In reply to GarethSL:
> This. This is a nightmare if you're trying to log routes etc.
Indeed, a good rule of thumb is that unless the approach (with skis) requires less than 2 full days and the grade is less than WI5... It's prolly been climbed as a casual afternoon stroll by a local farmer, that occasionally likes to climb.
> But, this ethic is a unique and wonderful (maybe even essential) part of the Norwegian outdoor culture and really does add a lot of excitement when exploring 'new' (read lesser travelled, lesser advertised or whatever) areas. They are fantastic at preserving the feeling of adventure, especially when you can go to amazing valleys, full of world class ice routes and be completely alone all day.
Yes, going back to the roots, so to speak... more in the line of old "pre-historic" route descriptions of mountaineering stuff in Lyngen (there is a couple of such "guidebooks" from the 80s or so). The general description is start from East and finish at the top, by an obvious route... what ever that may be
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