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ARTICLE: The Downfall Hype

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 UKC Articles 30 Mar 2018
The Kinder Downfall in rare winter nick., 4 kbOnce in a blue moon Kinder Downfall freezes over and turns into the Peak District's premier ice climbing venue. The social media hype was incredible, so Rory Southworth decided to check it out and see if it was as good as everyone said it was.

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 TobyA 30 Mar 2018
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What day of the week did you do it on Rory? We did it on Wednesday, the first day when snow had really hit Sheffield/the Peak although the Downfall had been climbed from the Sunday. We walked in the same way you did, on 'Beast from East Wednesday' (the first snow day at the school where I work), that was without a doubt the crux. I reckoned it was about the worst conditions I've been out in, in about 30 years of hill walking and mountaineering. Worse than I've seen in the Norwegian arctic in late winter and perhaps only equalled by a crawl off Aonoch Beag in the mid 90s, in a storm. The climbing was a piece of piss compared to the walk in!  

 winhill 30 Mar 2018
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> Once in a blue moon...

Coincidentally the next blue moon is just tomorrow, 31/03/2018, the one before that 31/01/2018, only 2 months ago. But then the next is 2020.

Those are calendar blue moons, seasonal blue moons are every 2.5 years or so, next is May 2019.

Just saying.

 aln 31 Mar 2018
In reply to UKC Articles:

The hype was justified? I know as much now about Kinder downfall as I did before I read those few paragraphs. 

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 Kemics 31 Mar 2018
In reply to aln:

Yeah would have been nice to have a bit more than 50/60 words dedicated to the actual climbing? 

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 TobyA 31 Mar 2018
In reply to Kemics:

> Yeah would have been nice to have a bit more than 50/60 words dedicated to the actual climbing? 

Ok. Climb up the right corner, decently steep but it's a corner so you can bridge. Maybe tech 4 but probably only 10 mtrs or so. Block belay. Traverse across the ledge (mainly walking), and climb some steep stuff on the left on to the top. This is only a few metres but when we did it I reckon means as a whole the route couldn't be only II/III.

 

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 Simon Caldwell 03 Apr 2018
In reply to UKC Articles:

Once in a blue moon? It forms most winters doesn't it?

 mrphilipoldham 03 Apr 2018
In reply to Simon Caldwell:

No.. first time in about four years, I think!

 mrphilipoldham 03 Apr 2018
In reply to Simon Caldwell:

Exactly, so this winter, only just in during 2015 and then not until 2013 again for another decent build up. 17/18 winter has seen exceptional conditions, December thru March.. so quite the rarity, regardless.

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 Simon Caldwell 03 Apr 2018
In reply to mrphilipoldham:

Or in other words, it's formed in 6 out of the last 10 winters ;-p

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 mrphilipoldham 03 Apr 2018
In reply to Simon Caldwell:

Like I said, first time in about four years.. aside the fleeting conditions in 2015. Agreed though, hardly 'blue moon' stuff

 rocksol 03 Apr 2018
In reply to UKC Articles:

Much better but really only in a blue moon Priestcliff icicle and Waterfall s wallet

 climber34neil 03 Apr 2018
In reply to rocksol:

And swallet was very good, particularly the right wall this year!

In reply to climber34neil:

Pictures?

 climber34neil 04 Apr 2018
In reply to Gordon Stainforth:

I suspect this was the last day it was possible to climb, I remember doing it in 2002 and also looking at the photos on the swallet page on ukc it looks like this year was perhaps the only time in recent years that the icicles have touched down, I guess a few days earlier it would have been better as well

 Toerag 04 Apr 2018
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Did any other 'rare' icefalls form this year? Cantonteign falls?

 climber34neil 04 Apr 2018
In reply to Toerag:

Cautly spout did

 Simon Caldwell 05 Apr 2018
In reply to Toerag:

Goredale Scar

various in the Lakes, eg Whorneyside Force (we wimped out due to the amount of water behind it, but others were braver!), Isaac Gill, Browney Gill, etc

 Sean Kelly 08 Apr 2018
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You should have seen it in '79 when it lasted for weeks!

 climber34neil 08 Apr 2018
In reply to Sean Kelly:

Do you have any photos of it?


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