In reply to mike kann:
Joking aside I think for the huge majority of folks climbing now, doing something like the Phillip Flamm, or any other route on the Civetta, is so beyond their horizon that at best it would be esoteric.
Many would think it an odd name for a boulder problem.....
BITD, it would feature in magazines, was written up as a right of passage in bios from the 60/70s, and quite right. There was the standard Dollies tick list, The Pilastro, The Comici, The Cassins,
The Yellow Edge, etc, pretty much up at the top was the PF. It had real - deserved kudos.
It's a funny thing that while standards have nominally gone up, British ascents of something like this have probably gone down, which is a real shame. But, I guess that's just a reflection of climbing now. Who knows it may change..........
It would be a stunning trip.
Steve