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NEWS: Adam Ondra flashes Lexicon, E11 7a

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 UKC News 19 May 2025

The ascent is the hardest trad flash of all time, and took place with no prior inspection of the holds.

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 Baron Weasel 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

He needs just needs to flash the hardest route in the lakes now...

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 treesrockice 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

GOAT

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 ChrisW95 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

So impressive! Very cool of Neil to provide Adam with all the gear beta and chalk the line etc

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 Climber_Bill 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Wow, amazing.

 Shani 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

> "...speed-rappelled down along Lexicon, facing the lake so I would not get any view of holds at all'."

Incredible!

It is not just that Ondra excels in pretty much every area of climbing at a physical level, but also that he embraces the most bonkers parts of its history, traditions & ethics.

 climber34neil 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Amazing! But he still turned down the offer of a tooling session, too scared of the dark side ??

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 sfletch 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Abseiled down it but I promise I didn’t look at the holds… We’ve all done those types of ‘flashes’. He’d fit in well with the UKC logbook clientele. 

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 TobyA 19 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Abseiled down facing the lake! Love it!

I shook Adam's hand last Tuesday night, and here it was - me thinking that the power transfer had gone my way, and that's why along with a mini power scream (I am British after all) I managed to cling on and not embarrassingly fall off a ridiculously hard for 5a, 5a route at Harpur Hill yesterday. 😆 But could it have been actually some of my multi decade trad experience was flowing the other way, ready for the GOAT to go and goat on Pavey Ark? ;⁠-⁠)

Fantastic effort. Chapeau! Adam comes over as such a normal and nice bloke in person too. What a star. 

 Stoney Boy 19 May 2025
In reply to climber34neil:

That's sounds a bit rude....

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 wbo2 19 May 2025
In reply to climber34neil:

He's said before hei doesn't much like aid climbing,  manufactured routes or ice so you've a few hurdles to clear

 Shani 19 May 2025
In reply to wbo2:

> He's said before hei doesn't much like aid climbing,  manufactured routes or ice so you've a few hurdles to clear

I can't imagine "cave juices" are high up on his list, either!

 columk1 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Get the man on Hard Cheese!

 climber34neil 20 May 2025
In reply to Shani:

But rebranded as rock champagne,  that might work 

 Michael Gordon 20 May 2025
In reply to sfletch:

> Abseiled down it but I promise I didn’t look at the holds… We’ve all done those types of ‘flashes’. He’d fit in well with the UKC logbook clientele. 

So you've never abbed in for a route, pointedly looking away from the line, and taken the onsight?

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 Michael Gordon 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Excellent stuff. Ondra a class act as always.

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 DizzyVizion 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

That's awesome! 

Rhapsody next maybe? 

 Iloverealrock 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

this guy was the goat before this but now hes the goat 2.0

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 Andy Hardy 20 May 2025
In reply to sfletch:

> Abseiled down it but I promise I didn’t look at the holds… We’ve all done those types of ‘flashes’. He’d fit in well with the UKC logbook clientele. 

If you're going to make sarky comments about other people's logbooks, at least make your logbook public.

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 Geordie 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

An incredible achievement. However although it may be one of the hardest trad routes in the world its not the hardest trad route in The Lakes or even the hardest trad route on Pavey !!!

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 Mike Stretford 20 May 2025
In reply to Geordie:

What is the hardest trad route at Pavey?

 Bulls Crack 20 May 2025
In reply to Mike Stretford:

I can only think he means Jacks Rake

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 Baron Weasel 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Just been WhatsApp'd the video and he makes it look waaay too easy!

 GDes 20 May 2025
In reply to Mike Stretford:

Maybe Craig Mathesons hard cheese, which I think is just over the back of pavey? 

 djwilse 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Fantastic effort. Love the camaraderie of the Lakes team helping him out. What is the black box by his right foot in the photo showing the gear nest - I assume a remote camera?

 lepbe 20 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

is adam wearing a petzl scirroco with a mammut logo on it?

 Arms Cliff 20 May 2025
In reply to djwilse:

> What is the black box by his right foot in the photo showing the gear nest - I assume a remote camera?

looks like a kneepad he’s taken off maybe?

 djwilse 20 May 2025
In reply to Arms Cliff:

Maybe but seems a strange route to have one on? It looks like it is taped on (but could be velcro straps). I also wondered if it could be padding to protect from hitting the small ledge? 

 aln 20 May 2025
In reply to sfletch:

If I abbed down Lexicon, while having  a look at the holds, then climbed it in a oner, I'd take the flash and be really fekn chuffed with myself.

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 Misha 21 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

So Pearson was right. What he said makes sense of course.

“At the time, Pearson also said 'I think someone who's really strong could flash it without any sort of pre-inspection. It's still totally possible. If you've got a 9a flash level and you're trying to flash 8b+, you've got tons of margin for taking the holds wrong'.”

Not to diminish Adam's achievement, but this is a bit like someone being able to flash 7a sport and then flashing 6b+ trad (E3). Admittedly I’m guessing here that the relative difficulty of 9a vs 8b+ is about the same as 7a vs 6b+ but the underlying principle is the same in any case - it’s just not that hard. The margin is significant, particularly in the context of a flash where you don’t need as much margin as on an onsight.

It’s a shame there isn’t more gear, otherwise it would be a reasonable onsight or ground up proposition.

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 Dangerous Dave 21 May 2025
In reply to Misha:

> Not to diminish Adam's achievement, but this is a bit like someone being able to flash 7a sport and then flashing 6b+ trad (E3).

I think flashing 7a is probably easier than flashing E3, but that's a whole other debate.

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 James Malloch 21 May 2025
In reply to djwilse:

On Dave MacLeod’s video he leaves a knee pad at the same point. I guess there must be a knee bar lower down and you can take the pad off where the gear is.

 jezb1 21 May 2025
In reply to lepbe:

> is adam wearing a petzl scirroco with a mammut logo on it?

It’s not a Scirocco, probably an unreleased new Mammut one.

 flaneur 21 May 2025
In reply to Misha:

A well protected 6b+ would be E3 as you say but one with a potential 70' ledge fall off the crux would be at least E5. If 9a vs 8b+ is indeed similar to 7a vs 6b+ it's like someone who can occasionally onsight 7a (thousands in the UK) attempting a very runout and potentially dangerous E5 with good beta but without practicing the moves (uncommon I'd suggest).

An extremely impressive ascent.

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 djwilse 21 May 2025
In reply to James Malloch:

Thanks- it's obvious in Dave Macs video. I had convinced myself it was more box shaped.

 Michael Gordon 21 May 2025
In reply to flaneur:

That's a really good analogy from the punter's perspective. The fact that Ondra took so much care in his preparation leading up to it, and his comments afterwards, shows he was treating it as a big deal.

 Alun 21 May 2025
In reply to flaneur:

I agree, the better analogy would be a '7a-flash' sport climber flashing a run-out and sketchy E5 with relatively easy moves. Which, as you suggest, would already be a respectable achievement.

Either way, massive kudos to Adam not only for his obvious GOAT status, but also for having the motivation and interest to choose to come and climb scary mountain trad routes in the UK. 

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 James Malloch 21 May 2025
In reply to djwilse:

> Thanks- it's obvious in Dave Macs video. I had convinced myself it was more box shaped.

Ondra has been putting some boxes with Leica Cameras in them on routes as part of some collaboration/marketing thing. There was one left on an E1 in the peak last week.

When you mentioned a black box I wondered if he'd done a massive flex and carried one up and put it on an E11 for someone to find!

 ebdon 21 May 2025
In reply to flaneur:

As someone who thereabouts fits that profile I would agree. I actually nearly attempted onsighting E5 last year but managed to snap my arm in half first whilst practicing sketchy stuff in preperation. Make of that what you will! 

So whilst this perhaps might not be as mind blowing as ,say,  Hamish Mcarthurs recent bouldering in a purely athletic sense (which trad rarely wins any points for) for trad commitment and in a UK historical context of these things it's pretty next level.

 Misha 21 May 2025
In reply to flaneur:

Physically and technically it wouldn’t be that hard. Mentally it would be taxing, which is why there aren’t many people doing that. Plus the fact that most sport climbers don’t have trad skills. Clearly Ondra has the rare combination of physical and technical skill, head game and trad skills (or at least sufficient trad skills for that route).

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 Misha 21 May 2025
In reply to ebdon:

Depends on the E5. A well protected E5 is going to be around 7a or harder, so someone who flashes 7a but also onsights well protected E5 is going to be impressive from a physical and technical point of view. Chances are, they could climb harder sport if they wanted to. This is quite different to Ondra on Lexicon, as he’s nowhere near his physical and technical level.

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 Darkinbad 21 May 2025
In reply to Misha:

Well, yes. But that is why the comparison was with a poorly protected E5. I think even Ondra would struggle to flash a well-protected E11.

 Spanish Jack 22 May 2025
In reply to Misha:

I wonder if James talked him into giving it a flash go, when they spent some time in france?

 wbo2 22 May 2025
In reply to Spanish Jack: Flash is his absolute favourite style so I doubt he too much persuasion.

 Spanish Jack 22 May 2025
In reply to wbo2:

Beautiful it happened.

 McHeath 23 May 2025
In reply to Spanish Jack:

This seems to have had a similar impact to Antoine le Menestrel’s solo of Revelations (8b) back in 1985; maybe not of the same historical importance, and it won’t have the revolutionary effect that that solo did on the British view of climbing ethics, but certainly just as impressive.

Antoine’s diary of his 1985 visit (“raining again!”):

https://www.ukclimbing.com/articles/features/antoine_le_menestrels_diary_so...

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 Brendan 26 May 2025
In reply to UKC News:

https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2016/08/the_path_514ar_trad_flash_by_alex_m...

I feel like this always gets overlooked. Megos flashed The Path back in 2016 which sounds like a similarly impressive achievement.  

 FactorXXX 22 Jun 2025
In reply to UKC News:

Video of the ascent:
youtube.com/watch?v=SAUyrDLG5xM&

 Wise 22 Jun 2025
In reply to FactorXXX:

Absolutely cracking video that

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In reply to FactorXXX:

Thanks for posting the link. Great video. 

 Michael Hood 23 Jun 2025
In reply to FactorXXX:

Great little film, thanks for the link 


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