggling to think of a better one...
Lusk - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:

> My own band, The Roomtown Bats.

I loved your should've been a hit 'I don't like Tories'.
You could've bought Cornwall with the royalties.
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:

Interesting selection, and definitely lost - can't find any Neutron Star so far. Witness clearly had some potential from the couple of tracks I've found so far. Can't find Neutron Star, but I remember Man. Heidi Berry was on 4AD, so I do remember hearing her. Very folky (not a criticism...).
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to no_more_scotch_eggs:

Maybe not lost, but certainly lost their way!
pasbury on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

From the same era Spooky - Gargantuan. Really summed up the euphoric dubby house music of 1993.
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to aln:

> Earl Brutus - Tonight You Are The Special One. Their 2nd and last album. Intelligent and funny, often bizarre, lyrics. Great playing, catchy hooks, some driving beats often with a 70's glam rock feel. I LOVE this album.

Yeah, I missed them completely. I will look that one up. Would have liked to have seen them - sound pretty mental.
pasbury on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Levitation? Need for Not was an amazing urgent sounding album.

Can Loop be considered forgotten?
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> From the same era Spooky - Gargantuan. Really summed up the euphoric dubby house music of 1993.

That's fun - who was the vocalist?
Stuart en Écosse - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Rocket from the Tombs, who split and morphed into slightly less obscure The Dead Boys and Pere Ubu.

This predates Sonic Youth and Nirvana by the best part of two decades, and it's awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoboBaxTh58



pasbury on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Various sampled vocalists, like orbital used to do.

Reminds of another one Something Good by Utah Saints vocals by a sampled Kate Bush.
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:


> Levitation? Need for Not was an amazing urgent sounding album.
Totally missed them. Will investigate...

> Can Loop be considered forgotten?
Well, I'd completely forgotten them...
pasbury on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:

That is on my Christmas list- thanks.

Honolulu Mountain Daffodils.
aln - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoboBaxTh58>

Oh my jeezy peeps that's fantastic!

aln - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

Playing with knives?
Big Ger - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Lusk:

> I loved your should've been a hit 'I don't like Tories'.

We could have been contenders...

> You could've bought Cornwall with the royalties.

I know, due to that I had to wait another ten years before I could afford to buy it. Still, it's been a good purchase since. Want to visit Cornwall? Send me £50 via paypal, and your address and date of birth.

Big Ger - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

My bad Bob, they were called the Neutrons, not Neutron Star;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnyGCEYPSxE
Doug on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

never understood why Spirogyra (the Canterbury based group, not the American Spyro Gyra) didn't have more success with their first LP St. Radigunds ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MTAWHuIT8k ) although singer Barbara Gaskin did go on to sing with moderately succesful Hatfield & the North & to have a hit with a cover of 'It's My Party and I'll cry if I want to'.
bouldery bits - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

The infadels - we are not the infadels

Guillemots - through the window pane
DerwentDiluted - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Thanks for reminding me of a great band, Breakdown being my favourite. I stage managed this band once, a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, escorting Dot to the stage damn near got a black eye. But thats another story, and not even a very good one.
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> Levitation? Need for Not was an amazing urgent sounding album.

> Can Loop be considered forgotten?

I'm now wondering now if there's a distinction between lost and forgotten... they're certainly lost, because it's bloody hard to find anything on the web now. If you search for 'Loop band' now you get a load of hits about resistance band exercises!
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to bouldery bits:

> The infadels - we are not the infadels

> Guillemots - through the window pane

Funny band Guillemots. I've got one of their CDs somewhere. I played it regularly for a few months then never again. I can't remember any of the songs but I seem to recall one where someone played a typewriter.
Tobes on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> Levitation? Need for Not was an amazing urgent sounding album.

> Can Loop be considered forgotten?

Well, Loop toured a new album last year and I think their back catalogue has had a recent reissue so they are still in their fans minds at least (love their cover of Cans Mother Sky)

My shout would be for the Chameleons, their debut Script from under the Bridge should be in every ones collection.

alanblyth - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Gaslight Anthem never got the status they (Or atleast Brian Fallon) craved so badly, I'm a big fan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-ZN7NyPfb4).

And this guy's solo project "Shoes and socks off" is very obscure but I always thought was going to 'make it' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_3swOHBxWI).
AP Melbourne on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

I wondered what your particular favorites in this vein might be, but I'll start with one of mine: the first One Dove album, Morning Dove White.

This first track on the album gives you a good flavour of their sound - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX4IfDBcf28 .

Heck Bob, you're a man after my own soul. One Dove were one of my all-time faves so thanks for the reminder. One White Dove shared one of my cassette tapes along with Vanessa Paradis' Joe le Taxi, Latin Quarter's Radio Africa and Prefab Sprout's album Steve McQueen.
Some other great contributions from others too up above.

malky_c - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:
A new version of 'Meanwhile Gardens' with Terry Bickers' vocals added back on was released a couple of years back. It was unexpectedly brilliant. Dark Star (basically Levitation as a 3-piece, without Bickers) had a good album 'Twenty Twenty Sound' as well, before disappearing again.

Depending on your tastes, I would also recommend the following forgotten albums:

Delgados - Peloton: Twee noise pop.
Dub War -Wrong Side of Beautiful: Welsh raga metal (although sadly not sung in Welsh). Much better than it sounds.
Swervedriver - Raise or Mezcal Head: Like Dinosaur Jr. with added wonky noise.
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Dell on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

I'll never understand why Headswim weren't massive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPPakTC5pZU
Mike Peacock on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to bouldery bits:

> The infadels - we are not the infadels

> Guillemots - through the window pane

Both great choices but Guillemots particularly. Through the Windowpane was perfect. Red very hit and miss but the closing three tracks are sublime. Walk the River seemed on first listen to be weirdly unadventurous but on repeated listens I've come to love the sadness that runs through the record. Then we came to 2012 when they were set to release four albums (!), only once of which saw the light of day.
Bob Kemp - on 02 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:

> My bad Bob, they were called the Neutrons, not Neutron Star;


Curiously enough they were on the soundtrack of a BBC Play for Today by Peter McDougall, about sectarianism in Glasgow. It had Billy Connolly in it.

If you were into them and Man you might remember Mighty Baby, who were also purveyors of that psych jam band kind of thing. Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gatuDgxIrUw
pasbury on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to malky_c:

We must have very similar record collections - the only one I don’t possess is Dub War. Delgados never achieved the recognition they should except for the adulation of John Peel listeners. Swervedriver’s albums you mention are indeed brilliant.
Deleted bagger - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Dr Feelgood; great live with Wilko Johnson on guitar but somehow never got the recognition before he left.
Big Ger - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Would "The Enid" count?

Great band, never got the acclaim they deserved, seen them live too many times to count.

A "cult" Band?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0t_ZdwtR4

pasbury on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
Gyrate by Pylon.

Even though they are included in the Athens scene that produced R.E.M. I don’t think many people have heard the record and it’s superb. It sounds like so many bands who mix pop, funk and punk; but check the datestamp - Pylon were first.
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kmhphoto - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Hank Wangford and The Lost Cowboys, a great band that are still going strong on the club scene and also formed the Nude Mountaineering Society.

http://www.hankwangford.co.uk/nums.html
Bob Kemp - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:
I’m sure The Enid would count - lost in the tidal wave of punk/new wave when prog became a dirty word. Still going I believe?
pec on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

> I’m sure The Enid would count - lost in the tidal wave of punk/new wave when prog became a dirty word. Still going I believe? >

Yes, if they had got their first album out a few years earlier they could have been up there with Yes and Genesis in the prog hall of fame.
They are indeed still going but curiously now with no original members though with the blessing of Robert John Godfrey, the founder and only member throughout, well until he retired. He was diagnosed with dementia a few years ago and gradually withdrew whilst coaching the new youthful members in the art of composition.
Blue Straggler - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Fantastic thread, great suggestion in the OP and lovely to see others cite it too.

I saw One Dove live twice, which is actually quite a lot for an average punter given that they didn't really last very long. Morning Dove White did get a lot of positive press attention and healthy amounts of radio support.

Dot had a promising career as a singer-songwriter and producer. 4 solo albums but none of them took off, which was a real shame as she skilfully balanced "accessible melodies" with "not being bland and generic" (and her second solo effort was a lot more electro, in response to charges of her first solo being "a bit Beth Orton").

Big Ger - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

pec beat me too it.
alan moore - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:


> Morning Dove White comes into the fifteen minutes of fame category -

Thanks for that; I'd forgotten all about them.

What about Northside?
Always rated them.
But nobody else did.


Blue Straggler - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

My contribution is, for a change, not Electrelane.

Staying on the Scottish theme...
Sons and Daughters.

One mini-album "Love the Cup"
One fantastic proper album "The Repulsion Box"
One mediocre next album

The Repulsion Box should have made them stars. Not global superstars, perhaps, but they deserved a lot more than what they got. They should have been headlining 1500-capacity venues. Shepherd's Bush Empire kind of places. They never even got to that.
Yet they had a LOT going for them. Male and female vocalists who would duet with sparring lyrics; all of them were cool and good-looking, a nice dirty guitar sound at a time when that was really the fashion, and a superb live presence (Adele Bethel prowling the stage like some sort of Scottish panther, and Scott playing guitar like his life depended on it)

Was it that the world was never truly going to embrace a proper Scots-accented vocal? Was it that Adele wasn't stick-thin? Was it that The Kills and Yeah Yeah Yeahs had already swallowed the entire market for the kind of sound and vibe that Sons and Daughters had?

Love the photo montage on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVqtu42BK0
Blue Straggler - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to alan moore:

Northside got a fair amount of radio play in the days when Mark Goodier had the Evening Session on Radio 1. They often featured in the music press and had tracks on cover-mounted cassettes and the grebo 6th-form girls had their T-shirts and badges. They MUST have had a bit of a following, because I always knew their name and have never forgotten it, yet I don't know what they sound like or look like and couldn't name a record by them!
Blue Straggler - on 03 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Got an urge to post some post-One-Dove Dot

From first solo album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2aoHnZdnU

From second solo album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz48Mwu-xlM

and I think this is a song from the fourth album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb-FQwMcXIU

and of course her single-chord strumming and "la la la" vocal on Death in Vegas' "Dirge" was genius.

Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

I think it's a bit of a shame that - at least on the CD - the production on Morning Dove White does now sound quite dated (I have an ongoing "in my head' project about listing my favourite 20 albums and I'd like to include this but soundwise it doesn't seem to have stood the test of time, whereas "bigger sound" records like Leftism and Music for the Jilted Generation, have endured). Actually most of Weatherall's stuff really sounds locked in its original period. I wonder if a remaster could beef it up a bit.

I say this as someone who has nearly all the CD singles and 12"s and a few rarities like the original white label of Transient Truth. Mostly all signed by Dot. So you can see why I want it to be better than it is (if that makes sense)

Also wasn't there some hoo-hah about getting Stephen Hague to "brighten it all up" before release, such that on the album, only a few Weatherall productions remain untouched?
Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:


> This predates Sonic Youth and Nirvana by the best part of two decades, and it's awesome.

30 Seconds over Tokyo is fab, I only knew the Pere Ubu version.

BUT
A pedant writes:
Sonic Youth were putting records out in early 1982.
OK, Nirvana's first record release was Nov 1988 so I'll give you "the best part of two decades" on that one, as that (pedantically) starts at 1 day past ten years

>

Si_G - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> Swervedriver’s albums you mention are indeed brilliant.

Swervedriver always pop up on indie / shoegazing compilations. I often have “Rave Down” as an earworm.

As for Northside - aren’t we talking that kinda post-baggy era before it all went Grunge?
Senseless Things, Kingmaker, Thousand Yard Stare, Neds, Carter.
I went to one of the last Carter reunion shows the other year. Fantastic gig.
Frank and Walters support slot was good, too.
dread-i - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Bob Calvert's Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters. About how the US sold dangerous aircraft to the German airforce, resulting in a number of deaths. Vaguely psychedelic, vaguely comedic album dealing with dodgy big business. (His next album was about how the vikings found America, but didnt want it.) One the of the forerunners of the anti capitalist movement?

Gaye bykers on acid (or their alter ego's Lesbian dope heads on mopeds). Though, I see they are touring again.
Bong water, just obscure and fun.
Spaceman3, big guitars and wall of noise. Taking Drugs To Make Music To Take Drugs To, has got to be one of the best titles out there. ( I realize Spiritualized went on to have some success.)
Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to dread-i:
Sorry to be picky but I thought the Lockheed Starfighter was sold globally, including within the USAF.

I think the Italians called them "Flying Coffin Nails"

Oh!
Great call on Bongwater. Were they that obscure? "Cult" band for sure, but fairly widely known and well remembered now.
Their "Everybody's Talking" was splendid
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pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to pec:

On a proggy line of thought how about Other Way Out by Sun Dial. I think they have continued to produce music to the present but very niche.
Their debut though was a great sunny blast of psychedelia.
pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> Actually most of Weatherall's stuff really sounds locked in its original period. I wonder if a remaster could beef it up a bit.

I don't think Haunted dancehall (Sabres of Paradise) does! An epically brilliant concept dance album - who would have thought it!
pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to dread-i:

Bongwater - good call, I'll have to dig out Double Bummer and give it a whirl.

Reminds me of Mystical Shit by King Missile, part of a very small set of music that's meant to be funny and actually is*. Jesus was Way Cool is my favourite.



*Might be partially dependent on the quality of weed you're on at the time.
Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> I don't think Haunted dancehall (Sabres of Paradise) does! An epically brilliant concept dance album - who would have thought it!

Yes, I was out of line with my comment. I actually meant "the One Dove album, Primal Scream's Screamadelica, and a couple of Weatherall / Sabres singles", rather than "most of Weatherall's stuff"

Saw him perform at Blue Dot festival in July this year. He's gone full on beardy-weirdy in appearance, looks like something from an AD&D convention Music style hasn't changed much.
Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:
> Bongwater - good call, I'll have to dig out Double Bummer and give it a whirl.

Double Bummer has a lot of filler and is quite hard work - maybe OK to enjoy alone but if you were listening to some tracks and someone came in and asked "what on EARTH is this", it would take AGES to explain

I like the one about David Bowie stealing ideas.


I also like that a thread starting with One Dove, has come around to Bongwater, because Kramer worked on Dot Allison's fourth album. Or her third. Can't remember. Probably the third one actually.

And all the Bongwater fans need to check out the film "Making Mr Right", probably Ann Magnuson's most fun bit of film work (and a very rare 80s comedic performance from John Malkovich)
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pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Can you recommend anything recent - I haven't kept up with what he's doing at all?
Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> Can you recommend anything recent - I haven't kept up with what he's doing at all?

Sorry, not me. I don't follow him really, electronic and "dance" music in his era was never my bag apart from a few obvious big hitters. Loved his "Wilmot" and "Theme" (from $hopping) but never even had Haunted Dancehall. I only saw him at the festival cos it was midnight and there was nothing else going on. I wasn't really paying attention, it was a bit dull to me but could well have been mind blowing for someone else!
pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Yes, that sounds about right - when they hit the target they were great. I think Breaking No New Ground was more hit than miss. Don't know the later stuff.
pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

I'm on a roll now. I love the Aruca ep and Shot Forth Self Living by medicine from the early '90s. They took the sound of My Bloody Valentine and made it more fierce.
Blue Straggler - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

Medicine with the female lead singer?
They were indeed underrated in sonic terms at least. I think an appearance on the soundtrack to "The Crow" was kind of their high point in terms of exposure!
alan moore - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to dread-i:

> Bob Calvert's Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters.

Quite liked Freq, from the mid-eighties, where the miners got the Lucky Lief treatment...

Big Ger - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

I've got a couple of CDs which I really like by a Scottish folk bad, "Afterhours", cannot find damn thing on the m on the net.
pasbury on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

That's them.

Another one; a lost band.
Bardo Pond, been going for years, still at it, unique, heavy as f*ck. The best band in the world.
aln - on 04 Dec 2017
Stuart en Écosse - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:

> I've got a couple of CDs which I really like by a Scottish folk bad, "Afterhours", cannot find damn thing on the m on the net.

That name rings a bell. I'll do some digging.

There was an instrumental Irish duo, guitar, fiddle and/or flute called The Hurricane who were friends of a friend. I had a cassette which I think I left in a car years ago. It was trad Irish and utterly brilliant.
Big Ger - on 04 Dec 2017
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:

Many thanks mate.
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> That's them.

I never really knew them apart from that song on The Crow, and a CD single that possibly had a Cocteau Twins connection (maybe Robin Guthrie did a remix or something), and a few very positive mentions in the music press (even at the time stating that they were an underrated and overlooked band). I'll have a listen tomorrow.

Actually just back from a gig by a band that you, as a Medicine fan, might like.
Pumarosa.
London band, not as strong/fierce a sound as Medicine, but that sort of ballpark. Five-piece with a female vocalist (and rhythm guitarist), lead guitar, bass, drums, and a big bank of keyboards and various knob-twiddling with occasional blasts of processed sax. Fair amount of reverb and delay on the vocal too, so it's a bit Gothy. But they are really good both live and on record.
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Enjoying this thread and thought of another that I've not gone on about length before.

Magnapop.

Led by Michael Stipe's sister Linda Hopper, I guess their connections in the wake of REM becoming huge MIGHT have helped but they wouldn't have got far without having material to back them up. 1992-4 saw their album Hot Boxing getting a fair bit of credible attention from the press and the better bits of Radio 1 (Mark Radcliffe, Whiley & Lamacq and maybe Peel)
I saw them two or three times. They never really hit it as big as they should have. Maybe because Linda wasn't yer conventionally attractive "front person" and was already the "wrong side of 30" when they started getting attention.
What was an awful shame for them was that they were on one of those "not really indie but pretending to be" subsidiary labels under a major. That subsidiary got bought (or something along those lines) whilst Magnapop were dropped from the roster...but then due to some contractual thing, the label that bought the subsidiary then owned the name Magnapop which meant the band could not continue to trade as Magnapop!
In a pre-Internet world, this meant that most of us assumed they had split up. Not the case.

At the time I'd only heard a cassette copy of Hot Boxing.
A few years ago I bought it on CD alongside the follow-up album Rubbing Doesn't Help.

What was really noticeable was that the production did not sound dated AT ALL. I think you could put these records out today just as they sound, and pretend that it's a new band In particular the way the drums have been recorded (not that I know anything about such things)

Lay it Down and Slowly, Slowly were the "big hits" off Hot Boxing but I also think this one is worth a shout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeZvzmVcDrM

and a song called Juicy Fruit from "Rubbing Doesn't Help" but it seems to be blocked in the UK on YouTube



Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> Medicine with the female lead singer?
.
> They were indeed underrated in sonic terms at least. I think an appearance on the soundtrack to "The Crow" was kind of their high point in terms of exposure!

Interesting - hadn't come across them before despite an interest in shoe gaze and similar.
Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> Got an urge to post some post-One-Dove Dot

> From first solo album


Check out the middle section of this track from the unreleased second One Dove album... https://soundcloud.com/one-dove/waltzbaby
Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:

> I've got a couple of CDs which I really like by a Scottish folk bad, "Afterhours", cannot find damn thing on the m on the net.

I'm guessing this is them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx0vRcpo6qg
Seem to be a few Youtube vids from this gig, nothing much else.
Chris the Tall - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Linoleum - one great album, then disappeared

The last minute of this track is a stupendous guitar frenzy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7rIGYt87Mw

And this is a band I hadn't heard of until they'd disbanded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOUAOAgThaw
pebbles - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Dogs Die in Hot Cars

a brief moment in the festival sun, then sunk without trace
this ones my favourite " I love you cause I have to " and also "pastimes and lifestyles" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpdMttDnDbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeywCfxYcas
Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> I think it's a bit of a shame that - at least on the CD - the production on Morning Dove White does now sound quite dated (I have an ongoing "in my head' project about listing my favourite 20 albums and I'd like to include this but soundwise it doesn't seem to have stood the test of time, whereas "bigger sound" records like Leftism and Music for the Jilted Generation, have endured). Actually most of Weatherall's stuff really sounds locked in its original period. I wonder if a remaster could beef it up a bit.

I know what you mean, but I find it dated in a good way, not like that horrible Phil Collins drum sound that's all over a lot of 'eighties stuff for example. It doesn't bother me too much.
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Chris the Tall:

> Linoleum - one great album, then disappeared

Heh, all this 90s indie stuff has reminded me of another lost band. Unlike my other suggestions I don't particularly think this band should have been bigger, but I'd have liked at least a third album from them.

Whistler. Kind of gentle indie with an interesting vocal from Kerry Shaw who had a gorgeous voice yet was almost "not exactly SINGING". I guess you could call it a laconic delivery.
The biting and sarcastic lyrics really worked well.
It was Ian Dench's band, he formerly of EMF, and quite a departure from that band. I believe Whistler disbanded because someone offered EMF a wad of cash to do some nostlagia tour !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EphOyvFjRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJ8Agofe4s
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

> Check out the middle section of this track from the unreleased second One Dove album... https://soundcloud.com/one-dove/waltzbaby

I'd do similar if I'd written something nice that got buried in such wrangles!
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Chris the Tall:

"Heh, all this 90s indie stuff has reminded me of another lost band."

And of course the truly lost Flinch, who didn't even manage to see their debut album released due to some record company bollocks (and possibly band friction).

Yes yes it's more female-fronted indie-schmindie but they had a bit of a bite to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLyQq5NtDFRZoqdGm_3s1kz4ATQHEQYmHi&index=20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWkNVoVywRs
krikoman - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
The The were a band I never understood why they didn't make it big, musically great, lyrical brilliant, with a little bit of politics thrown in for good measure. Still very listen-able today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgu-nQDSXnM

Stereo MCs always great, esp. The Fear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVeHiCA8s4
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Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> Heh, all this 90s indie stuff has reminded me of another lost band. Unlike my other suggestions I don't particularly think this band should have been bigger, but I'd have liked at least a third album from them.

> Whistler. Kind of gentle indie with an interesting vocal from Kerry Shaw who had a gorgeous voice yet was almost "not exactly SINGING". I guess you could call it a laconic delivery.



Rather nice. Talking of not exactly singing reminded me of Life Without Buildings - not to everyone's taste, and I'm not surprised they didn't last long, but I find this quite uniquely compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SL4_DsUlH8

Sue Tomkins is still performing - performance poetry/singing. If you thought that track was strange, try this:

https://www.vimeo.com/74618301

Her movement is oddly fascinating.
krikoman - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:


> Her movement is oddly fascinating.

She looks like a pissed Claudia Winkleman.
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

LWB are one of only two bands that I truly regret not taking the opportunity to see play live (although I take solace in the near-certainty that it might have been a bit crap on stage unless one were familiar with all the music)

The Leanover is an astonishing piece of music, I've still never heard anything quite like it - I know there is plenty of quirky and abstract stuff out there, but The Leanover still stands out. Their album is good; I never bought it at the time but got all 7" singles.

"Sorrow" on the album is wonderful.
Blue Straggler - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to krikoman:

I thought The The and Stereo MCs WERE big! Or did you mean "U2 big"?
Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to krikoman:
"She looks like a pissed Claudia Winkleman."

I'd pay to watch Strictly if Sue Tompkins presented it!
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Bob Kemp - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

She's still around - Die so Fluid, who I think are still going
Chris the Tall - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Hadn't heard of either band, but having followed a few links I prefer the stuff she did in Feline such as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeef702Kk4I

Interesting to see how she has changed over the years, from Britpop in Flinch to Goth in Die so Fluid, and Feline seems to be a nice point on the journey !
Duncan Bourne - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

How'bout Satanic prog rock band Black Widow! Made Black Sabbath look like the Bay City Rollers but found little success with their Jolly mix of Dennis Wheatley/Aliester Crowley Occultism funny that. But One of my fav bands in my tortured youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEmALYV72sc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dtpvowQa5E
Big Ger - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

> I'm guessing this is them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx0vRcpo6qg

> Seem to be a few Youtube vids from this gig, nothing much else.

Them's the bunnies!
Big Ger - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

> Her movement is oddly fascinating.

Just plain odd.

krikoman - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> I thought The The and Stereo MCs WERE big! Or did you mean "U2 big"?

I suppose The The were there sort of, I always thought they were just under the bar, but looking at album sales they made 2nd and 4th positions. I might have been wrong Heavens above!!
Stuart en Écosse - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to krikoman:

The The are doing a couple of gigs in London next year. I'm going.
krikoman - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:

> The The are doing a couple of gigs in London next year. I'm going.

I might try and get there myself, thanks for the info.
tomrainbow - on 05 Dec 2017
malky_c - on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

Nice one - Bardo Pond have always just been a name to me, but have just enjoyed a load of their stuff this evening. This thread is great!
pasbury on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to tomrainbow:

Excellent blog but the Go- betweens and burning spear are not ‘lost’ are they?
pasbury on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to malky_c:

There is so much Bardo Pond music to absorb - I reckon i’m about 10% in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNJbM83L0 Back Porch is one of my favourites; sloppy, dirty blues.
pasbury on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

I’d like to make a case for King of the Slums. They had a uniquely weird, northern sound and sensibility. The only comparison is with The Fall.
Their song titles were great too; The Pennine Spitter, Venerate Me Utterly, Ardent Swains.

Then there’s the Dustdevils.......
pasbury on 05 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> The Leanover is an astonishing piece of music, I've still never heard anything quite like it - I know there is plenty of quirky and abstract stuff out there, but The Leanover still stands out. Their album is good; I never bought it at the time but got all 7" singles

Wow, love this song

Blue Straggler - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Chris the Tall:

Plus several years touring as session bassist for Sporty Spice!
Blue Straggler - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> Excellent blog but the Go- betweens and burning spear are not ‘lost’ are they?

Indeed
Blue Straggler - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Chris the Tall:
I’ll have to check out Feline. I have done so before and found it a bit “meh” but I was surely biased toward what I’d first heard and experienced in Flinch (saw them do a rare acoustic gig at the Borderline in London, with the much more obscure and possibly more “interesting” Hopper in support...also think I saw Flinch with Marion, Goya Dress and Strangelove at Dublin Castle, or did I only have the 7” EP from that....)
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malky_c - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:
Hopper are another good candidate for this thread - their 'English and French' album stands the test of time, just about.
Blue Straggler - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to malky_c:

Great ! I never heard them on record, they were just a band that was around and I saw them a couple of times and heard them on the radio and liked them...but not enough to spend my meagre student income on them I will investigate.
Bulls Crack - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Good thread: bringing together in one place all those bands that are routinely dropped into 'best band ever' type threads by obscurantists ;-)
alan moore - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to malky_c:

> Hopper are another good candidate for this thread -

Thought Baby Oil was outstanding!

PeterM - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply :

The Nymphs
The God Machine
Swervedriver (already mentioned)

Boogs on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Good thread with some great music posted . This week I are mostly been listening to Le Sud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erVFnfz9HGg by Nino Ferrer & Radiah

In particular the tracks Hot Toddy & Looking for you , I can just imagine cruising down to Biarritz in the 450 SL late summer with a surfboard stuffed in the back , groovy man . . very groovy .
Bob Kemp - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bulls Crack:

> Good thread: bringing together in one place all those bands that are routinely dropped into 'best band ever' type threads by obscurantists ;-)

I’ve been really impressed by the sheer range of bands that have emerged. I’m going to be following up stuff for months! We are privileged to be living at a time when this is so easy to do. Pre-internet a lost band had every chance of staying lost.
Blue Straggler - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
This is a fine example of a thread that is just working and sticking to the OP.
So often these turn into competitions about “most obscure band” and/or people just listing some favourite bands even if they were they never all that lost (here, The The has pretty much been the only such example and the person “apologised” for that one )
Blue Straggler - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to PeterM:

> In reply :



> The God Machine

That was a premature death of the main guy (or a key member) wasn’t it


Bob Kemp - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Big Ger:
> Just plain odd.

I tried to find some live footage of Life Without Buildings but there doesn’t seem to be anything. I wondered if she ‘danced’ the same way with the band.
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Bob Kemp - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> That was a premature death of the main guy (or a key member) wasn’t it

That seems to be a common reason for bands becoming lost. I was thinking about Sparklehorse when I saw this post (wondering if they were really a ‘lost’ band), and there’s plenty more like that. A high-risk occupation it seems.

The other main reason seems to be contractual hassles and music business stuff. It’s funny to think that Bruce Springsteen might have been a lost act for that reason.
PeterM - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:
Yes, the bassist if I remember correctly.

And I almost forgot about St. Johnny..
http://www.punchnels.com/2011/07/27/bet-you-dont-know-this-one/
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pasbury on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> This is a fine example of a thread that is just working and sticking to the OP.

> So often these turn into competitions about “most obscure band” and/or people just listing some favourite bands even if they were they never all that lost (here, The The has pretty much been the only such example and the person “apologised” for that one )

Agreed, I think if the brief includes 'I really like this band' then you remove a lot of the obscurantist willy waving.
pasbury on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to PeterM:

> In reply :

> The God Machine

Well you've hit the mother lode there! Tragically curtailed musical endeavour due to the death of Jimmy Fernandez.
The guitarist/singer Robin Proper-Sheppard formed other bands after (Sophia and The May Queens) which I must check out.
julesmckim - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Sunhouse - Something for the Weekend. Such a great album...shame there weren't more.
Remy Zero - Villa Elaine. Think they did another album, but again unrealised potential...
keith-ratcliffe on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
For Peel fans everywhere - Principal Edwards Magic Theatre. Had an album on vinyl & wore it out.
Stuart en Écosse - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:
> Gyrate by Pylon.

I only discovered Pylon because of REM's brilliant cover of Crazy.

One of my enduring favourite bands who despite being around at the right time and place (late 80s US noise) never got the exposure of the likes of Hüsker Dü and Big Black, yet I think they are as good: Bitch Magnet.
Most or all of their stuff is on YouTube or Spotify. No links as I'm on my phone.

For vaguely related obscure/forgotten 80s alternative/Peel Show material, try Mission of Burma, Polvo and The Iowa Beef Experience who are a bit like the Butthole Surfers minus the laughs.
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malky_c - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Couple more not overly obscure bands that seem to have disappeared without a trace:
A.C. Acoustics - 'Understanding Music ' is probably my favourite, but pretty much everything is good apart from their patchy first mini-album.

Seafood - toss up between 'When do we start fighting' and 'As the Cry Flows', but again most of their stuff is good.

There's a theme here - you can tell when a band are on their way down when they sign a deal with Cooking Vinyl.
pasbury on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Stuart en Écosse:

A second vote for Bitch Magnet:

Cantaloupe from their first ep is such a harsh sounding track.

And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyjJTZIF72I Americruiser is quite magnificent.
Bob Kemp - on 06 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

> I'd do similar if I'd written something nice that got buried in such wrangles!

Absolutely. Why not?
Bob Kemp - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to keith-ratcliffe:

> For Peel fans everywhere - Principal Edwards Magic Theatre. Had an album on vinyl & wore it out.

Good to see a '60s lost band. Very of its time...
Bob Kemp - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Also going back a bit further, a couple of bands that greatly impressed me as a youth...

Spirit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xSbsKHfMFE - I had that as a 45. Couldn't afford the album... Their later album, 'The Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus' was probably their best. Had brilliant photos by Ira Cohen on the sleeve which were arguably one of the best representations of the acid experience around.

United States of America - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jwi78dYK2o
They're not quite so lost now, in the sense that they seem to have been quite influential on a few bands. Thinking about Stereolab and Broadcast in particular. At the time they seemed very much ahead of their time and out of the mainstream.
Baron Weasel - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

> If you were into them and Man you might remember Mighty Baby, who were also purveyors of that psych jam band kind of thing. Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead.


As a Deadhead I shall give Mighty Baby some airtime, thanks for the link.

Here's a bit of the Grateful Dead for those who have never heard them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtrz_fvmoc
Baron Weasel - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

And a bit of Jerry Garcia with David Grisman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFX5L1Ithuc
felt - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

With Spirit and the Dead we're getting well into the mainstream.

Here are Silver Apples, the American Can if you will:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzBlQAqILK0
pasbury on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
I love that spirit album, but you're stretching the 'forgotten' brief

United states of America sound interesting...

My next suggestion seems to have been forgotten; the eponymous first Masters of Reality album from 1989.

They have made other records since but that first one is amazing - one of those fully formed bits of genius that pop up out of the blue from time to time. Chris Goss is the main man and associated with QOTSA - gives a good indicator of the masters of Reality sound.
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OMR - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Talking about John Peel and '60s (and into the '70s) lost bands, what about Medicine Head. Low key but some magic music in their day. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+medicine+head&&view=detail&mid=BF62E3A7DDE5...
pasbury on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to OMR:

> Talking about John Peel and '60s (and into the '70s) lost bands, what about Medicine Head.

On his own label; Dandelion Records. Home to many obscure artists.
Bob Kemp - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> I love that spirit album, but you're stretching the 'forgotten' brief

I think they were pretty much lost until that ‘Stairway’ court case last year. Most of my friends were saying ‘Who?’ But one person’s ‘lost’ is another person’s ‘Been listening to them for years’!

> United states of America sound interesting...

> My next suggestion seems to have been forgotten; the eponymous first Masters of Reality album from 1989.

Remember the name -checking them out...

tomrainbow - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

> Excellent blog but the Go- betweens and burning spear are not ‘lost’ are they?

Thanks. I thought they would qualify but I guess it's all quite subjective...

Anyway, you got me thinking...perhaps these are a little more 'lost':

Peel favourites: https://devonrecordclub.com/2013/05/27/the-only-ones-the-only-ones-round-50-toms-selection/

Modern day doom synth:https: https://devonrecordclub.com/2012/12/05/john-maus-we-must-become-the-pitiless-censors-of-ourselves-ro...

Eithipian jazz anyone?: https://devonrecordclub.com/2012/07/18/mulatu-askatke-the-story-of-ethio-jazz-1965-1975-round-32-tom...

REM's forebears with added pop: https://devonrecordclub.com/2015/03/22/the-dbs-stands-for-decimals-round-79-toms-selection/

Probably my favourite album of 2016: https://devonrecordclub.com/2017/09/03/king-we-are-king-round-102-toms-selection/

The sound of the Rockies : https://devonrecordclub.com/2016/09/02/robbie-basho-visions-of-the-country-round-94-toms-selection/

Hope these are obscure enough to qualify...
pasbury on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to tomrainbow:

That'll do nicely.

I'll be checking out the dBs.
mav - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to malky_c:

> A new version of 'Meanwhile Gardens' with Terry Bickers' vocals added back on was released a couple of years back. It was unexpectedly brilliant.

really? I missed that. I had a copy of Meanwhile Gardens on tape (via a mate who was in a band whose album Levitation's drummer produced), which has obviously been misplaced long ago. I'll have to have a look. Any idea where I'll find it?
malky_c - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to mav:

It must be on YouTube somewhere - the original version certainly is. New version is on Spotify if you use that.
OMR - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

Such as Tractor. A gem of a heavy album which was, to be fair, remembered enough to be reissued in the late '70s, but on a small label only and soon to disappear again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj2DC5cwlLQ
Toccata on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
Loved MWD but the One Dove cover of Jolene (B side of one of the singles) is off the planet good.
Blue Straggler - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Toccata:

Interesting. I really really wanted to love it at the time (see earlier post about having been a major fan) but I had to admit that it just didn't click with me, and this has not changed with the passage of time. I shall revisit it again though, it's been a while since I heard it.
Bob Kemp - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Toccata:

> Loved MWD but the One Dove cover of Jolene (B side of one of the singles) is off the planet good.

Yeah, I found that on the Soundcloud page I linked to earlier. A really nice surprise!
Blue Straggler - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Risking this one not really being THAT obscure/lost (not that it's an obscurity competition!), and they had a decent enough run, but I always thought that Rilo Kiley had all the ingredients to become genuinely huge - like headlining yer Brixton Academy size venues. OP does say "....never quite achieved the fame and status that they deserved? "
Perfectly accessible well crafted indie-pop, a superb three-album run, very good live, very photogenic (not just Jenny but also Blake - plus the drummer was really cool...in fact the whole band pulled off the "effortless cool" thing really naturally and well), very likeable.

It just never quite happened.
I heard Mark Radcliffe on the radio interviewing Jenny about this (well, not an interview but just the between-songs chit chat when she was a session guest promoting one of her solo records) and they both acknowledged that the "More Adventurous" album (the third main album; geeks would call it the fourth) was meant to catapult them to mainstream stardom, but Jenny said she was kind of glad it didn't happen because it would have meant 2 years of touring those songs. An interesting point.

Very hard to pick out a single representative song as there is so much good material in their catalogue (the fourth album was rather disappointing admittedly, but then a few years ago they released an album of deleted songs, most of which were top notch!)

I'll go with this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoa5uIsWRtw
Blue Straggler - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Some more One Dove rarities here but seems scrappy sound quality (and "Swampman's Revenge" seems like a solo instrumental just dicking about on a Bontempi! )

http://www.onedove.net/media/index.html

And maybe you can pester the second poster on this thread from 7 years ago!
http://forum.popjustice.com/threads/one-dove-dot-allison.17115/
Big Ger - on 07 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:
> Also going back a bit further, a couple of bands that greatly impressed me as a youth...

> Spirit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xSbsKHfMFE - I had that as a 45. Couldn't afford the album... Their later album, 'The Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus' was probably their best. Had brilliant photos by Ira Cohen on the sleeve which were arguably one of the best representations of the acid experience around.

If you're looking at bands which have passed, rather than been lost;

Love; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1L11Y0I5E0

I've had this on vinyl, cassette, CD, and now MP3. A classic, timeless album, never gets old, never not worth listening too.

When I saw The Damned earlier this year, they did their version of "alone again or", lovely stuff.
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pasbury on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yH3bJm92RY

A little fabulosity from th’ faith healers
L 8A machine elf - on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Nik Turner's Sphinx were as mindblowing
as early Hawkwind when hey played live.I had a bootleg cassette tape of theirs and I don't know if it was Gili on vocals but it was excellent unfortunately I lost it at a party. If anyone can find it had tracks called On The Edge,Sonic Savages,Devas etc ,love Nik Turner,but you won't find them.
Blue Straggler - on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

Ah I believe I was at their final ever gig! But I didn't really know them (was probably there for a support band)

Someone in the crowd shouted a request for "Everything, All At Once, Forever" and I didn't know it was a song, I thought he was just being "funny" what with it being the final gig so he wanted to make sure they played everything

I liked Tom's next band Quickspace Supersport (soon changed to just Quickspace, presumably for legal reasons). A great song called "Do It My Own Way" which wasn't a million miles from the Life Without Buildings vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHY0yfvtYRQ
aln - on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Ooh I like that. Slits, Raincoats kinda feel
edwardwoodward - on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

The Dancing Did - And Did Those Feet.
pasbury on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Do you remember Curve? They were going to be the next big thing for about 15 minutes in 1991.

They were quite charismatic with a brand of power pop that has been copied extensively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqtxTl4m6l4
Big Ger - on 08 Dec 2017
In reply to pasbury:

Saw them live in Bristol back in the day, goth tinged pop, heavily reliant on the attractions of their singer.

Not bad for all that.
Big Ger - on 09 Dec 2017
In reply to Bob Kemp:

Budgie never had the recognition they deserved.
Timmd on 13:32 Sat
In reply to 8A machine elf:
Doing some googling seems to suggest that Nik Turner Space Ritual might be what you need to be looking for? I tried googling for Sphinx, and nothing came up, but Nik Turner's Space Ritual produced results. It might have to become a little bit of a quest where you buy different recordings to recreate the track list you had?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=1366&bih=662&ei=EuUrWuCsII_8kwXR9qrQBQ&q=nik+turner+Space+Ritual...
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malk - on 14:23 Sat
In reply to Big Ger:

> Budgie never had the recognition they deserved.

was going to post their first album that i only recently heard on u tube but hardly a lost band-have influenced many heavy-rock/metal bands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugzwH0iMxmc

some late sixties pop from the band ELO could have been;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rJDiPvJTwE


Timmd on 14:33 Sat
In reply to 8A machine elf:
Being 'a completest', it seems like (potentially expensive) fun, to have to buy different recordings...
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no_more_scotch_eggs - on 15:24 Sat
In reply to pasbury:

> Do you remember Curve? They were going to be the next big thing for about 15 minutes in 1991

Yes- was going to suggest them myself. Saw them a couple of times, once at the QM Union in Glasgow. Never quite followed up the early stuff, then overtaken by events (britpop)- but rediscovered them recently on Apple Music, their good stuff was pretty good...

L 8A machine elf - on 11:19 Sun
In reply to Timmd:

Thanks for that Tim I seen Space Ritual twice once near Birmingham and once at the Wickerman festival they were good but they didn't do any of the Sphinx tracks I loved.
felt - on 11:47 Sun
In reply to malk:

Nice (the second one).

Here's the Tornadoes, with an incredibly catchy number and some great camp. "See you down the Dilly!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6K6gxSKld8
Pursued by a bear - on 13:35 Sun
In reply to 8A machine elf:

> Nik Turner's Sphinx were as mindblowing

I have an album of theirs, Xitintoday (mint condition vinyl, with the booklet insert too). It's completely bonkers, very Glastonbury scene late seventies stuff complete with things recorded inside the Great Pyramid. Good? No, but that's not the point.

On a proggy scene, can I add Eloy? They turned out a lot of rubbish, essentially copying other bands like Deep Purple, Floyd, Yes and so forth, but they eventually got their act together for a couple of albums in the early eighties, Planets and Time To Turn. Based around a concept that is frankly rubbish and with some vocals that can only be described as an acquired taste, they nevertheless have some terrific prog tunes on them.

T.

Blue Straggler - on 13:46 Sun
In reply to pasbury:
As others have said, "lost" is very subjective of course, but for me, Curve were pretty big. John Peel favourites, the "go to" band for adolescent males who didn't want to go full Goth and who needed someone to fancy
They played fairly big venues around 1992 and frankly should have sued Garbage in 1995 for stealing their entire sound Funnily enough, that electro-Goth sound always did seem to bring better success to American bands (see - aforementioned Medicine, and of course Nine Inch Nails)
But it might be fair to say that Curve never managed one solid consistent album - seemed more like a band for 12" EPs.

I read an interview with Toni and Dean about 10 years ago where they said they kind of realised that they were not cut out to be a band but, rather, they were very good sonic engineers.

No Escape from Heaven was my favourite.

I did see them - somewhat "after the fact", in 1996. Coincidentally Garbage were playing in a venue 3 times larger on the other side of town on the same night.
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felt - on 13:47 Sun
In reply to Pursued by a bear:

> some vocals that can only be described as an acquired taste

A perennial prog problem, from Anderson to Lee.
Blue Straggler - on 16:00 Sun
I hasten to add, I was never that big into Curve myself, but they did seem to loom quite large at the time.

L 8A machine elf - on 19:52 Sun
In reply to Pursued by a bear:

Yes I heard that album once and that was enough but the live material I am referencing was completely different.

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